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Metazoa: Animal Life and the Birth of the Mind

3.89  ·  Rating details ·  920 ratings  ·  159 reviews
The scuba-diving philosopher who wrote Other Minds explores the origins of animal consciousness

Dip below the ocean’s surface and you are soon confronted by forms of life that could not seem more foreign to our own: sea sponges, soft corals, and serpulid worms, whose rooted bodies, intricate geometry, and flower-like appendages are more reminiscent of plant life or even arc
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Hardcover, 352 pages
Published November 10th 2020 by Farrar, Straus and Giroux (first published November 1st 2020)
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Petra would be happy if only love was bi-lateral
Small update I was reading other reviews, and those who don't like philosophy mixed in with their science don't like it so much. But thinking about consciousness - it's one of those things we know for 100% certain exists but no one knows where or can define exactly what it is and which creature has it and which definitely don't. So how can you leave out philosophy?
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I wish I hadn't read this book. The book is mind-expanding, paradigm-shifting as much from the philosophy as the
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D
Nov 24, 2020 rated it liked it
A bit superficial and too long. I learned some interesting concepts related to consciousness: experience, subjectivity, agency, sentient etc. And how these applied to various animal species. But no detail, e.g. a more detailed explanation of the role of genetics in evolution. There certainly were many entertaining descriptions of amazing types of animals. But, again, rather superficial. In the end I discovered that the author is a philosopher, that may explain his focus. My mistake.
Peter Tillman
Nov 08, 2020 marked it as to-read
Best review of this one I've seen yet, by an actual biologist, who's been a pretty reliable reviewer for me: https://inquisitivebiologist.com/2020...
Excerpt:
"Compared to Other Minds, Metazoa dives deeper into neurological and philosophical topics: qualia, pain, emotions, types of memory, and others. It is, altogether, a more challenging book, though in a stimulating way. I am not sure it will have the same wide appeal as Other Minds, but for those readers interested in joining him on his quest t
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Carl Safina
Nov 29, 2020 rated it really liked it
One of my newly favorite authors and thinkers returns again to consider what consciousness is and what creates the ability of an entity to experience sensations. We know that much of our brain and body does things "in the dark," directing and carrying out high and complex functions without our being aware of them and with no decision-making ability. We also know that part of our brain and the brains of many other species functions as what we can call a "mind," capable of creating experienced sen ...more
Lata
Dec 09, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: x2020-read
The author poses some really interesting questions about cognition by taking us from the development of single-celled creatures all the way to mammals. The author has an engaging style, and makes his material really interesting. He points to fossils and experiments performed with present day invertebrates to postulate behaviours and experiences of long-dead creatures, and from there to gradually build a picture of thinking and feeling based on actions, reactions and experiences.
The author refus
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Janne Sinkkonen
Nov 24, 2020 rated it it was amazing
(Listened, not read, which may affect my impressions.)

I have read both "Philosophy of Biology" and "Other Minds" from the author, and like his style, which is non-combative, often searching for a middle way or a synthesis. This book is a bit like Other Minds in that it mixes (often) tranquil diving scenes with more conceptual science and philosophy, in this case evolutionary history of animals, especially their movement, senses and associated implications to cognitive organisation. A carrying th
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Honey
Aug 20, 2021 rated it liked it
Fascinating insight into evolution and cognition.

I enjoyed reading this although the narrative gets a bit more philosophical than scientific.
Somehow made me think more of sentience vs sapience and what constitutes sense of self and being. I particularly liked how he gives a nod to nociception and how creatures we may discredit for certain senses actually have the ability to comprehend and act accordingly and consciously.

Admittedly, not as great as his other book, Other Minds. But still a very i
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The Inquisitive Biologist
Author of the bestseller Other Minds, Peter Godfrey-Smith returns to the topic of subjective experience, consciousness and minds, charting the evolution of life's ability to behold itself. Read my full review at https://inquisitivebiologist.com/2020... ...more
B. Rule
Some books have an urgency and necessity about them. This is not that kind of book. While there's nothing egregiously wrong about Godfrey-Smith's thinking, neither is there anything essential here that justifies the existence of the book. Godfrey-Smith is ostensibly building up a picture of how consciousness arose from the gradual accretion of components in animal minds, which he does primarily by haphazardly describing a few species he saw while futzing around in his hobby as a diver. You get d ...more
Dan Graser
Dec 01, 2020 rated it really liked it
I was pleasantly surprised by this volume from philosopher Peter Godfrey-Smith in that it brought some welcome clarity to the issue of consciousness and the origin of what we know to be the mind in the natural world. Oftentimes - and I realize how general a remark this is - philosophers discussing something that is mainly the province of scientists turns the discussion into a linguistic and syntactical rat's maze with no end and no conclusions, even if they manage to agree on terminology (they n ...more
Travis Rebello
Dec 20, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Diving into the waters of the mind once more

Metazoa is simply a stunning book. A mix of evocative underwater scenes, evolutionary storytelling, and philosophical exploration, it has got to be one of the most fascinating books I have read. Peter Godfrey-Smith builds here on his bestselling Other Minds, expanding both on the range of philosophical puzzles about the mind that are explored and the cast of creatures that join us in that exploration. He has a wonderful ability not only to capture the
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Stephen
Jan 03, 2021 rated it it was amazing
Epistemology is one of my many weak points. There were places in this wondrous book that waxed too philosophical for me to follow and I confess got skimmed. The new paleontology, the biology, the neuroscience, the animal behavior sections are moving and eye-opening They are also witty, as in the description of a shrimp with multiple appendages "a Swiss army knife" or of another shrimp with a head "festooned with golf clubs and party lights." The author describes an experiment showing that bees, ...more
Sophia
Jan 01, 2022 rated it it was amazing
So far, this is the only philosopher that not only can I stomach, but I genuinely enjoy reading and agree with his ideas. In this book he lays out the case for gradual sentience across species with a particular focus on sea creatures that could most resemble our evolutionary ancestors.

As with the first book, this is a really pleasant read that feels like watching a nature documentary, painting a picture of seascapes populated by the most amazing creatures. In between the discovery of different
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Glen Schroeder
Nov 05, 2021 rated it it was amazing
Godfrey-Smith seems to get a lot of flack for being a philosopher discussing biology. But I think the best works are interdisciplinary and often the ones that lead to new insights and fresh questions. For a philosopher, he knows his science (at least to the degree required by the subject matter). If you must critique those who write outside the bounds of their discipline, might I suggest Richard Dawkins.

All your favorite books that you’ve read throughout your life were about the human condition
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Tom Ewing
Oct 03, 2021 rated it really liked it
What is it like to be a bee? Or a shrimp, a sponge, an octopus, or any other animal? Godfrey-Smith’s exploration of this fascinating question is welcoming without being glib - he’s always careful to point out when he simply doesn’t know an answer. Which is often, as the central problems here - of where and when the animal capabilities of sensing and action shade into experiencing and a sense of self - are famously hard.

The book is strongest in its first half, advancing steadily through the bill
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Steve
Jan 02, 2021 rated it it was amazing
A wonderful book! Continues the exploration of consciousness he started in “Other Minds” by looking at other forms of life. Great combination of biology and philosophy of mind, with lots of reasoning based on evolutionary theory. Also, the author is a great observer of wildlife. Finally, I loved his writing style - he doesn’t lecture the reader, instead he brings you along on a voyage with him. He has a definite point of view, but he is humble and is respectful to those who he doesn’t agree with ...more
Melissa
Dec 21, 2020 rated it really liked it
I found this book fascinating. Consciousness is well within my area of expertise as a psychologist, but the further one advances in her education, the more specialized her focus becomes. Metazoa took me all the way back to the history and systems of psychology. I haven’t considered qualia in any meaningful fashion since I was an undergrad! Godfrey-Smith builds an argument, and the process is necessarily a bit tedious, but I learned a lot about consciousness/cognition/minimal cognition in non-mam ...more
Mo
Jan 07, 2022 rated it it was ok
Quite disappointed by this book. My high expectations after reading ‘Other Minds’ by the same author (read review here) weren’t met in the slightest. However, there was some interesting food for thought, so I’ll start off with that.

Subjects that interested me

- How animals went from passive eating (diffusion) to grazing to hunting
- How growing a bigger body in evolution could be achieved through either multiplying structures or enlarging them
- The crustacean body: adding body parts as a solu
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Helio
May 14, 2021 rated it really liked it
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Susan
Nov 19, 2020 rated it liked it
I so enjoyed Godfrey-Smith's "Other Minds," and was looking for something similar. I was surprised at his Australian accent, having read this book on Audio. I found parts of it, especially the part on Ions and the electrical aspects of mind....somewhat confusing for laymen like me. Listening further, I enjoyed the book, but found the subjects in Other Minds to be more concise and succinct. ...more
Katherine Jones
May 16, 2021 rated it really liked it
This was tough, I cannot be sure that I "got it." I am not a philosopher. This gave me quite a lot to think about. I am going to try to think more about it. A lot more. You might not think this has anything to do with racism or feminism or classism, or any other oppression between humans, but there's a section toward the end where a light just lit right up for me. Tomorrow I'll give the page numbers for that section, so you can see what you think. It was not by any means the point of this book, ...more
Alexander Sosnovshchenko
Oct 30, 2021 rated it really liked it
Shelves: evolution, mind, ai
It was a perfect audiobook to listen to on the beach in between snorkeling dives and during long walks in the forest. It also was a good companion for visiting a natural history museum and packing up my library for a move. It may be less gripping than some other nonfiction bestsellers, but that doesn't make it boring. It just means you need the right kind of atmosphere. Meditative regard of what consciousness is and what it can be and what it might have been in us and other living and not-living ...more
Anshuman Swain
Feb 15, 2021 rated it really liked it
An interesting journey into how consciousness, and sentience can be perceived in organisms around us from both philosophical and biological (both evolutionary and an ecological) viewpoints. I would have given it 5 stars, but gave it 4, as I felt the length of the book could have been shorter and the it be better structured. Overall, I feel it might be difficult to write a book like this and also not give the smaller sidetracked details that make th book noteworthy. (In this dilemma I feel it's a ...more
WheeldonHS
Firstly, this is a philosophical text and not a scientific text so it is quite light on science and heavy on philosophical speculation.

The author uses their interest in marine life to contemplate consciousness and the divide between the physical (tangible) and non-physical (intangible) self.

I really enjoyed the author's other work - "Other Minds" - however, I found this particular work to be somewhat aimless and less cohesive.

I also found the author's ideas to be somewhat unformed and wishy-wa
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Tom Walsh
Nov 29, 2021 rated it it was amazing
As in his book, Other Minds, a wonderful experience watching his mind work and his theories unfurl. More thoughts to follow, but my favorite takeaway is Our Mind is a Garden of things that arise and things that we furnish.

In this amazing book he traces the evolutionary journey of the rise of consciousness from sponges and soft corals through arthropods and cephalopods to Humans. Even more importantly he proposes a theory of the Human Experiential Profile that transcends the mechanical storm of
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Kxtera Meddins
Dec 14, 2021 rated it really liked it
some quotes I enjoyed...
- 'I might look like a bit of tissue paper, but right now I really have something to do'
- 'when in doubt, add some legs. add some spatulas to your head'
- 'penis fencing'
- 'seaweedily'
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Heather Browning
Peter Godfrey-Smith follows up his Other Minds with another book bringing together his personal experiences scuba-diving with underwater creatures with an account of the evolution of consciousness. This book takes the scene more broadly than just cephalopods, with stories of (among others) fish, crabs, anemones and shrimp framing the scientific and philosophical discussion. His aim is to try and address the 'hard problem' of consciousness (why conscious experience feels like anything at all), an ...more
K. Ira
Jan 01, 2021 rated it it was amazing
I read this immediately after Other minds. I didn't get the feel of major unnecessary overlap.

He attempts to go further along his original concepts of consciousness and the mind and includes various animal life instead of focusing on octopi.

After the first book, this one did not fall short of expectations.
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Kathleen
Dec 26, 2020 rated it really liked it
An informative, readable study of the origins of subjective experience in animals. This meeting of philosophy and science is engaging and thought-provoking.
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I grew up in Sydney, Australia. My undergraduate degree is from the University of Sydney, and I have a PhD in philosophy from UC San Diego. I taught at Stanford University between 1991 and 2003, a
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