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Det er ikke nemt at være 25 år. Bare se på fortælleren i NAIV.SUPER. Han har to venner, en god og en dårlig. Og så har han en bror, der en dag slår ham i kroket, hvilket for alvor får ham i gang med at tænke over selve meningen med livet.

Han opdager, at hverken han selv eller hans omgivelser er, som de burde være. Han fører lange lister over, hvad han har, og navnlig hvad
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Published 2008 by Gyldendal (first published 1996)
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Jan 11, 2009 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone. You have everything to gain and nothing to loose.
Shelves: favourites

I tried to send Erlend Loe himself a letter once.
I couldn't find his address so I tried his e-mail. I wrote him a long nice one with loads of questions, but the one he gives in the book is defunct and when I contacted his publisher they started asking questions.

I was too intimidated to make anything up.

I really wish I had. He seems like the sort of person that needs to be e-mailed.
Ahmad Sharabiani
Naive super, 2001, Erlend Loe
تاریخ نخستین خوانش: بیست و هفتم ماه آوریل سال 2014 م
عنوان: اَبَر ابله ؛ نویسنده: ارلند لو؛ مترجم: شقایق قندهاری؛ مشخصات نشر: تهران، ثالث، 1389، در 231 ص، شابک: 9789643806347؛ موضوع: داستانهای نروژی قرن 20 م
روزنگاشته های پسری 25 ساله است، شادی درون در خود نهفته دارد. بار نخست که بخوانید ابلهانه و ساده است اما دیگر بار که بخوانید روانشناسی آدمهاست. اگر زمان با شما یار بود بار سوم هم بخوانید و مدارا کنید بهتر. داستان با این جمله ها آغاز میشود: من دو دوست دارم، یک دوست خ
Milica Chotra
Aug 27, 2012 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This was a quick, easy and enjoyable read. (Maybe) I'll write a proper review later, but thought I could post the list I'd written last night, just in case Loe wants to see it :)

What used to excite me when I was little:

- animals, especially cats, birds and baby goats
- betting my life on everything - if this does/doesn't happen, I die; racing against buses - if I lose, I die
- broken toys and old things, small parts of broken things
- building blocks / construction toys
- buttons
- cardboard boxes
- c
Feb 27, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Ni malo naivna super knjiga :-D
Mar 27, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
çok tatlı. çok huzur verici.
ben yazarın ilk okuduğum romanı "doppler"den daha çok beğendim kesinlikle.
zamana kafayı takmış bir gencin kendini kötü hissettiği bir dönemle başlayan romanı yüzünüzde bir gülümsemeyle bitireceksiniz.
hayata, iyi insanlara, dostluğa, kardeşliğe ve sevgiye yeniden inanmanızı sağlayabilir :)
ve liste yapmayı sevenlere bire bir ^.^

kuzey'in basitliğinin, bu sade yaşam felsefesinin her sanat dalına bu kadar yansıması ne kadar muhteşem bir şey.
kitap hakkında agos'a yazdım:
Jurica Ranj
Jan 25, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: home-library
U početku sam bio malo zamišljen nad stilom kojim je pisana knjiga, jednostavnim i iskrenim, bez ukrašavanja i s mnogo listi i nabrajanja. Ali kako sam dalje čitao, shvatio sam da gutam tekst i kako mi se sviđa jednostavno i možda pomalo naivno razmišljanje glavnog junaka priče.

On je dobričina, iskren i pomalo izgubljen, fasciniran i prestrašen jer ne zna što mu budućnost donosi. Stoga odlučuje napraviti stanku i razmisliti malo o svemu. Na prvi pogled se čini kako gubi vrijeme razmišljajući o s
Anita Dalton
Of course, this is the sort of novel that could only happen in a relatively benign place like Norway where a grown man playing with a little boy doesn’t inspire the need in every passerby to call Chris Hansen, and to a person who has a brother with an empty apartment. The protagonist is the most earnest character an American like me can possibly hope to read. With so many novels so sickeningly drenched in irony, the protagonist in Naïve. Super is completely devoid of it. And because he is not se ...more
Kristilyn (Reading In Winter)

from my blog Reading In Winter

Naïve. Super is one of those books that you will want to treasure, after consuming it, but then feel like you can’t just keep it for yourself—you have to share it with people.

As soon as I finished reading Erlend Loe’s brilliant novel, I promptly breathed a sigh of satisfaction, packaged it up, and mailed it to someone I thought would appreciate it.

Seriously, I’m not even going to get into reviewing this book until you promise me you’re going to read it. Promise? OK.

Niloofar Masoomi
وقتی برای خوندن انتخابش کردم کمی تردید داشتم که شاید کتاب جالبی نباشه، اما به محض اینکه چند صفحهای ازش رو خوندم بسيار بهش علاقهمند شدم.
داستانی بسیار خوشخوان و روان، ساده و صادق. از اون داستانهایی نیست که به زور روش زندگی رو تعریف میکنن. برخلافِ عنوان کتاب خیلی هم عمیق هست.
بيشتر از همه انگیزشی بودن کتاب رو دوست داشتم که شخصیت اصلی بدون توجه به نظر ديگران به زندگی دلخواه خودش رسید و خیلی هم صادقانه رفتار میکرد.
Nelly Aghabekyan
Sep 28, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Simplicity's best and simply the easiest - and this book is an exact example for this. There's no need to try hard and make things more and more complicated when there's an easier way to solve the problems: just stay ignorant to them. Be childish. Ask simple questions which always have answers, and do not spend forces on finding answers to questions that don't even make sense really.

This book is naive. This is why it's super
Nov 19, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction
Prijala mi je. Bas mi je prijala...
Feb 28, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Rekomenduoju tiems, kuriems patiko knyga "Projektas Rožė"
Valio! Dar viena norvegų kalba perskaityta knyga, skirta suaugusiems. Jaučiuosi džiugiai ir netgi išdidžiai, staiga perėjusi nuo vaikiškų knygelių prie rimtesnių veikalų. Aišku, šią knygą pavadinti rimta gal ir ne visai teisinga. Bet jos nerasite vaikiškų knygų skyriuje, taigi dedu sau pliusą. Ir raginu visus, besimokančius norvegų kalbos, ją perskaityti. O jeigu norvegų kalba jums neaktuali, skaitykite lietuviškai. Knygą "Naivus. Super" 2004 metais išleido Vagos leidykla.
Truputėlis apie šią iro
Matthew Rhodes
Jul 09, 2012 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Naive Super is probably the most influential book I've read in terms of my own writing.

This is a brave book. Dialogue is just discarded for the most part. The unnamed narrator is almost anti-protagonist. He is a nice guy. There aren't many books purely about nice guys. There are, however, countless good works about nice guys battling against adversity. The interesting thing about Naive Super is that the adversity is the character's own doing. The adversity is his depression. Almost like a quarte
I've read this book many a time before, and it has yet to fail me. It's a simple book on the surface, but for me it's a way to climb out of a hole whenever existing gets to be a bit too much. It's not a magic cure, but it makes life tolerable again.
Beka Sukhitashvili
Apr 16, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: norwegian
ძალიან ვიხალისე, როდესაც ახლა, მეც 25 წლის ვარ და მეც, დაახლოებით იგივე პრობლემა მაწუხებს, რაც მთავარ გმირს.
პირველი რამდენიმე გვერდი რომ წავიკითხე, უცებ გავიფიქრე "ოი, ჩემნაირი ბიჭი წიგნში!". ეს პირველი შემთხვევაა როდესაც ჩემი ახლანდელი მდგომარეობა ბევრ რამეში ემთხვევა წიგნის გმირს და რაღაცნაირად უცნაური და უცხო იყო. ამიტომ ამიჩუყდა გული ცოტა :დ
აბა, წარმოიდგინეთ, 24 წლისას ან 26 წლისას რო წამეკითხა- სულ ყველაფერი სხვანაირად იქნებოდა.

ეხა მე გეტყვით რა აღმაფრთოვანებდა ბავშვობაში:

Nikola Jankovic
Nov 19, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: humour, sale, scandinavian
"Sit sam i pospan. I imam smešak na usnama." Citat pred kraj, koji opisuje moje trenutno stanje, a njegova druga rečenica i stanje za vreme druženja sa Luom. Ne radi se o humoru uz koji se smeješ na glas, već o idejama, strukturi rečenica i načina na koji prenosi misli...

Osim toga, ovaj kratak roman govori o krizi identiteta glavnog mladog lika. Traženje smisla u životu i svetu oko sebe, kao i traženju svoje uloge u svemu tome. Jednostavna filozofija (npr. "Pokloni su važni. Mali pokloni su čes
Znate onaj osećaj kada ste uplašeni za sebe i svoju budućnost, osećaj da ste na prekretnici, ali ne znate kuda dalje?
Ili ono kada ništa nema smisao i sigurni ste da morate nešto da menjate, ali ste ujedno i paralisani količinom besmisla i ne znate odakle bi ste krenete?
A šta kažete za situacije kada ste preplavljeni anksioznošću zbog svih stvari koje vas okružuju, a na koje apsolutno ne možete da utičete- brzina svetlosti i nebeskih tela, protok vremena, veličina Svemira, život Zemlje i ops
Tornike Kobaladze
“ყოველ ჩვენგანს უდგას ხოლმე მძიმე წუთები. დღეები, როცა უაზრობის შეგრძნება უჩუმრად გვეპარება და ცინიკურობასა და ირონიაში გვძირავს, როცა ვკარგავთ სიყვარულს და იმის რწმენას, რომ ყველაფერი კარგად იქნება”.

ასეა ეს.
Pinar Kumandas
Mar 29, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Erlend Loe'nin okuduğum ikinci kitabı oldu Naif. Süper. Tam da adına yakışır bir naiflikte olmuş kitap. Belki birçok okuyucuda 'eee yani' etkisi uyandırmıştır. Ama benim oldukça sıradan ve sıkıcı günümü gayet güzel kıldı. Bir kere ben bu yazara nedense kendimi çok yakın hissediyorum. Kitaptaki çocukla da keşke arkadaş olsaydık diye düşündüm. Günlük gibi bir şeydi ve keşke bitmeseydi. Uzay-zaman-evrenle ilgili fazlaca kafa yorduğum zamanlar aklıma geldi. Belki herkes hayatının bir döneminde tüm b ...more
M. Sarki
Sep 02, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 5-star-wonders

A refreshing look at a young man from Norway trying to make sense of his life and attempting to find meaning in it. Perhaps the narrator is a bit too serious or obsessive in his assessments over the purpose of his life. He thinks constantly about the question of time and space. His over-adjustment to this uncomfortable predicament is to simply throw a ball against a wall all night or repeatedly hammer wooden pegs into a board. And this might seem too juven
Paul ataua
Nov 12, 2016 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I was really looking forward to reading ‘Naïve. Super’. As I started reading, however, the word ‘quirky’ kept coming to mind, and then I realized I didn’t exactly know what quirky means, so I looked it up and saw it was “ unusual in an attractive and interesting way” . It was certainly unusual, quite off-beat, but I didn’t find it attractive or interesting. I was quite bored and just wanted it to end. This doesn’t mean it is bad. It just means it isn’t my kind of book.

Brendan Monroe
Things I like about this book:

- It's different. But in a nice way. Very quirky.
- Is the protagonist really dumb, really smart, or really, err, naïve? I'm still not entirely sure.
- The protagonist makes a lot of lists. He likes lists. I like reading them.
- The sentences are so short.
- The protagonist is uncertain about many things. So am I.
- It's funny. He gets overwhelmed a lot, so he buys a Brio hammer-and-peg to help. When he hammers he doesn't feel so overwhelmed.

This leads to a number of
Nazanin Banaei
Jun 20, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
تا اون نصفههاش واقعن به هیجانم اورده بود. با یک آدم عادی طرفیم که خیلی فکر میکنه. درونگراس و دنبال معنی میگرده و دانشگاهو ول کرده و حس میکنه جریان زندگی متوقف شده. فقط وقتی حس میکنه حالش بهتر میشه که چکش کاری میکنه. جمعیت زیاد و فکر آینده هم آشفتش میکنه. اما از نیمههای کتاب دیگه ریتم کتاب تند میشه و نویسنده میخواد ما رو با آشفتگیش همراه کنه و شاید نیمهی دوم زیاد چنگی به دلم نزد.

"چیز زیادی نمیخواهم. ولی میخواهم روبهراه باشم. میخواهم ساده زندگی کنم؛ پر از لحظههای خوب و سرشار از خوشی و لذت.
لیز معت
Ali Heidari
Jun 19, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
کلا من از کتابهایی که بدون فلسفهبافیهای آن چنانی امیدبخشند لذت میبرم و عجیب است که زیاد بهشان برنمیخورم؛ کتابهایی که روزنهی تازهای به روی زندگی باز میکنند و خواننده را با خودشان همراه میکنند. رمان اَبَر ابله، اثر اِرلند لو، نویسندهی نروژی، از این دسته است.
اولین جملههای کتاب تکلیف خواننده را روشن میکند که با چه شخصیتی قرار است روبهرو شود. میگوید: «من دو دوست دارم، یک دوست خوب و یک دوست بد. و البته برادرم هم هست. شاید او مثل من خونگرم و صمیمی نباشد، ولی خوب است»
داستان از این قرار است که پسر جوانی
Lily S.
Dec 26, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is my second novel from Loe and while it was pretty good I didn't like it as much as Lazy days.

The book examins the same topics as Lazy days; finding meaning. The theme was different though, instead of looking at it in the context of a middle aged couple it shifted focus to a young man in his twenties.

Our protagonist is a caricature of what we often seen in the 90's generation. Desperately looking for something to do which actually has a meaning yet unable to find anything that truly inte
Apr 21, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I just love Loe's style, his weird, but extremely relatable characters, his sense for little things and his lists. An easy, fun and excellent read. I have also learned a lot about time :).
Bu edebiyatın, daha doğrusu anlatının bu biçiminin severi çok ama ben onlardan birideğilim. Daha önce yazarın Doppler’ini de okumuş, benzer şeyleri o kitap için de hissetmiştim. İkinci şanslara inanırım ama iki kitabın başkarakterinin (yaşları farklı da olsa) düştükleri çıkmaz da bu denli benzeşince sadece motif değil anlatı da tekrarlanmış oluyor. Loe’yü bir kez daha okuyup okumayacağımdan emin değilim.
Apr 12, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"Dünyaya faydalı olmak için ne gerektiğini bilmiyorum. Karşılaştığım herkese gülümsemenin yeterli geleceğinden de pek emin değilim."

"Değişimi saniyeler, saatler ve yıllarla ölçmeye devam edebiliriz tabii, ancak laf olsun diye var olan zaman fikri tamamen boş."
Seyma Sengul
Jun 19, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Çok sade ve akıcı bir dille yazılmış, ismi gibi naif bir roman.
Nov 08, 2013 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2013
"تحمل بلاهت و حماقت هم برای من حدی دارد."
کتاب بیان دغدغه های نویسنده و روایت اوست از حالتی که بسیاری از ما در مواجهه با جامعه با آن روبه رو هستیم،یعنی فکر کردن درباره ی چیستی.
نویسنده اهل نروژ و جزو پیروان مکتب نئیویسم است. مکتبی که تا پیش از این کتاب اسمش را نشنیده بودم نوعی فارست گامپ مدرن ،نوعی فرار از واقعیت و تفاوت با جریان روال عادی جامعه.
مشکل راوی زیاد فکر کردن است، مشکلی در بخش های پایانی برادرش دایما برای حل آن به او تذکر می دهد. نئعی بی تفاوتی بدون غم و تمام روایت تلاش برای رفع این بی ت
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“A human being weighing 70 kilograms contains among other things:
-45 litres of water
-Enough chalk to whiten a chicken pen
-Enough phosphorus for 2,200 matches
-Enough fat to make approximately 70 bars of soap
-Enough iron to make a two inch nail
-Enough carbon for 9,000 pencil points
-A spoonful of magnesium
I weigh more than 70 kilograms.

And I remember a TV series called Cosmos. Carl Sagan would walk around on a set that was meant to look like space, speaking in large numbers. On one of the shows he sat in front of a tank full of all the substances human beings are made of. He stirred the tank with a stick wondering if he would be able to create life.
He didn’t succeed.
“We shall never meet, but there is something I want you to know. My time is not the same as your time. Our times are not the same. And do you know what that means? That means that time does not exist. Do you want me to repeat that? There is no time. There is a life and a death. There are people and animals. Our thoughts exist. And the world. The universe, too. But there is no time. You might as well take it easy. Do you feel better now? I feel better. This is going to work out. Have a nice day.” 57 likes
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