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فرزند پنجم (The Fifth Child #1)

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Doris Lessing's contemporary gothic horror story—centered on the birth of a baby who seems less than human—probes society's unwillingness to recognize its own brutality.

Harriet and David Lovatt, parents of four children, have created an idyll of domestic bliss in defiance of the social trends of late 1960s England. While around them crime and unrest surge, the Lovatts are
Paperback, 167 pages
Published 2008 by نشر ثالث (first published 1988)
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Sep 30, 2013 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Stela by: Carmen Irimia
It was the summer of 2013 that a friend of mine, who’s an English teacher, asked me how I would teach “The Fifth Child”. Since I didn’t know about the book or have it, she sent me a PDF copy and here I am, after an unsettling but fascinating reading, asking myself the same question: what key of lecture could I offer? Because it is, undoubtedly, worth reading. A little masterpiece about the fragility of happiness and the illusion of the security provided by family, as the author herself said in a ...more
Huda Yahya
الشعور القوي الذي غمرني هو
التعجب من نيل دوريس ليسينج نوبل

فالرواية أقل من عادية
ولم أشعر معها بأي ابداع تقريبا

ليست سيئة نعم
وربما للمؤلفة كتب أهم
ولكنني لست متحفزة للقراءة مججدا لها على الإطلاق

سيطر علي شعور ربما يبدو فكاهيا
شعرتُ بأنني طوال القراءة أجلس أمام شاشة تلفاز
وأشاهد فيلما تليفزيونيا مملا قليلا وقديم
وفيه الترجمة تظهر بالبنط العريض جدا كما هو حال الترجمات منذ عقد من الزمان

باختصار لا أرشحها لأحد
Jun 08, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Hey, ya know that ugly devil baby-in-arms in that one impressionable scene in "Passion of the Christ"? Yeah, well, he's here in the middle of this taut, mesmerizing novella, growing up and ripping his innocent family to shreds.

Well... he says HI.
May 02, 2008 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
This novel was disturbing on so many levels. It was supposed to have started out with this great couple who had all these wonderful family ideals, until the fifth child came along who was really tough to take (and basically a commentary on society's reaction to such a different child). However, I never saw the couple as having a great marriage. The only testament to any sort of greatness I guess would be their coupled desire to have a lot of children. Simply because their house was constantly fi ...more
Apr 04, 2013 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everybody knows
Recommended to Mariel by: everybody understands

She felt rejected by him. They had always loved to lie here feeling a new life, greeting it. She had waited four times for the first little flutters, easily mistaken but then certain; the sensation that was as if a fish mouthed out a bubble; the small responses to her movements, her touch, and even- she was convinced- her thoughts.

But what about me? I've been shot. Go on without me, save yourselves. Ooh aah it hurts, like a spoon or a papercut that irritates your mind into the beyond. Listen,
Aug 25, 2017 rated it liked it
به نظرم هریت و دیوید افرد کاملا بی مسئولیت و خوشگذرانی هستند که بار زندگیشونو به دوش دیگران میزارن و توقع کمک از دیگران رو دارند. مشکل اونها اینه که وقتی همه چیز کامله احساس خوشبختی میکنن....
سعی نویسنده این بود که وجهه ترسناک به کتاب بده ولی موفق نبود.
البته شاید اگر فیلم کتاب ساخته بشه( اطلاع ندارم) شادید ترسناک باشه...
Apr 04, 2011 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: well, I know who I wouldn't recommend it to
Shelves: england, house, autism
"It's crazy," said Dorothy. She was flushed with the hot tea and with all the things she was forcing herself not to say. p. 34

This is fascinating.
Yes this is about a bad seed, the last child in an otherwise happy family. But it also has a lot to do with perception and judgement, how the parents, Harriet and David, see themselves and how others see them and how they think others see them. And how they see others, particularly their fifth child. Who is criticized and how and why? What expectations
Sep 07, 2013 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
هذا هو أول عمل أقرأه لدوريس ليسنج:
عمل اجتماعى رفيع يحكى ببساطه عن طفل (طفرة) فى وسط أسرته .
يصور لنا العمل مدى المعاناة التى تعانيها جميع الأطراف من (الأب والأم ) وباقى أفراد الأسرة.
رغم أن العمل عن المجتمع الإنجليزى إلا أنه يجوز عليه قياس باقى مجتمعات العالم.
عمق نفسى واضح ودراية بمفاهييم التربيه المختلفه مع واقعيه فى تناول العمل
فى المجمل عمل جيد .
Thomson Kneeland
Apr 27, 2013 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
This was my introduction to the writing of Doris Lessing; I had high hopes for the book but was sorely disappointed. The writing was pretty unengaging for me, though not poor. The plot was ridiculous in content, though perhaps acceptable as a sort of "unmagical realism"; completely unrealistic and unbelievable, along with two dimensional characters suitable for allegory only. Perhaps the book stands as an indictment of conservative 1950's family values, white picket fences, women staying home to ...more
Sara Kamjou
Oct 20, 2016 rated it did not like it
Shelves: fiction
اصلا نتونستم باهاش ارتباط برقرار کنم و دوستش داشته باشم.
Jan 21, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book is terrifying, in both a general and a very specific way. I loved it, and it haunts me.

In the specific sense, it's a very domestic horror story, and taps into a fear that I suspect is pretty common, especially among women. I've discussed it with friends, this vague terror of procreation - not just the body horror of pregnancy and childbirth, of incubating some alien thing that will eventually push itself out of you - but the alarming uncertainty about what kind of child you will end up
Feb 19, 2009 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: book groups

This is the first Doris Lessing book I've read and she's a great writer. This is a true "horror" story...not in the classic sense, but in the real sense of a horrible situation that people must confront. It leaves the reader with the thought "what would you do if you found yourself in this situation?". Therefore it is a highly discussable book.

Interesting characters, interesting plot, great writing. What more can a reader ask?

Reread in April 2010 for Maze book discussion. Still thought it w
Jul 29, 2016 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
مش قادرة أفهم إحساسي بعد الرواية دي!!! :) حاولت أقرا مراجعات وقعدت أدور على حد ممكن يكون فكر في إن إيه يا ست الجنان ده قرفتينا جتك هبل مثلا بس ملقيتش!!! >_<

لقيت ناس كتير واخدين الموضوع جد وكاتبين مراجعات "عميقة" خاصة الأجانب

المصيبة إني حاولت أعرف تيتة دوريس أخدت النوبل عن أي رواية بس فيه كلام مبهم عن الجوايز اللي أخدتها كلها جمعاء!! وعرفت إنها كانت نسوية وبترعى مشاكل النساء وقريت كلام كبير عن ولادتها والبلاد اللي عاشت فيها بس دورت على أي حاجة نسوية في القصة مالقيتش

طب القصة دي عايزة تق
Feb 29, 2012 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I read "The Fifth Child" last night. That was so, sooooo disturbing. I'm exhausted today because I got my hands on it at 7:30pm and then I was up til 2 finishing it, but I knew I'd never be able to sleep unless I just finished it. Then I couldn't stop thinking about it, and dreamed about it!

If you haven't read it but have any inclination at all to read it, stop here and don't read the rest of my review. Then read it, and then come back here so we can discuss!!! I'm dying to talk to someone abou
Jun 15, 2017 rated it really liked it
Shelves: britain, horror
داستان کتاب مدام فیلم "باید راجع به کوین صحبت کنیم" رو به خاطرم می اورد. مادری که در نتیجه ی بارداری ناخواسته صاحب کودکی میشه که از همون نوزادی شروره تم مشترک این فیلم با این کتابه.هر دو هم به نوعی تو ژانر وحشت طبقه بندی میشن. این که این شر به ذات بچه بر می گرده یا نتیجه ی مهر و عاطفه ایه که مادر در دوران بارداری نسبت به فرزندش حس نمی کنه تا اخر ماجرا یه علامت سوال بزرگ باقی می مونه . این بچه همه ی برنامه ها و مقاصد از پیش تعیین شده ی خانواده برای پیشرفت و خوشبختی رو نه تنها متوقف می کنه بلکه کل ...more
Deborah Markus
Dec 12, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I reread this the day Doris Lessing died. It's very short, and every sentence packs a heady concentration of power.

This is the novel that introduced me to Lessing. I was lucky enough to be working in a bookstore when it was released; I read a review and immediately used my employee's discount to buy a copy. I think I read it all in one sitting that day, too.

The premise is simple: A man and a woman fall in love because each sees in the other a rejection of the shallow, worldly, sex-is-entertainm
Apr 28, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
Lo mal que lo he pasado leyendo este libro, por favor, y eso que es tan cortito que en un par de viajes en bus te lo ventilas. Pero se pasa realmente mal y es que no hace falta que un libro de terror tenga monstruos, aliens, etc, para dar miedo, es mucho mejor cuando cuentas una historia convencional y le das un toque siniestro. En El quinto hijo, Harriet y David son una pareja que cumplen su sueño en común, que es comprar una casa enorme y tener familia numerosa. Todo va bien con Luke, Helen, J ...more
Jul 17, 2013 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book freaked me out. I've never read a Doris Lessing book before and I'm almost sure that this one is out of the ordinary compared to what she usually writes. It's short but packed with lots of ideas concerning family, mother-children relationships, husband -wife relationships, societal expectations, etc. All done with a touch of gothic horror to slide it right down. Well worth the read. Now I'm intrigued to read other titles from Lessing. Although I'm afraid tackling would be a better choi ...more
Miss Ravi
Oct 21, 2015 rated it really liked it
Shelves: novel, 1394
فرزند پنجم دربارهی خانواده است، دربارهی فروپاشی خانواده.
چطور ممکن است تمام خوشیها ناگهان از بین بروند؟ چطور ممکن است زن و مردی مثل هریت و دیوید که تمام آرزویشان داشتن تعداد زیادی بچه است به وضعی برسند که دیگر رابطهشان به وضعی تصنعی و خالی از معنا بکشد؟ بِن فرزند پنجم است. او یک هیولای کوچک و مهارنشدنی است که نه میتوان از بینش بُرد و نه میتوان به حال رهایش کرد. او غیرعادی است، ناخوشایند و خالی از رفتارهای استاندارد اجتماعی. و دوریس لسینگ با روایتی ساده اما جذاب به داستان خانوادهای میپردازد که بی
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Jul 12, 2015 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: emprestados, ingleses
(review in english below)

Não recomendo este livro a ninguém.
As duas estrelas são benevolentes, na verdade é 1,5.
Até se lê bem, à conta da escrita simples, e rapidamente, também por não ter capítulos, sucedendo-se as cenas quase sem darmos conta.
Ao princípio até parece uma história "normal", mas depois surge Ben, a criança que aparenta ter vindo dum mundo ancestral e que arruína a felicidade de toda a família.
Talvez a autora tenha querido escrever uma alegoria quanto à impossibilidade de ser fel
Sonia M
Mar 23, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: novels
Scarier than any tale with imaginary creatures, this gothic story of a demonic kid growing in an ordinary family, is clear and frank in its intentions. It hurts being the black sheep of your family. It brings anger to be blamed for your parents' loss of tranquility before you were even born (Ben was hated by his mother while still in her belly) and being a child, an immature person, means to react with revenge. Ben's illness was his punishing his parents for not accepting him. But the whole fami ...more
You cannot shape your child into what you want, says Doris Lessing: you must help him become what he is. He may not be exactly in your image - but he will be a special snowflake in his own way. Glad to be getting more parenting tips from literature.
Jun 21, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
doris lessing mutlu mesut bir ailenin cehenneme dönen hikâyesini anlatmış. okurun "ben ne yapardım?" diye kendine sormadığı bir an yok. karakterlerin her biriyle hatta ben'le kurduğunuz empatiden yoruluyorsunuz neredeyse...
allahım ne zor, ne zor, diye diye bitirdim romanı. bu küçücük romanda bu atmosferi kurabilmek müthiş bir şey.
Read: April 2017

The plot: Harriet and David are two ordinary middle-class professionals who pride themselves on having an ordinary - if boring - life. Their joint aim in life is to get married and start a large family together, of at least eight children. Their plan proceeds smoothly up until the fifth pregnancy when their happy normal lives start to slowly go off the rails.

I found The Fifth Child to be nothing like I'd been expecting. I enjoyed the depictions of the couple, their four children
Dec 12, 2011 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction
A middle-class English couple buck the disapproval of both their families and plan to have “at least six” children, buying a huge house and becoming the focus of all holiday gatherings. The fifth child, however, Ben, after a difficult pregnancy, turns out to be some sort of evil throwback, horrifying and sending away the extended family.

This slim novel appears to be making a comment on social selfishness, as well as being a parable for our violent modern times – “the barbarous eighties,” as the
Sherif Metwaly

انا حاولت ....
والله حاولت ....
حاولت اربع مرات اكمل قرائتها لكن مقدرتش
!!!!! الواحد له قدرة ع التحمل ياجماعة
الترجمة مأساوية .. أو يمكن يكون اسلوب الكاتبة هو اللى كدة والراجل اللى بيترجم مش فى ايده حاجة يعملها
كمية جمل اعتراضية ف وسط الكلام غير طبيعية
يعنى ممكن تلاقى فى بداية الصفحة الجملة ابتدت ....وبعد سطر كدة عملك العلامة دى (-) عشان يقول جملة اعتراضية فى وسط الكلام ..لكن المشكلة ان الجملة ممكن توصل لاربع خمس سطور وبعد كدة يقفل بنفس العلامة (-) ويكمل الجملة اللى بدأها فى أول الصفحة اللى انت بت
Yasaman A
Nov 30, 2016 rated it it was ok
زن و مردی رو تصور کنید که از زندگی خانواده های خودشون راضی نیستن؛ پس تصمیم می گیرن که با هم یه خانواده ی جدید بسازن: خانواده ای بزرگ، پرجمعیت و شاد که پناه تمام عموزاده های غم زده و خواهر و برادرهای نیمه خوشبختشون باشه. البته، البته، البته که همچین نقشه ای محکوم به شکسته. ذات دنیاست که نقشه ی ما برای به شادی ابدی رسیدن رو به چالش بکشه. کتاب داستان سروکله زدن این خانواده با بچه ی پنجمشونه. بچه ای که اومده تا به شادی یه خونواده پایان بده...
Feb 17, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: uk

Chi paga per le nostre scelte?

Due ragazzi timidi, teneri, impacciati si incontrano, si innamorano, decidono di sposarsi e di... fare figli. Tanti figli! Una casa piena di bimbi felici e vocianti. E vogliono anche una casa grande, grandissima, in modo che ci sia spazio per tutti, anche per grandi riunioni famigliari con parenti ed amici.

Servono grandi mezzi però per fare tutto ciò, mezzi che non hanno. Ma se credi che tutto ti sia dovuto, che la fortuna sarà sempre dalla tua parte e che sei migli
Mar 11, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
فرزند پنجم، ماجرای به دنیا آمدن و رشد کودکی است که شبیه هیچ کس نیست. بن پسری که در ظاهر شبیه اجداد غار نشین مان است. مادرش هریت نمی تواند پسر غول مانند خود را رها کند و به خاطر حفظ او توسط مادر ، بچه های سالم و زیبای خانوداه در طی سالیان مجبور به ترک خانه می شوند. هریت مادر بن حتی از دوست داشتن این موجود عجیب که نه ماه به شکمش ضربه میزد، مطمئن نیست و بن نیز هرگز به آغوش گرفتن های ظاهری مادر واکنشی نداشته و همیشه با چشمان بی روحش به اطراف نگاه کرده است. بن می تواند حتی یک موجود فضایی تلقی شود که ...more
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