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Foundation's Triumph

(Second Foundation Trilogy #3)

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Isaac Asimov's Foundation Trilogy is one of the highwater marks of science fiction.The monumental story of a Galactic Empire in decline and a secret society of scientists who seek to shorten the coming Dark Age with tools of Psychohistory, Foundation pioneered many themes of modern science fiction.Now, with the approval of the Asimov estate, three of today's most acclaimed ...more
Paperback, 392 pages
Published June 1st 2000 by HarperTorch (first published 1999)
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Ethan I. Solomon
I think that giving two stars to any of the books from this trilogy is actually being very generous, and is mostly because of the names involved and thus the quality they brought to the books. Nevertheless the books are a complete failure despite being set in Asimov's universe. The authors attempted to bring some of Asimov's genius to the table but were unable to convey their ideas in the gloriously simple and direct fashion that Asimov could. As a result the entire trilogy is extremely convolut ...more
Daniel McGill
Aug 04, 2011 rated it liked it
By far the best of the "new foundation trilogy" but I do not recommend reading the series, the guy who wrote the fist book did so much damage to the story to the point of not even using Asimov's physics that between them even Brin and the guy who wrote the middle book couldn't undo it all. Only read if you're a fanatical completionist. ...more
Sarah
Jul 02, 2007 rated it it was ok
Brin has some very interesting ideas in this book, but I think overall it's very poorly executed. He turns Daneel into a crazed megalomaniac and makes the robots responsible for the entire course of human history, and he attempts to explain Asimov's other books in terms of this robot theory, which is an interesting concept, but I think Asimov would be rolling in his grave. This was also just really difficult to get into, and confusing to try to keep track of who was on which side when, who was b ...more
Henry Herz
Mar 12, 2014 rated it it was amazing
This is the third installment of a post-Asimov Foundation trilogy. Consider the honor bestowed on Dr. Brin - being entrusted with this revered sci-fi classic. And he delivers the goods. He expands upon the Foundation universe in seamless fashion - I could easily have believed this was a newly discovered Asimov manuscript. The writing is smart and heartfelt. I found myself moved by the relationship between Hari and Dors. And I shared the characters' frustration when enormous archives of knowledge ...more
Jeremiah Johnson
Apr 01, 2014 rated it it was ok
This book was better than the previous two in this trilogy, but that isn't saying much.
Brin's writing is far superior to the other two authors, but I still couldn't get into the story. To his credit, they didn't leave him anything good to work with.
I am very torn over the notion that the robots were in charge of everything that happened throughout the Empire's history. While it makes sense and is believable, it doesn't seem like it is true to what Asimov's vision for the universe was.
The charact
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John Derderian
Feb 13, 2011 rated it liked it
This was the best of the 3B trilogy, and the only one that felt at all in the spirit of Asimov's originals. You probably have to read the other two to really appreciate this one, and I can't really recommend that. ...more
Phil Giunta
Mar 18, 2011 rated it really liked it
Isaac Asimov's classic Foundation series comes to a conclusion in a trilogy of novels each written by different noted SF authors. David Brin adequately delivers the final entry, Foundation's Triumph, with similar pacing and style as Greg Bear's Foundation and Chaos. Like Bear, Brin minimizes story elements introduced in Gregory Benford's opening book, Foundation's Fear. I was grateful for that, since Benford's 600 page sleeper was a disappointment and could have been trimmed by half.

I described
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Colleen
Oct 17, 2010 rated it liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
Brin's a good writer and I really liked Asimov's Foundation Trilogy when I read it in college, but I didn't particularly like this extension of the original. I guess utopias have lost their appeal. I didn't realize how devoid of action the original foundation books were. And this book was mostly conversations and theory. The omnicient computers run the universe and humans just have to follow their dictates. They've determined that some humans must be eliminated for the majority to be happy. Not ...more
Jean Corbel
Dec 01, 2019 rated it liked it
Shelves: sf
Neither the (dated) perspective and style of Asimov nor the challenging universe of the Uplift universe of Brin. All in all, very desapointing and verbose - for a master like Brin.
Lis Carey
Jan 12, 2011 rated it really liked it
Shelves: f-sf
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Jen
May 24, 2014 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is it! I have finished my Asimov Foundation challenge. It only took me two years!

Foundation's Triumph picked up right where Foundation and Chaos left off. Hari Seldon isn't yet dead, though he really ought to be at this point. Hari doesn't have any real strategic plot importance other than to bear witness to the actual planning that would be/is revealed later-in-time-but-earlier-in-series-reading-order in Foundation and Earth. Since you are supposed to have read that novel first, it should
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Brian
Aug 24, 2012 rated it liked it
When a favourite author writes in a favourite universe, you hope the results will be awesome. Unfortunately it was just "meh". Asimov's Hari Seldon molded the future of the galaxy and mankind as he knew it into his own vision of perfection. Brin's Seldon refuses to do the same. The situations, backgrounds and major players keep setting up to be special and repeatedly fall short.
Don't get me wrong, Brin doesn't slight Asimov's work, he just takes it in a direction that doesn't work for me. Maybe
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Christopher Page
Nov 28, 2017 rated it it was ok
It was pretty annoying to see that every time the author referenced who as speaking or what not he had to explain who they were or why they were significant, every single time. I don't recall if it was this way in the in the entire book, but it definitely was in the second half. Pay attention to when he references Sybil, or Joan, the repeated description/details of characters that we are well aware of drove me nuts. ...more
Szymon Myalski
Apr 23, 2015 rated it really liked it
Shelves: polish
This book gathers amazing collection of loosely connected threads from many Asimov's book, stitch them together and makes it all consistent and logical. It is a great achievement. David Brin finally made all Asimov's stories I know into one big and detailed history of over 20 000 years. And explained how difficult, demanding but also despotic was R. Daneel Olivaw's role in it. ...more
Rob
Aug 02, 2015 rated it it was amazing
The best of the Second Foundation Trilogy, picking up a number of the threads - or, as a prequel, putting them in place - that Asimov deployed in the original trilogy and the follow-up books; and, I'd have thought, pretty in line with the way Asimov developed the series after the first trilogy. ...more
Roddy Williams
‘As for me, I am finished.’

With these words, a frail, dying Hari Seldon completes his life’s work. The old man has just recorded messages for the Time Vault of the First Foundation. And psychohistory’s Seldon Plan is unleashed, propelled by the ponderous momentum of destiny.
Younger hands will now take up the task.

But Seldon knows that neither the First nor the Second Foundation will provide ultimate solutions. The Seldon Plan has three possible outcomes. None of them fills him with joy but he
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Elizabeth R.
Feb 03, 2021 rated it it was amazing
Wow. Just ... wow. (No exclamation points. One doesn't bounce up and down while digesting such a feast.)

Brin's talent and genius carried the day once again. We admit to our faith having been shaken upon reading some of the crankier reviews as we got started, but we needn't have worried. It's hard to know what to write without spoiling -- not just the plot but some of the philosophy reveals, uncertainties, and more.

Haters gonna hate, but diversity must prevail. <3

A fine and worthy closure, at le
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Mark Rabideau
Mar 20, 2019 rated it really liked it
This is an enjoyable conclusion to the 2nd Foundation Trilogy. This 6th novel brings the Foundation "History' to a logical pause while leaving numerous openings for future authors to carry the 'series' further. The Second Foundation Trilogy is an entertaining & worthwhile read albeit not up to the original series standards set by Issac Asimov. ...more
Tim
Sep 04, 2018 rated it liked it
This book tied the ends left loose by the other two, which was nice. The much needed admittance of the Chaos factor was nice as well.

Was this trilogy necessary: No.

Was this trilogy worth reading: For die-hard Asimov fans maybe; for everyone else, no.
Sean
Feb 02, 2021 rated it it was amazing
Brin ties together the atrocious Benford novel and Bear's novel with the Robots and other novels, and basically tries to answer all the remaining questions from previous books. He does a decent job of it. ...more
Joshua Stager
Aug 12, 2017 rated it really liked it
A worthy addition to the Asimov universe, and the best book of the Second Foundation Trilogy
Rob Markley
Sep 26, 2017 rated it it was ok
Shelves: scifi
I was really looking forward to this series given the quality of the authors, but it just didn't work. ...more
Thomas
Oct 03, 2014 rated it liked it
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Thomas Dachsel
Dec 12, 2016 rated it really liked it
Shelves: asimov
Having finished all three of the Second Foundation Trilogy volumes, I have to say that the last volume did not leave that good impression on me as other reviewers write. Mr. Brin tries to explain *all* of the Foundation history, including the entirety of the Robots and Empire backstory at once, but this is just too much for one book. Especially the robots and their various factions come across as very convoluted, and I wonder why all of this was really necessary. By including the Gaia and Galaxi ...more
Michael
Jul 01, 2008 rated it really liked it
Recommends it for: fans of the Foundation books; David Brin fans
I spotted this in our local used bookstore as I was looking for new books by David Brin. "He's written a Foundation novel???" Hmmm.... I like Isaac Asimov, and I like David Brin. Let's give 'er a try!

I was not disappointed. Brin's writing was crisp and a pleasure to read. I did not read these three books of the Second Foundation Trilogy in order, and I'm glad I did not. For readers of Asimov's Foundation books, these books fill in some gaps in the story in the years leading up to Hari Seldon's d
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Jeff Crosby
It has been over a decade since I read the first two volumes of this new Foundation trilogy. I liked Foundation's Fear by Gregory Benford, but I disliked Greg Bear's Foundation and Chaos. So, I never picked up this final volume until now. I'm glad it finally caught my attention. The opening chapters draw together the threads from the first two novels, setting up an interesting premise. The first two thirds of the book are very engaging, but it gets lost as we reveal conspiracy after conspiracy-- ...more
Kip
May 09, 2008 rated it liked it
Got these three (Second Foundation Trilogy) from a friend. Been a long time since I read the Foundation or robot stories from Asimov, so I was eager to jump back into the story.

All three authors did a good job remaining true to the original timelines, major events and characters. That said, you could tell this was sort of filler. Should have expected that, right?

Has motivated me to go back and read some of the robot stories again -- lots of robot activity in all three of these.

* Couldn't finish
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Rachel
Mar 30, 2014 rated it did not like it
Shelves: fantasy-sci-fi
I had a lot of problems with this book. Instead of building upon the first two books, it's like David Brin said, "Oh my gosh! I have to use everything Asimov has ever written to prove I've read his books!" There were so many story details and lines that were utterly irrelevant. It was really, really poorly done. Thanks to Brin, I think I understand Asimov's Foundation universe less than when I began! A massive disappointment.

On a side note, I was really troubled by his regular use of the phrase,
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Manuel Barrera
It is difficult to write behind somebody else's conceptions of the universe. If anyone could, it might be David Brin, Greg Bear, or Greg Benford. Foundation's Triumph is a case in point of that difficulty. Although I found the story plausible in the Asimov universe, Brin simply could not keep himself to that conception and bleeds his worldview--well done, but ultimately stilted and uninspiring. I am sorry to say because beyond Asimov, Brin is likely one of if not Asimov's successor. I look forwa ...more
Garrett
Aug 29, 2012 rated it it was amazing
I applaud Brin for closing this trilogy in Asimov's universe on a high-note. The other books left me a little disappointed, but this one felt closer to Asimov's tendencies and ideas. However, one of Asimov's failings is the lack of action, and this book also suffered from that a bit - too much time in meditation and talk and not enough action by the humans. Of course, perhaps that is part of the point being made. But I expected more from HAri, even if he is 90 years old ;-) ...more
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