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17 Marigold Lane

(Prudence Penderhaus #1)

R.M. Gilmore (Goodreads Author)

4.64 · Rating details · 76 ratings · 56 reviews

In a town like Flintlock, Prudence Penderhaus was a freak. A weirdo. A loser of epic proportions.
That was until one word changed her life, and the town of Flintlock, forever.
When a moment of long-awaited courage brings her to the porch of the town-dubbed spook house, uncovering an odd boy no one knew existed is only the beginning.

MY NAME IS PRUDENCE PENDERHAUS.
I'VE NEVER ...more

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Published July 2019 by Mac Gille Mhur Pub (first published August 31st 2015)

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Aug 05, 2019 Angela rated it it was amazing

5 Stars

17 Marigold Lane is the first book in the Prudence Penderhaus series by R.M Gilmore. This is the first book that I have read by Ms. Gilmore, so I was intrigued to see what I would discover once I opened the cover. This is a bit of an emotional young adult story with lots of mystery, humour, secrets, lies, courage, learning to live in the face of death, the dreaded “C” word, and so much more.
I didn’t expect to discover a story with quite as much depth as this has, or one which gave me pau ...more

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Jan 15, 2017 Ashley Poteet rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Yeah, this was a binge worthy read! I couldn't and frankly didn't want to put it down. I loved this book, only by the second chapter was I laughing and crying. It brought out my emotions and I couldn't contain my laughter or the tears. My BF thinks I'm insane when he walks in and I'm crying while reading lol. That to me is pure talent, to actually feel for these characters as if they were real and next to me. I'm a hard @zz anyway and I don't have normal emotions. So yea...was really awesome!

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Aug 05, 2019 Jenni Bishop rated it really liked it · review of another edition

17 Marigold Lane (Prudence Penderhaus Book 1) by R.M. Gilmore is a YA coming of age
story. Once you start, you won’t be able to stop reading. It is well written with well
developed characters. It is a story where the plot is dark and the subject is intriguing
and enthralling, and emotions run high. This somber story is as mysterious as it is at
times funny but it is also a little sad and will make your heart break it is also interesting
and different that you need to know what is going to happen.

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Jan 31, 2017 Paranormal Books R Us rated it really liked it · review of another edition

17 Marigold Lane Review

Prudence Penderhaus was an average high school nobody that has flown under the radar all her life. She never would have guessed the day she found out she was dying would be the first day she really started to live.

This was a clever mystery that was a pleasure to read. I won't go into details to avoid spoilers but this story definitely hit home for me and left me with all the feels. The characters were smart and interesting and we learned a good chunk of the mystery but it ...more

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Sep 08, 2015 Tara Dawn (Colourful WordWench) rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: wordwenchesguiltypleasure, y-a-to-die-for, mystery, beta, young-adult, 2015-reads, su-spense

I don't usually do young adult novels, but this one was amazing! I could not stop reading and stayed awake into the wee hours of the morning until I finished it.

Just in the first couple of pages, you come to know Prudence Penderhaus and her struggles. She's a teenage outcast, picked on by everyone at school. And she's just recently discovered that she's dying. She's never taken chances, and with the knowledge that she may not live long, decides that's exactly what she will do. Take chances. Lot I don't usually do young adult novels, but this one was amazing! I could not stop reading and stayed awake into the wee hours of the morning until I finished it.

Just in the first couple of pages, you come to know Prudence Penderhaus and her struggles. She's a teenage outcast, picked on by everyone at school. And she's just recently discovered that she's dying. She's never taken chances, and with the knowledge that she may not live long, decides that's exactly what she will do. Take chances. Lots of them.

First one on the list is to stop by the creepy, haunted looking house on her block. There are all kinds of rumors about what is inside, including coffins, but she wants to see for herself. What she doesn't expect is to find an odd boy her age living there. She has lived on that street her entire life and had never seen him. No one knew he even existed. She likes Cassius, even though he is different. They have a lot in common. She makes it her mission to discover why he was hidden away and to free him from the prison he has been trapped in all these years.

But Cassius is not your normal boy. He is autistic and has never been taught how to function in the world. When Prudence succeeds in getting him out into society, it's a shock for him. He does things that are not acceptable and she feels responsible and views herself as his teacher.

When Cassius does something that gets him thrown in jail, Prudence realizes there is far more going on in his home than she could've ever imagined and is about to break open a long buried secret that will shake their small town to it's core. Her only concern is that it doesn't break Cassius completely.

I love the characters in this book. Prudence is a powerhouse of emotion. She's dealt with a lot in her life and doesn't want to see anyone else treated badly. Full of sarcasm like any teenager, she's got a lot of heart and it shows. Her connection with Cass is sweet, loving, and daring. Knowing she could die soon, she wants to make sure that Cass can survive in the world, not being tucked away from it. To her, he is a hidden gem that has a lot to offer. His happiness and well being is of utmost importance to her.

Watching Cass learn to adapt to society is heartbreaking and wondrous. RM Gilmore captured his personality and ticks to perfection. He is quite the enigmatic young man. He has such a deep level of emotion even though he has trouble expressing it.

My heart broke for him when his secrets came to light. All the things he suffered and endured alone, no on should have to go through that. But Prudence was there for him and refused to leave his side, an underdog fighting for an underdog. It is quite an amazing scene that leaves you with so many mixed emotions. I teared up when he learned that she was dying. His love for her is pure and untainted by social expectations. His random comments expressing that love had me happy for Prudence. She had found someone who loved her for who she was.

Sometimes the world only gave us one person, but when that person came along, we had to hang on to them for dear life because never in our lives would we ever be so accepted.

Pick up this book and read it. Devour it. Fall in love with two quirky kids and unlock the mysteries of 17 Marigold Lane. ...more

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Aug 09, 2015 Amanda Miller /A Bookaholic's Fix: Feeding the Addiction rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

I had the privilege of getting a early look at this one. I am continuously amazed by Gilmore's ability to weave an intriguing tale with characters that defy the norms. This one is no different.

Prudence Penderhaus isn't the typical type of teenager even before she learns she's sick. She tries to stick to the shadows hoping not to stand out which is a difficult feat considering everything from her height to her hair makes her stick out like a sore thumb. But all the things that make her different I had the privilege of getting a early look at this one. I am continuously amazed by Gilmore's ability to weave an intriguing tale with characters that defy the norms. This one is no different.

Prudence Penderhaus isn't the typical type of teenager even before she learns she's sick. She tries to stick to the shadows hoping not to stand out which is a difficult feat considering everything from her height to her hair makes her stick out like a sore thumb. But all the things that make her different are what make her the perfect candidate for this particular adventure. If she were 'normal' she wouldn't be willing to take the chance that leads her to uncover a mystery right down the road. Cassius Shooster isn't a typical teen either. At least Prudence is neurotypical (NT) while Cass has Asperger's, a disorder on the autism spectrum that makes it difficult for him to understand things NTs take for granted in social interaction like figures of speech, inflection, sarcasm, and body languge. Life for him is very different than others his age.

I love the way Gilmore develops her characters. Never content to have the stereotypical cast of characters, she sets hers apart from the flock. Prue is strong despite her illness and she is determined not to let fear dictate her life. She is a teenage girl but she isn't concerned with clothes, makeup, boys, etc. she has more important things to worry about. Instead of boy bands, she'd rather obsess about horror flicks. She is fiercely protective of her new friend and doesn't care one bit that others try to warn her away from the strange boy. All of this adds up to create a wonderful character that would normally be relegated to the background but Gilmore brings this oddity front and center and makes her the heroine of the tale.

Then she extends her cast of main characters to include a boy that, under normal circumstances, would be secondary at best yet she brings him out of the shadows (figuratively and literally). Cass's characters is superbly crafted. If you are unfamiliar with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), let me explain a little something: every person with ASD is different. While many share similar mannerisms or quirks, ASD effects everyone differently. I have a teenage son on the spectrum and while he has more difficulties than Cass, I recognized the aspects unique to the spectrum just like I do when I encounter Aspies and other ASD individuals so I found Gilmore's depiction to be spot on. His tale, which unfolds in the story, is complex and at times heartbreaking but there is also hope for something better.

The story is filled with twists and turns and it kept me glued to my computer screen until I finished reading the entire thing. It is YA but don't let that deter you. It isn't one of those teen angst filled books. It is a well written, intriguing story that just happens to center around a couple of teenagers close enough to adulthood to behave like humans. I loved the story and Gilmore has created yet another world that I want to get lost in. I hope to see more Prudence Penderhaus stories in the future because this one definitely earned a 5-star rating and has me hungry for more. ...more

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Aug 10, 2015 Tonya rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

This is a great young adult read. If you love a smartass, caring, take no crap, odd teenager, you will love this book.

This book is filled with mystery, secrets, lies, murder, and oddness (we can't forget about the weirdos). It kept my attention for the entire time and had my mind coming up with different scenarios the entire time. I was actually wrong about all of my ideas, which very rarely happens. I had no clue what would happen next.

Prudence, or Pru, Penderhaus lives in the small town of Fl This is a great young adult read. If you love a smartass, caring, take no crap, odd teenager, you will love this book.

This book is filled with mystery, secrets, lies, murder, and oddness (we can't forget about the weirdos). It kept my attention for the entire time and had my mind coming up with different scenarios the entire time. I was actually wrong about all of my ideas, which very rarely happens. I had no clue what would happen next.

Prudence, or Pru, Penderhaus lives in the small town of Flintlock. She has just received devastating news...stage 3 cancer. She is an odd girl, a movie buff, a social outcast, awkward, and extremely tall with red hair. She hasn't really done anything in her short seventeen years. Receiving this diagnosis causes her to start living, she wants to leave her mark.

Every small town has that one very spooky house. In Flintlock, that house is 17 Marigold Lane. After being bullied and covered in sugary stickyness, Pru decides to knock on the door. She just has to see the inside of that house. In case there is a coffin in the living room. What greets her catches her totally off guard and turns her into a modern day Nancy Drew and a one girl crew of Mystery Incorporated.

Cassius Shooster lives at 17 Marigold Lane. One big issue there...No one knows he exists! That is, until Pru put on her big girl, brave panties and knocked on that door. He's been locked inside for his entire life, by his parents.

Pru knows what she has to do, teach Cassius how "to be human". He's never been outside before, Pru changes that and by doing so, she changes everything and opens up a huge chest of worms that some people in Flintlock buried.

Secrets start coming out and mysteries are being solved.

"I was learning my town had more secrets stuffed in its closet than a dirty politician."

I really loved how passionate Pru is, and how she stood her ground, even to the Sheriff of Flintlock. She knew she was right and would not back down. What did she have to lose? She's dieing anyways.

Her friend Bonnie is a little badass. And by the end of the book, she has a few more to add to her mystery solving team.

I will be reading more of this series, when they come out. I'm hooked and I'm a weirdo too. And as Pru says...
"Weirdos should stick together." ...more

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Sep 07, 2015 Autumn rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

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I received this book to give an honest review.

I didn't know what to really expect with this book you have Prudence who is dying decides to do one thing that sets everything into motion.
On her street there is a house that everyone calls the spook house you all know people have stories about houses and what are in them. Well Prudence decides to knock on the door one day and when it opens it takes her by surprise it seems there is a young man living there who we learn is named Cassius. There is mo I received this book to give an honest review.

I didn't know what to really expect with this book you have Prudence who is dying decides to do one thing that sets everything into motion.
On her street there is a house that everyone calls the spook house you all know people have stories about houses and what are in them. Well Prudence decides to knock on the door one day and when it opens it takes her by surprise it seems there is a young man living there who we learn is named Cassius. There is more to Cassius than meets the eye and Prudence is determined to make him her friend. She wants to show him how the world is and that he doesn't have to hide inside, but it seems as though there is a reason behind it all. What will Prudence uncover while trying to "rescue" Cassius?
Cassius was a character who I felt for all over. To be treated the way he was in his home and outside of it broke my heart. I liked how the author brought in a touchy subject to some people and that being Asperger's. Not a lot of people know what it is and the author does mention it within the book. It just goes to show you that people who have Asperger's can be normal people with just a few ticks you just have to treat them that way.
It seems the town has a secret and there are some who want to keep what is found hidden.
Now when we meet Prudence at first she seems to be just a young woman who is shy and rather stay to herself but as we read on we see her open up more and become more vocal when she doesn't like the way things go or how people are treated. One in particular Cassius. I liked that about her she didn't back down or give up no matter what was thrown in her path. The way she treated Cassius was perfect. She had patience with him she didn't judge him. It was nice to have a character show compassion towards someone who may seem different to others.
Now it seemed that it is always raining in their town that I am surprised it has not become a flood how in the heck does it rain that much haha. Had to bring this up as I don't think it was ever sunny.

I was very impressed with this book as I said at the beginning I had no clue what to expect. Was it a mystery? Was it about a young girl and boy falling in love? Is it about death? It had the right amount of everything to make it a good story to read in one sitting. I do hope there is more coming on Marigold Lane.
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Sep 06, 2015 Karen Voitik rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

>Book Review – 17 Marigold Lane –

> This is the first book in the Prudence Penderhaus series and ends in with a cliffhanger.

>Prudence is a 17 year old girl, just diagnosed with cancer. She is a social misfit at school. Her lack of future causes her to knock on a door she had always been afraid to knock on, where fate introduces her to Cassius. Cassius has a form of high functioning Aspergers, but is hidden away by his abusive parents.

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Feb 26, 2016 Emily Maynard rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Couldn't put it down, loved this story.

First, many thanks go to the author, R.M. Gilmore, who provided a free copy of 17 Marigold Lane in exchange for an honest review. I’ve now got a new series that I’m addicted to, thank you ever so much.

It is not very often in life that one gets the opportunity to be truly brave. Prudence is afforded such an opportunity when she is diagnosed with cancer. With the attitude of “what do I have to lose”, she knocks on the door of the creepiest house on the stre ...more

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Sep 23, 2015 Suleika Santana -All About Books rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

OMG! The feels on this one! Killing me....
I really LOVED this book, it is incredibly good and I didn't wanted it to end.
Well written, awesome characters, a plot that you wouldn't believe with mystery and all. There is sort of a love story in there as well, a special one. I have to say that I loved Cass like a mother would his son, he is too old to be mine but I still loved him that way. The story touched me because I know all about autism, I have a nephew with autism but not the kind that Cass ...more

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Oct 18, 2015 Merissa (Archaeolibrarian) rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: young-adult, mystery

This book starts with a seventeen-year-old girl coming to terms with the fact she's dying. Now going on from that, you would expect this book to full of doom and gloom. Instead, it is funny and heartbreaking at the same time. Prudence makes a decision to do something that she has never dared to before, based on the fact of 'what does it matter now anyway?' What follows on is a mystery story that will keep you intrigued and engrossed as you turn the pages. The slowly developing relationship betwe ...more

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Sep 10, 2015 Victoria Stolte rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

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This book was different than anything I had read really and was very interesting to say the least. We have come to Marigold Lane and what we find there is not what you would expect. The need to find out what lurks inside the spooky house that is a few doors down from her own Prudence finds herself knocking on the door. When the door opens she finds something different than she expected but this starts a series of events that bring us to uncovering the mystery behind the strange family that lives ...more

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Feb 03, 2017 A.J. rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

This was a little different than anything else I've read from this author. I do enjoy YA books from time to time and this is one I'd for sure recomend. It all takes place over such a short amount of time that it felt extra face paced and l wasnt really wanting to put it down. I think the characters were extremely relatable, especially if you've ever felt like the outcast. And I can honestly say if you have any remote experience with being around someone with ASD, you should pick up on it pretty ...more

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Aug 25, 2015 Amy Bartley rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Absolutely sucked me in right away. I couldn't put it down, now I can't wait for the next book In The series.
Prudence a teenage weirdo, who hates high school, and is picked on by most of the kids in it. Prudence has just received some shocking news. She has cancer. She is still reeling from the difficult news and decides now is the time to live what life she has left. One morning on her way to school she finds herself in front of the town spook house. She rings the bell, and to her surprise a y ...more

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Aug 26, 2015 TJ rated it really liked it · review of another edition

I've been excited for this book since I read the blurb; and it did not disappoint! This book is such a fantastic YA read.
17 Marigold Lane is a perfect blend of mystery, intrigue, loss, acceptance, and fandom references!
The thing that I loved most was probably the fandom references, from Doctor Who to The Hunger Games, and everything in between. It made the book that much more relatable and enjoyable. (#Geek #FandomForever)
I loved the characters and the storyline. It kept me hooked right from the ...more

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Sep 22, 2015 Indies Heart rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

What an awesome read! Two hearts, one facing death, the other hidden away from the world for most of his life, meet in a moment of courage. Crazy twists and turns keep you engaged as Pru and Cass embark on a journey where both meet love. There is something fishy going on with the Sheriff's department, one in particular, and I am anxious to find out what secrets he is hiding in the next book. You will definitely be on the edge of your seat with this one. Great job by the author! Well written! ...more

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Oct 21, 2015 Shy rated it really liked it · review of another edition

The start of the book was interesting. I had to idea as to where the author was taking me. I started curious and slowly enjoyed getting into the story. Then I was surprised by the events that came up next. I was very much into it and was getting to know the characters better. Then I was surprised again. It's already the end. And I was like, seriously?! I want more. I couldn't believe I am done with the book already. I need to know what happens next. That said, I'd definitely read the next one. ...more

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Nov 17, 2015 JC (Jen) rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: books-read-in-2015

I loved this book! You get a little bit of everything, romance, mystery, suspense, some twists and turns, and so much more. I can't wait to read more of Cassius and Prudence's story. If you are looking for a book that is different, a book that will suck you in, and that you will truly enjoy, then you need to go one-click this! There was so much packed into this book, it is so well written, and it will leave you begging for more <3

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Aug 25, 2015 Nicki rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

This was an exciting and wonderful beginning to a new series. I loved the characters, plot, and everything about this terrific story about the so called weirdo kids. Prudence is resilient. Cassius breaks your heart. Together they were pure magic. Can't wait to see what happens next! ...more

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Oct 05, 2015 Erecia added it · review of another edition

Good read

Four stars because at the end of the book a certain event gets mentioned over and over. We could have had at least three less pages without the repetitive mention of said event. Overall it was a good story, I really like the main characters. Happy reading

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Aug 05, 2020 Michael Loring rated it really liked it

Weirdos stick together.

Prudence Penderhaus has just discovered she's dying, and is not handling it well. In an act of bravery, she decides to pay a visit to the infamous "spook house" that has remained a legend in their quiet little town of Flintlock for its foreboding presence. Inside, she meets a young man named Cassius, and that's when everything changes.

The budding friendship of Prudence and Cassius is absolutely adorable. Cassius has a hard time understanding certain aspects of the human ...more

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Mar 15, 2017 Frankie Brazelton rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: reviewed, ya

Hoist your freak flags! This short novel speaks to all of you outcasts.

You will adore and despise Gilmore's incredibly vivid and well written kooky characters. Some are utterly kick-ass and cool as hell. Others....well let's just say a punch in the gut and a kick down the stairs won't sate your desire for revenge by the time you reach the story's end. There is a beautiful diversity to her characters as well. Gilmore doesn't shy away from autism, teenage awkwardness, alcoholism, or even cancer. S ...more

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Dec 28, 2019 L.C. Son rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Fun & engaging YA read! I enjoyed Pru and Cass’ story! Really liked how the author brought their quirky characteristics out without making them seem like stereotypes or a freak show. They were believable and the story engaging! This was on my holiday read list and now I’m going to 19 Marigold!!! Can’t wait to see what happens next!

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Jun 18, 2017 Lucy rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Loved it. Realistic depiction of one person with ASD making the point that no one person is the same, with a great mystery and a twist at the end.

Fabbo!

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Jul 22, 2019 Tonya rated it it was amazing

Not your daughter’s YA!

This is a great young adult read. If you love a smartass, caring, take no crap, odd teenager, you will love this book.

This book is filled with mystery, secrets, lies, murder, and oddness (we can't forget about the weirdos). It kept my attention for the entire time and had my mind coming up with different scenarios the entire time. I was actually wrong about all of my ideas, which very rarely happens. I had no clue what would happen next.

Prudence, or Pru, Penderhaus lives i Not your daughter’s YA!

This is a great young adult read. If you love a smartass, caring, take no crap, odd teenager, you will love this book.

This book is filled with mystery, secrets, lies, murder, and oddness (we can't forget about the weirdos). It kept my attention for the entire time and had my mind coming up with different scenarios the entire time. I was actually wrong about all of my ideas, which very rarely happens. I had no clue what would happen next.

Prudence, or Pru, Penderhaus lives in the small town of Flintlock. She has just received devastating news...stage 3 cancer. She is an odd girl, a movie buff, a social outcast, awkward, and extremely tall with red hair. She hasn't really done anything in her short seventeen years. Receiving this diagnosis causes her to start living, she wants to leave her mark.

Every small town has that one very spooky house. In Flintlock, that house is 17 Marigold Lane. After being bullied and covered in sugary stickyness, Pru decides to knock on the door. She just has to see the inside of that house. In case there is a coffin in the living room. What greets her catches her totally off guard and turns her into a modern day Nancy Drew and a one girl crew of Mystery Incorporated.

Cassius Shooster lives at 17 Marigold Lane. One big issue there...No one knows he exists! That is, until Pru put on her big girl, brave panties and knocked on that door. He's been locked inside for his entire life, by his parents.

Pru knows what she has to do, teach Cassius how "to be human". He's never been outside before, Pru changes that and by doing so, she changes everything and opens up a huge chest of worms that some people in Flintlock buried.

Secrets start coming out and mysteries are being solved.

"I was learning my town had more secrets stuffed in its closet than a dirty politician."

I really loved how passionate Pru is, and how she stood her ground, even to the Sheriff of Flintlock. She knew she was right and would not back down. What did she have to lose? She's dieing anyways.

Her friend Bonnie is a little badass. And by the end of the book, she has a few more to add to her mystery solving team.

I will be reading more of this series, when they come out. I'm hooked and I'm a weirdo too. And as Pru says...
"Weirdos should stick together." ...more

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Aug 04, 2019 E.A. rated it really liked it

Shelves: ya-novels, fiction, favorites, mysteries, romance, mystery-thriller, new-adult, read-for-review, oh-the-feels, top-10

17 Marigold Lane (Prudence Penderhaus Book 1) by R.M. Gilmore was an intriguing, emotional read, that had me hooked and reading into the wee hours.

Wow, this book was something I tell you. I started reading it a little later in the evening thinking, I'll read a few chapters before I go to bed. Well it's almost 2 in the morning, so yeah, you can say that was a reading fail on my part. I couldn't put this book down, I kept trying, but my mind would not let it go, and sleep wouldn't not come. So I ...more

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Aug 02, 2019 Liz rated it it was amazing

What an OUTSTANDING read! R.M. Gilmore was a completely new author to me when I picked up 17 Marigold Lane, but she will now be on my top fav list! I must check out all that is available from her now! This book is one that completely consumes you from the very first page to the last twist and turn to the end. I found myself so engrossed that I barely noticed the ticking hours well into the early morning hours, sleep be darned. I was so sad to see this end, but find solace in the fact that there ...more

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Aug 05, 2019 Debi rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

17 Marigold Lane (Prudence Penderhaus Book 1) by R.M. Gilmore

5+++++++ Stars

How is this my first book by this author?? An author who had me like completely hooked from page 1 of this book. There was a time while reading I was tripping over the words I was reading so fast, I wasn't skimming because you can't while reading this and you don't want to..it was quite a struggle there for a bit and I felt in some ways like I was literally in the story, like right next to Prudence, who by the way became ...more

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R.M. Gilmore is a paranormal and mystery/suspense writer and creator of the occult bestselling Dylan Hart series. She resides in the Pacific Northwest with her teenage minion, bearded man-child, and toys still in the box. With an awkward and incessant sense of humor, it is likely she will die laughing.

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