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Kirby & Lee: Stuf' Said! (Expanded Second Edition)

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For its 75th issue, the Jack Kirby Collector magazine presents this first-of-its-kind examination of the creators of the Marvel Universe, in an oversize book! It looks back at their own words, in chronological order, from fanzine, magazine, radio, and television interviews, to paint a picture of Jack Kirby and Stan Lee’s relationship―why it succeeded, where it deteriorated ...more
Paperback, 176 pages
Published October 22nd 2019 by Two Morrows Publishing (first published January 8th 2019)
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David Allen Jones
Well-researched if rather repetitious examination (drawn from interviews, anecdotes, and previously published articles) of the often fractious working relationship between two (and in some cases, more) of the main creators behind Marvel Comics, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby; whether you are a Lee hater or Kirby admirer or vice versa, you'll find plenty of facts and opinions to help you decide exactly who deserves the credit for the genesis of the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, and many other characters t ...more
Eamonn Murphy
Jun 22, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The Jack Kirby Collector # 75 is a special book-sized issue entitled ‘Kirby And Lee: Stuf’ Said!’ It’s an attempt by publisher John Morrow to tell the history of the creation of Marvel Comics in their words, mostly, of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.

There are lots of other words included, not least those of Mister Morrow himself who interjects comments throughout to put the quotations in context. Any speculations on his part are accompanied by a diagram of a salt shaker to warn that, in the interests o
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Fraser Sherman
This one's strictly for comic book nerds, and fairly hardcore nerds at that. But I'm one myself, so I found it rewarding, if repetitious.
Using quotes from interviews over the years, Morrow looks at the relationship, personal and professional, between Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, the pillars of Marvel's Silver Age glory years (Steve Ditko's in there too). Both men have claimed to be the real creator of the Fantastic Four, Thor, Spider-Man, X-Men; as Morrow shows, that's because the Marvel Method allo
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Peter Landau
Add or subtract a star if you’re into the history of Marvel comic or couldn’t care less about who did the lion share of creation in originating these superheroes. I fall into the former category, having grown up reading the work of Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko. When I was a kid a friend asked if I liked the art or the stories more. I liked the art, though the stories obviously pulled me in. The older I get, the less interesting the stories are and the more beloved is the artwork. I used ...more
Daniel Taylor
Apr 21, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: comics, non-fiction
This is a rich, thought-provoking history of the creation of the Marvel Comics phenomenon. Inevitably, it must also address the whole of Jack Kirby's and Stan Lee's careers, as well as much of Steve Ditko's and even Martin Goodman's in passing. The fact that it does so in fewer than ten thousand pages is a tribute to the author/compiler, John Morrow, who must have read far more pages than that to produce this historical analysis. If you've ever wondered why Kirby left Marvel at the apparent heig ...more
David Macpherson
A well put together arguement of who created the Marvel Universe. The words of the creators are used to make the case that Kirby and Ditko were more responsible for the work than Stan Lee. This was published right around the time Lee died and everyone praised him up and down, meanwhile, I was trudging through this volume that shows pretty well that it was his artists that did the creating. The book is not a real fun read. There is a lot of repetition and long passages from forgotten interviews, ...more
Roy DeRousse
Feb 02, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The main issues are who created and who wrote the Marvel stories and characters during the 1960s.
Spanning decades, there a many quotes from Lee, Kirby, Ditko and others along with some contextual and editorial comments. Lots of repetition but done with a purpose. Not for the casual fan, but excellent at achieving its goals.
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