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3.64  ·  Rating details ·  2,367 ratings  ·  117 reviews
His name is Charles Render, and he is a psychoanalyst, and a mechanic of dreams. A Shaper. In a warm womb of metal, his patients dream their neuroses, while Render, intricately connected to their brains, dreams with them, makes delicate adjustments, and ultimately explains and heals. Her name is Eileen Shallot, a resident in psychiatry. She wants desperately to become a ...more
Paperback, 252 pages
Published February 27th 2001 by ibooks Inc. (first published October 1966)
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Evgeny
Oct 13, 2014 rated it liked it
Shelves: scifi
If you ever saw the movie Inception, I really do not need to describe the book to you; all of the major ideas of the movie came straight out of this book. Anyhow, Charles Render is a Shaper, in other words he is a psychiatrist who treats people by entering their dreams and changing them for the benefit of the patients. When a woman asks him to help her become a Shaper he is sure it is completely impossible in her case as she is blind from birth. He is still interested enough to try. In fact he ...more
Manny
Feb 06, 2009 rated it really liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
Did anyone else think of this classic 60s SF novel when they watched Inception? I certainly did.
notgettingenough
I don’t know why this one is largely under the radar. Imaginative, nicely written, vision of the future which isn’t so wrong -love the dog.

But is there anybody who has read this and understands the ongoing part of the man walking along the road who ends up killing himself? Is this Render? Is this how he escapes being trapped in another person’s dream? Is everything that happens in the book a dream except for this part of it?

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Craig
Aug 20, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The Dream Master is a classic Nebula Award winning novel that isn't as well-remembered as it should be. Perhaps it's been overshadowed by Lord of Light and the Amber books... it's a moving, well-written piece, and deserves a wider current audience.
Jörg
This story leaves me very confused. It's not that I totally disliked it, but I'm also not sure that I could follow till the end what was going on. It probably would help to discuss it with other readers.
Erik Graff
Oct 08, 2008 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: anyone interested in psychodynamics or Zelazny
Recommended to Erik by: no one
Shelves: sf
I encountered the novella in a Nebula Awards Collection while in college, then acquired the expanded version years later. Both were impressive, the novella moreso.

The question of inner states, of private thoughts has long intrigued me. As B.F. Skinner was apt to point out, the only aspect of human being which is scientifically scrutinizable currently is objective human behavior. I will go futher and assert that subjectivity does not exist in any strong sense. There are no truly private thoughts.
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William
Jan 05, 2013 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Compared to modern SF novels the length of this book might almost be closer to being a short story than a novel but Zelazny does mange to pack more ideas into a short space than many other manage in much longer works.

The main character, Render, is a dream therapist who works by manipulating the dreams of his patients to turn them into immersive experiences where Render shapes the dreams to help his clients gain new perspectives on their issues. This is a perilous occupation since if the
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Dan Schwent
Jan 10, 2009 rated it liked it
Shelves: zelazny
Charles Render is a Shaper, a type of psychiatrist who adminsters therapy via sort of a psychic virtual reality. Enter Eileen Shallot, a woman blind from birth who wants to be a Shaper and wants Render to teach her to see.

I actually don't have a lot to say about this one. While I liked it, it was a little on the meh side of the Zelazny spectrum. I really liked the Shaper concept and the talking dogs but didn't really care about the characters.
Alazzar
Huh. I just finished reading The Dream Master, and I’m not quite sure what to say. I’m a little embarrassed to admit that I didn’t quite understand everything.

I know that this was originally based on a Nebula-winning novella called He Who Shapes, and I definitely wonder if the novella is the superior version of this story. It seemed like there were a lot of scenes and sections that weren’t really necessary.

But, once again—maybe I just didn’t get it.

Sometimes when I read Zelazny, I’ll come across
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Leonardo
Aug 25, 2014 rated it really liked it
"The universe did not invent justice. Man did. Unfortunately, man must reside in the universe."

A little hard to review this one. It's one of those books that I like even though it makes me feel very intellectually diminished. It makes me feel like a ape trying to figure out sarcasm, to put it simply.

You see, even though I clearly missed a lot of references to a lot of things, I feel I did understood more than less of what was going on, but some parts I just didn't understand. Some simply seemed
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Mel
Sep 02, 2013 rated it it was amazing
I feel I should give this rating a disclaimer. If this book were not a re-read, if I had come into it completely new, it would have been a 3 to 3.5 for me. But the memories I have of this book are so pervasive and so revolutionary back when I read it that I can't give anything that formative less than five.

Honestly, these recollections were not all The Dream Master. I just started cutting my teeth on "adult" sci-fi at the time, and threw myself recklessly at anything that purported to be a
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Paul
Jan 16, 2012 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I love this story. The fact that it can be construed as circular (and there are some good arguments to this effect) really adds to my enjoyment of the story, and it's something that can really only be appreciated under certain conditions (which is one of the reasons I rated it shy of perfection):
* you have to read it more than once to catch it
* you have to be familiar with some of the symbolic imagery, such as kabalism
* familiarity with a couple different versions of Tristan & Isolde,
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T.N  Kazo
Oct 04, 2016 rated it it was ok
Terribly anti-climactic and contrived plot. Paper thin characters. Cringeworthy romance. Typos and errors galore. The only salvageable aspect is the writing itself, which pushed me to get through this book as fast as I possibly could. Not quite sure how this won a Nebula Award....
John
Jun 06, 2019 rated it liked it
I feel so odd bestowing a mere three stars upon a Nebula-winning novel. The concept is creative and intelligent, the language is beautiful and powerful, the world-building is (as usual with Zelazny) effective... but I think the main character just didn't engage me. I neither liked Render nor cared enough about him to disregard my lack of liking, so I felt no stake in the progress of the narrative. I think I would find much more compelling a version of this story from Eileen's point of view.
Seton Catholic Central High
This book talks about the some of neuron-technology in the future, which is the kind of the technology to solve the some of the hidden psychological problem in the people's mind by modifying people's dream. The people being modified would be lying in a simulator and, the people who solve them would be able to go into the dream, and do something in the patient's dream in order to inflect the direction that the dream goes. Just like the movie Inception, the people's dream is connected with ...more
Denzil Pugh
The Dream Master is the second full length novel written by Zelazny in 1966. The title page informs the reader that it had been a serialized short story in a magazine. Unfortunately, it reads like a fleshed out, stretched short story. It becomes disjointed, a series of scenes seemingly unconnected and written at different times, so much so you can tell which parts are original, and which parts are added.

The main story deals with Render, a psychologist who has become known as a pioneer in the
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Matus
Sep 08, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The first half or so of the book was pretty rough; it was a little preachy and awkward, trying a little hard, and moreover tediously brought in a lot of usual Zelazny elements: writes himself into the book as someone attractive to women and generally superior to his colleagues (but unwilling to engage in direct competition), there is some form of magic, and there is obsession with death.

But the details and setting were nice and interesting, and even in the rough parts there were interesting
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Lee Krieger
I originally read this book back in the early 80's and remembered it fondly.
I just reread it and was sadly disappointed.

Maybe they just floated over my head when I read them as a young adult, but the endless obscure literary references got increasingly annoying, and I kept wondering what they had to do with the story. It was as if Zelazny was trying to impress his readers with his vast knowledge and understanding of science, music and literature... like it was a job interview.

Dude... what
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Stuart Dean
This book won the Nebula Award so it must be great, but I just don't see it. It's like Zelazny had just read a book on psychotherapy and wanted to impress his readers with his vast knowledge of the subject. And it reads like a short story stretched into a novel.

It's about a a future psychiatrist who can enter people's dreams and give them therapy. He meets a blind girl who wants him to use his technique to show her what it's like to see. He is warned repeatedly that this is a bad idea, where he
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Raj
May 22, 2010 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
This is a story of a Shaper, Charles Render, who is part artist, part psychologist, as he shapes people's dreams to try and cure psychological problems. His latest case is unique: Eileen Shallot, a blind psychologist who wants to become a Shaper herself but must be cured of her sight-neurosis before she can begin.

Being a book about dreams, this book had plenty of dream imagery, whole sections that didn't seem to fit into the main storyline, but which made sense in their own dream-logic. The end
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Simon
Feb 23, 2011 rated it liked it
Shelves: sf
An interesting premise with a weak execution in a needlessly fragmented narrative. It wasn't a long novel but I felt that it would have either worked better as a short story or fleshed out in more depth as a longer novel.

Surprisingly, this book one a nebula award (or so the blurb on the cover claims) which just goes to show that winning an award is not always a good indicator of quality. Despite its award this is not one of Zelazny's well-remembered novels and, as far as I am concerned, for good
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Jack
Dec 05, 2016 rated it really liked it
3.5

So I've just finished this, and I'm still mulling it over really. As always with Zelazny it was a very interesting read, which I did enjoy. It, however, was very spasmodic. It felt like so many vignettes, which might have been the idea, but I'm not quite sure why he chose to do it that way. They were interesting, but I'm not sure how that contributed to the story. Perhaps could have had a stronger ending, but I'm not really complaining.
Matt
Jun 14, 2016 rated it really liked it
Myth and psychology intertwine in Zelazny's The Dream Master. In the future, Charles Render, a neuroparticipant therapist- a Shaper- renders mental landscapes for his patients to explore their psyche. Which, of course, is the most dangerous terrain there is. By mixing the trauma of his characters with their realities and the underlying mythic themes which drive the human experience, Zelazny crafts a unique novella. A story about how easy it is to get lost in our trauma.
Andrea Turner
Apr 27, 2017 rated it really liked it
This book was an interesting read, however the ending didn't feel complete to me. I also noticed several typos in this edition.
David Caldwell
Aug 20, 2018 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
Roger Zelazny has been one of my favorite authors for many years now. But some of his books are just harder to read/get into than others. This was one of the hard ones for me. Several reviews said it reminded them of Inception (or more accurately Inception reminded them of this book since it came out in 1966 or so).

The story revolves around a doctor that is the next step of psychology. They "go into" a person's mind and create a dream-like state that helps them to deal with whatever problem
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T.L. Barrett
Aug 13, 2019 rated it liked it
Every now and then a bibliophile must go through the piles and piles of books he or she owns and justify the occasional trips to used bookstores by actually reading some of the treasures he or she has gathered. This time I picked up this Nebula Award winner first published in novel form in 1964. I wanted to love this book. I didn’t.

The novel focuses on Charles Render a psychologist in near-future America, who has the rare ability via machines to travel into the subconscious mind of a dreamer. It
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Daryl
Feb 28, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi, zelazny
Continuing my chronological reading of Zelazny's works, this is his second novel, published, like his first, in 1966. This was my first reading of this novel, and I found it a bit of a disappointment. Charles Render is a psychoanalyst (a "neuroparticipant therapist") and a Shaper of dreams. Render enters the dreams of his patients and controls (shapes) them in order to analyze and treat the patients. (A lot of other reviewers have mentioned the movie Inception, and how this novel apparently ...more
Ralph Jones
Jan 23, 2020 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 20th-century
So, what happens when the world become overpopulated? Roger Zelazny wrote about a society that has the problem in his book, The Dream Master.

Using technology, they use a method called “neuroparticipant therapy”, one of their psychotherapeutic innovations, because there’s so little space everywhere and people feel cramped that their psyche got worse as the days go by.

The protagonist is named Charles Render, a leader in his field in which he specializes in neuroparticipant therapy. What he does is
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Tim
Apr 18, 2018 rated it liked it
Dream Master! Dream Faster!

Over the years, Roger Zelazny has been the most reviewed author on my blog which is odd because while I like his work I don't necessarily love it.

I may find him easy to write about because many of his interests - pop psychology, mythology, religion - coincide with my own. I also like the way his allusiveness - rich descriptions and deep conversations spanning the pulp architecture of his plotting - resists easy explanation.

In a way Zelazny represented the accessible
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Douglas Milewski
Sep 28, 2019 rated it liked it
The Dream Master (1966) by Roger Zelazny posits that there is a branch of dangerous psychiatry which can address a human's mind by working with their dreams. If everything works well, the patient improves, but if something goes terribly wrong, then the dream master goes crazy.

This story is a warning about messing with dreams and the hubris of mankind. By helping a blind woman attempt to become a dream master, he fails to see the doom that creeps upon him.

I found the actual story somewhat dull.
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