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What the Other Three Don't Know

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Will I still be loved if I show people who I really am?

Four high school seniors. Four secrets about to be told.

If Indie had it her way, she would never choose to river raft with three other high school seniors, mostly strangers to each other, from her journalism class.

A loner, a jock, an outsider, an Instagram influencer. At first they can’t see anything that they
Hardcover, 224 pages
Expected publication: March 3rd 2020 by Shadow Mountain
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Sofii♡ (A Book. A Thought.)

I want to thank NetGalley & Shadow Mountain for providing me with a copy in exchange for an honest review.

This book was a bit disappointing being honest, I hoped to enjoy it much more. I like the promise a lot, it sounds simple but it keeps a lot of feelings and discussions about loss, sexuality, and social stereotypes. And although it sounds very promising ends up being quite flat.



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PinkAmy loves books, cats and naps
***Thanks to NetGalley for providing me a complimentary copy of WHAT THE OTHER THREE DON’T KNOW by Spencer Hyde in exchange for my honest review.***

Four very different teens dealing with various challenges/secrets on a school trip.

Since Karen McManus’s wildly successful ONE OF US IS LYING, other books have tried to use the same Breakfast Club framework of storytelling. Unfortunately , the blurb for WHAT THE OTHER THREE DON’T KNOW is the best part of Spencer Hyde’s sophomore effort.

Anne Pauline
Dec 22, 2019 rated it liked it
** this ARC was provided by the publisher in exchange for a honest review

I have a soft spot for stories about opposite characters who finally set aside their differences to help each other and become friends. ‘What the Other Three Don’t Know’ is a great example of what I like in a ‘coming to terms’ YA story.

I was first afraid to be a bit bored by the set up in a forest/river for a camping trip but I surprisingly enjoyed it. The nature brought a strange set up - both calm and dangerous -
Moony MeowPoff
Jan 09, 2020 rated it did not like it
I think it's great that so many books that has focus on mental health, gets published, but this one fell kind of flat to me.
I had high hopes for it, but i did not warm up to Indie and was mostly annoying by her narrating, and i just felt meh about the whole book. But i am glad, i gave it a try.
Andria Sedig
Dec 01, 2019 rated it really liked it
Shelves: read-in-2019
I really loved the blend of YA contemporary, survival, and heartwarming beats within this novel. I felt like, at first, I didn't enjoy the cast of characters but as their layers pealed back I found myself loving them more and more. Indie's journey of coming to terms with her mother's death felt natural and poignant. I really appreciated that each character had something unsuspected about them, showing that people can't be judged by appearances (which is exactly what Indie was doing). I enjoyed ...more
Feb 23, 2020 rated it liked it
Indie is our main narrator in this book. She is going on a trip to a river with classmates from her journalism class. In the eyes of the society the four of them are a loner, a jock, a outsider and an instagram influencer. We find out the through the story what you appear to think about a person isn’t always true and everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about which is true for each of the characters in this book. I did like how the author showed each characters battle and and ...more
Amanda B
Feb 11, 2020 rated it it was ok
I really wanted to like this. I enjoy the framework of the “Breakfast Club” type story. But I’ve read a couple books like this within the last year and I guess I feel it’s kind of overdone.

I never really connected with the characters, although I did appreciate Indie’s quiet strength.

I liked the setting and nature metaphors, but honestly I couldn’t wait for this book to be finished so I could move onto something more realistic.

Thanks to NetGalley for the ARC!
Jan 31, 2020 rated it liked it
Shelves: kindle, march-2020, arc
Thank you to Netgalley and the publisher for sending me a copy of the book in exchange for an honest review!

A group of kids experiencing something dangerous together and learning about their darkest secrets? I was here for it. I wanted to learn all of their secrets.

I don’t feel like I learned much about any of the characters, though, beyond surface-level characteristics. Like I know that Indie has curly hair, lots of freckles, and has a very angsty attitude. She doesn’t take shit from people,
Feb 05, 2020 rated it liked it
This story still leaves me with an unsettled feeling. Three teens are thrown together for a school trip that I didn't quite understand. It was for a class but I have never heard of a class that required that type of trip in high school. I realize it's fiction, but . . . The different groups that each of the kids came from sure made for an interesting group. Then the secrets each of them had added to the mix. It showed very well that we don't know what the person standing next to us is struggling ...more
Dec 27, 2019 rated it liked it
Shelves: arc
I got an ARC of this book via NetGalley in exchange for an honest review.

First disclaimer: if you're a dumbass like me and you read the synopsis and think this is a girl-group book: it isn't. It's two girls and two boys. Just in case you were looking for wlw rep and stumbled across this and thought this was it.

What would've made this book an automatic 5 stars for me is having a more character study perspective. These are four kids stuck in a dangerous school trip with a guide that one of them
Feb 20, 2020 rated it really liked it
Shelves: h
This is a powerful book about forgiveness and being who you really are. It is written for young adults and I think teens will relate well to the characters. I cared about Indie after just the first two pages of the book and wanted to find out what would happen to her. She’s a 17 year old girl who lives with her grandpa in a tiny town because her dad left them and her mom died in a rafting accident. Her grandpa is the town mortician and drives the hearse when they go on trips. Indie thinks this ...more
Feb 03, 2020 rated it really liked it
Quick read. I’m not a YA reader but I‘ve read Spencer Hyde’s writings and heard him speak and I always love his thoughts. I got an early proof of this and really liked it. Superficially, it’s a nice story about learning to feel accepted when you perceive yourself as “other.” Really, it has some beautiful allusions to classic literature and philosophy that may be overlooked. It’s interesting, I think many readers will judge this book on its contribution to the YA movement that seeks to give voice ...more
Emily Flynn
Jan 27, 2020 rated it really liked it
When I selected this book on Netgalley, I wasn't sure what to expect. I loved that it was set in the state that I love above all others.

This coming of age story follows Indie. Indie lives with her grandpa after her parents' deaths. She is trying to cope with the loss of her mom on the river that she has been assigned for a class trip. She doesn't think she is ready, but the trip is for a class that she really wants to take and so she goes accompanied by three classmates. Their guide turns out
Feb 20, 2020 rated it really liked it
I was immediately drawn into this story. Four teenagers are required to do a survival style outdoors trip as part of their high education. I had to fight against myself at the beginning of the story because if I went to their school, I would have refused to go on such a dangerous trip and transferred to a school with out that requirement.

The scenery was amazing in its description, I felt like I was watching a movie set in the Snake River Valley of Idaho. The Snake River and mountains were like
Caitlyn Martin
Feb 06, 2020 rated it it was ok
Shelves: ya, 2020, ebook, arc, letdown
I received an advanced copy of this book from All thoughts are my own.

I wanted so badly to like this book. I was so excited to read it! The premise is one that I fall for again and again: a group of teens who think they have each other perfectly boxed in are forced to spend time with one another and ultimately realize that they're not so different after all. Basically, I'll pick up any book that resembles The Breakfast Club. Based on the summary, I figured that What the Other
Molly - Baltimore Bibliophile
What the Other Three Don't Know tells the tale of 4 high school students who are going rafting down the rapids over summer vacation as part of a class they are taking in the next school year. Each student has their own drama, which we learn for about as the book goes on. The students are not friends, so it has a "Breakfast Club" type feel to it because of how they don't get along in the beginning.

I have to say, this book did not do it for me. I was struggling to get through the first half and
Dec 22, 2019 rated it really liked it
This was a very interesting story. The style was such that even when things were intense the pace felt slow. I read it in an afternoon and enjoyed it, but would have loved it to have more depth and character development. It told of the characters’ flaws and events in the past and present, but didn’t really spend much time on feelings.

I wanted more at the end to know what would happen to the characters, but did like the transformation and forgiveness that took place. Also, it was very good to be
Feb 20, 2020 rated it liked it
Shelves: arcs, lgbtqia-rep
"Because even those we once hated can show us how to love. Because choices will always exist, and when they present themselves, I hope to always reach for the right hand. Because forgiveness is the real river we run in this life."

Although at times slow and underwhelming, What the Other Three Don't Know still delivers what was promised in the blurb. It sends a powerful message to young readers about the assumptions and the importance of looking beyond the facade of another. Certain reps leave
Shelby Johnson
Feb 16, 2020 rated it it was amazing
What an absolutely outstanding read for young adults. Often times throughout the story I felt as if I was on the river, sitting with the characters. Feeling their joy, sadness, confusion, and fear. Spencer addresses one of the biggest issues young adults deal with today; how to fit in with your peers and hide who you really are. As he brings to light each character, I felt as if I understood the pain each one suffered as often times in my own life I wanted to try and change who I was meant to ...more
Jan 25, 2020 rated it liked it
Thanks to Net Galley and Shadow Mountain Publishing for the ARC of this book. My first impression was great. It means a lot to me when an author can catch my attention right away! It is about Four teenagers on a river trip, with each of them having their own story and struggles. I liked Indie from the start a lot, and found her struggles real and relatable. I like how her memories of her mom make an impact on her along the way. The other characters i didn’t care about as much. I love YA books, ...more
Feb 22, 2020 rated it liked it
Shelves: netgalley
This book was a bit of a struggle for me. While I know that this is a YA book, it read a bit younger than I was expecting. I didn’t really feel any connection with the characters and couldn’t really get into for about the first half. Had this not been a NetGalley read, I likely would have given up. I’m glad that I didn’t- the book really ended up picking up and I really liked the second half. I hope that the target age group for this book connect more with the characters than I did. Each of the ...more
Kimberly (kimberly_reads)
Feb 15, 2020 rated it really liked it
Shelves: favorites, 2020-reads
Thank you to NetGalley for allowing me to read an arc of this book in exchange for a honest review!

I throughly enjoyed this story. I appreciate how much the author poured aspects of themselves into the book and I just could tell that there was such a personal touch as I was reading. I found all of the characters to be well written and dynamic, I even was surprised at times to see how much detail was put into each individual character (such as some of the characters interests and how they lit up
Jan 27, 2020 rated it liked it
* Thank you Shadow Mountain Publishing and NetGalley for this ARC in exchange for my honest feedback. *

This book is a little bit Breakfast Club, a little bit The River, and a little bit One of Us is Lying. I loved all three of those so this intrigued me. The beginning was a bit slow, but I was interested in Indie and her story. I didn't really get invested in the other characters or find Indie's newfound bond with them believable. It just felt too rushed. I did enjoy the action/survival sequence
Jan 12, 2020 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: arc
Thanks to Net Galley and Shadow Mountain Publishing for the ARC of this book. My first impression was great. It means a lot to me when an author can catch my attention right away! I liked Indie a lot and found her struggles real and relatable. The other characters maybe not so much. I love YA books, and I have teenagers and listen to them talk to their friends all the time and I have to say that they don’t talk like these kids. So that made the story less appealing as it went on. Maybe if I were ...more
Denai Piscopo
Jan 27, 2020 rated it it was amazing
I really liked this book. 2 girls, 2 guys on a school camping/rafting trip. Some harrowing experiences, some coming out of their shells and i guess finding themselves or even choosing their new paths for senior year. In parts my heart ached for the main character Indie, and others it soared for her. I read this book all in a day and was putting off things so i could finish it. Great book that I will definitely look for this author again.
Cindy Hyde
Feb 05, 2020 rated it it was amazing
I couldn’t put this book down. I love how Hyde talks about the weight we carry when we carry secrets, when we carry the burden of hate. All the energy we waste trying to hold onto things or feelings that can be let go and in doing so frees us to be who we really are. I think this a book everyone should read. I began to think of what I was holding onto that could be let free, I want to feel what Indie felt, like a huge weight has been lifted, and I just need to see it right to let it go.
Jan 28, 2020 rated it it was amazing
Indie lives with her Grandpa after her father leaves and her mother dies in a rafting accident. Indie was assigned for a class trip on the same river and is not sure she can do this.

"Everything and everyone deserves to be sought after and known."

This story reminded me of The Breakfast Club! I really enjoyed this novel.
Thank you to Publisher and NetGalley for this eARC
Feb 23, 2020 rated it it was amazing
While captivating me with rafting, fly fishing and climbing adventures, Hyde told me a story of acceptance, forgiveness and courage. Hyde’s skilled use of comparison and other literary devices made the story real and relatable. Excellent character development - I felt like I knew them personally. 5 stars.
Amanda Arkans -
Jan 26, 2020 rated it really liked it
Shelves: netgalley
A very quick read with a wonderful message. I only wish I knew more about rafting and climbing because I think I really would have appreciated that additional layer to this book.

Thank you to NetGalley for my advanced copy of this book in exchange for my honest opinion.
Jan 30, 2020 added it
DNF’d @ 10%. Nothing was holding my interest, unfortunately.

Thanks to NetGalley & publisher for providing me with an ARC
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Spencer Hyde spent three years of his high school experience visiting Johns Hopkins for severe OCD. He feels particularly suited to write Waiting for Fitz because he’s lived through his protagonists’ obsessions.

Spencer worked at a therapeutic boarding school before earning his MFA in Utah and his PhD in Texas, specializing in fiction. He wrote Waiting for Fitz while working as a Teaching Fellow