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Rich Man, Poor Man (Rich man, poor man)

4.15  ·  Rating details ·  29,126 Ratings  ·  279 Reviews
Irwin Shaw's novel is about the American dream - as it begins in the struggles of an immigrant father and as it continues in the next generation's search for grace.

It tells the story of two brothers and sister - the children of an embittered, impoverished German baker - growing up in a small town near New York City as World War II is drawing to a close.

They are:
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Hardcover, 635 pages
Published 1977 by George Weidenfeld & Nicholson (first published 1969)
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Sep 13, 2011 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
At the time that I read this, way back in high school days, I’m sure I would’ve given it the full five stars. I hadn’t thought much about it since. Then, a few weeks ago, as I was reminiscing about it with my culturally astute wife, her comment was something like, “Oh yea, wasn’t that a night-time soap?” Thinking back, I suppose it was. They made a mini-series out of it that featured a young Nick Nolte as the black sheep brother – the edgier one, quick with his fists.

I recall getting caught up
Mark R.
Jan 09, 2008 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is the fourth, and best, book I've read by Irwin Shaw, and having completed it, I feel that it will be a good idea for me to read everything else he ever wrote. There are many ideas and themes related throughout the course of its 600 or so pages that made me stop and think before continuing reading, and that made me think later on in the day, or the next day.

The story follows two brothers and a sister, all very different, and how their lives affect each other throughout the course of a quar
Shahr Baran
Mar 04, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
این کتاب را من با نام داراوندار ترجمه اقای مهدی افشار خواندم ..رمانی جذاب وخوشخوان از داستانهای امریکایی ..
داستان با جنگ جهانی دوم به سال 1945 آغاز میشود ..داستان واقعگراست ویک خانواده امریکایی را به نمایش میکشد .خانواده ای که در پی یک سری حوادث در روابط پنهان واشکار با بیرون وجامعه پیوند میخورند .در نهایت کیفیت وجودی جامعه امریکایی را برای ما نشان میدهند ..یعنی نویسنده باز افرینی واقعیت میکند ایرون شاو با زبردستی وتوانایی خاص نفسیات خانوداه جورداش را در بخش های جداگانه که در عین حال به طور قدرت
Karen M
Sep 20, 2011 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: series, fiction
If only all books were this good.

The story of three siblings who started life in a dysfunctional family, each with their own personality, striving for a better life.

The eldest, Gretchen, who accepted help from a wealthy man and willingly paid his price, ends up becoming an independent woman but only after many years have passed.

Rudolph, the golden child not just to his mother but also to other people as he climbs the ladder of success with hardwork and honesty which can't save him from great dis
Ahmad Sharabiani
Rich Man, Poor Man, 1969/1970 Irwin Shaw
عنوان: دارا و ندار جلد 1 از سه جلد؛ اثر: ایروین شاو؛ مترجم: مهدی افشار؛ تهران، آپادانا، 1363؛ چاپ دیگر: تهران، نشر نگرش، 1368؛ موضوع: داستانهای نویسندگان امریکایی قرن 20 م
چاپ دیگر: تهران، گلبانگ، 1378، شابک: دوره: 9647004249؛ جلد 1: 9647004213 جلد 2: 9647004222؛ جلد 3: 9647004230؛
چاپ دیگر: تهران، پورشاد، 1379؛ شابک دوره: 9646498159؛ جلد 1: 9646498213؛ جلد 2: 9646498264؛ جلد 3: 9646498272؛
چاپ دیگر: تهران، سپهر فاطمی، 1382؛ شابک دوره: 9649501444؛ جلد 1: 96
Христо Блажев
Богат, беден, вечен:

Както за “Дракула” на Брам Стокър, така и за “Богат, беден” на Ъруин Шоу не виждам смисъл да пиша обичайно ревю, в което да се отнасям в обяснения за сюжета, неговите течения, водовъртежи и дълбини. Тая книга е много лична за мен – в изданието, което виждате долу вдясно (мнозина ще го разпознаят с лекота), съм я чел поне седем-осем пъти, и дълго време я считах за любима своя книга (после дойдоха “Сянката на вятъра”, “Мидълсекс”, “Добро
Steven Kent
Like so many Americans in the 70s, I fell into Shaw's grasp after seeing the mini-series version of Rich Man, Poor Man. As I understand it, this was the first mini series. It was soon followed by Roots, Winds of War, about a dozen Sidney Sheldon stories, and more.

After seeing the mini series I read the book and found fell in love with it. This is the story of two brothers, one is a good student, a natural leader, and destined for the good life. The other is a trouble maker and a gifted fighter.

Renee Rosen
Nov 11, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Here's another book that turned up on my newsfeed and I was reminded of how much I enjoyed this novel when I read it decades ago. Even if the writing didn't blow me away, I couldn't help being swept up by the story and the characters. It's just plain great storytelling.
Хванах книгата вчера за леко четиво преди лягане . . . голяма грешка, няма оставяне!
Anya Aksarova
Sep 27, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Если провести аналогию между писателями и стрелками, то Ирвина Шоу несомненно можно назвать снайпером-чемпионом. В первый раз я прочитала этот роман когда мне было совсем не много лет. И на тот момент я конечно же не могла всецело обьять весь тот пульсирующий поток времени и меняющиеся вместе с ним настроения Америки. Я очень внимательно вчитывалась в биографию всем давно полюбившихся героев. И совершенно напрасно это делала.

Дело в том, что та конкретика с которой Ирвин Шоу рассказывает о каждом
So sad I didn't read it when it was a huge success back in the 90's because now, even when I really enjoyed, it seemed to me a little old fashioned. It's catchy and you get involved in it, but the style and the story itself seems so... 90's! The typical american story of success, with the "dark" side of poverty and failure, portrayed in the "poor man". This last one, Thomas, ended up being, in my opinion, the most wonderful character. Not only because of his final sacrifice, but because he seeme ...more
Hamed pourkabir
دارا و ندار حکایت داستان زندگی یک خانواده فقیر(جورداش) که شباهت زیادی با زندگی یا اجتماع همه ما داره رو تعریف می کنه و لذا سریع می تونیم با شخصیت های داستان همزاد پنداری کرده و ارتباط برقرار کنیم. واقع گرا بودن داستان سهم بسزایی در موفقیتش داشته و زاویه و منظری که انتخاب شده هم به نظرم خیلی خوب بوده (همه چیز از نگاه یک خانواده معمولی و فقیر). این که در طول داستان مدام روایت داستان دست به دست میشه هم جزو امتیازات مثبتش هست هر چند که به نظرم شخصیت اول داستان از نظر میزان پرداختن به وی و میزان تأثی ...more
Georgi Dimitrov
May 07, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Книгата ми хареса изключително много и дори самият факт, че изгубих доста сън покрай четеното и по време на сесия би бил достатъчно потвърждение на предното твърдение. Хареса ми това, че Ъруин Шоу изгражда образите на героите си в такъв детайл, че с малко повече фантазия, буквално може да си представиш, че тези герои съществуват в реалния свят. "Богат, беден" е една от малкото книги, след чиито прочит почувствах онази характерна празнина, когато историята с любим герой свърши, а тук бяха цяло се ...more
Victoria Evangelina Belyavskaya

I read the book in Russian, and span through its 500+ pages in a couple of days: it is such an easy, vivid read, and the characters really drew me in. I kept on expecting more drama, though, more of conclusion... I guess, the genius of the book is in the characters, who, with their strengths and weaknesses are just people. They are not "archetypes" but simple people, traumatized by the childhood in different degrees and coping with it through their lives as they can and see possible. I liked Rud
Gergana Karadjova
Закъснял прочит. Три звезди и половина "по номинална стойност", както казва в предговора Д. Иванов
Jun 12, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Магията на книгата се крие именно в универсалността на сюжета. Читателят лесно може да се припознае в персонажите, да се влюби в тях, да ги заобича и по този начин да съпреживее случващото се до степен на личен катарзис. Езикът на Шоу е простичък наглед, но абсолютно стилистично издържан, а именно благодарение на този изказ (макар и тежък и не винаги особено оптимистичен) романът не допуска оставянето му. Атмосферата засмуква във водовъртежа на събитията и читателят се оказва прелистващ страниц ...more
Jun 20, 2007 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is another one I pulled off my dad's bookshelf when I was maybe 17 or 18. I remember there were some racey sex scenes. At my (ahem) tender age I was more than a little shocked either of my parents would have anything like that on their bookshelves, and surprised they didn't mind my reading it too. Other than the sex, I remember very little about this book, except they made a TV mini-series about it in which several important parts were left out (like the sex seens) and characters were combi ...more
Melvin Rivers
Feb 21, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
After being captivated by the mini-series in the 1970's, I bought the book a few years later. Needless to say, I wasn't disappointed. The book is the story about two brothers who took different paths in life. A very good book. Five Stars.
Agustín Fest
En realidad son como 2.5 estrellas. Casi 3. Tiene sus momentos. Pocos. Pero son brillantes.
Aug 22, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Първата ми среща с романа на Ъруин Шоу „Богат, беден“ /Народна просвета, 1981г/ се случи, когато бях на 14, но единственото, което беше останало от него в съзнанието ми след малко повече от още толкова години, беше образът на Том и споменът, че книгата ми е харесала. Оценявам я малко по-високо точно в името на онези дни, защото сега, когато отдавна вече съм обременена и "отровена" от литература, не мога да я възприема по същия начин.
"Богат, беден" е семейна сага, но също така е роман за насилиет
Jul 08, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Rudolph and Thomas Jordache are raised in the same house, by the same parents, and yet they take very different life paths. Rudolph is disciplined and a hard worker who is determined to get ahead in life by following the rules and paving his own way. Thomas is the wild younger son who uses his fists to get ahead...or behind. Their sister Gretchen is beautiful, but haunted in her own way.

They are three characters who are very different, and yet they are family. A family who doesn't even seem to l
Oct 20, 2013 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: new-world
In my edition, this is only the first volume of Poor Man, Rich Man. It was interesting so far, but I am rather unsure about the novel and I will try not to judge it definitively. My main challenge so far is to identify the main book message or premise. I will wait for the second volume to tell for sure if the premise exists or not. So far, it seems that the first volume may be considered more a descriptive novel for Americas in the late 40s. To conclude, in terms of novel's premise, I must rate ...more
Наталия Атанасова
1. Ако не сте чели книгата
Романът на Шоу на пръв поглед привлича с това, заради което е хулен от критиците, а именно - лесно достъпен стил. Много може да се спори по въпроса дали това е недостатък или не. В крайна сметка качествените и добре направени неща стигат до много хора и не е задължително контактът с публиката да се затруднява от непознати думи или изречения по 10 реда.
„Богат, беден” ни кара да се замислим за смисъла на живота и за ценността на парите. В сюжета са преплетени историите,
Radina ☕ Ravenclaw
The story is engrossingly written, as the narration is refracted through the thoughts of the main characters (the Jordache family), though written in third person.
The first figures of the rich and the poor men are Boylan and Axel Jordache which both influence the three children in their ways – the first through his money and power, and the other – through the impure, bad blood they share and the environment he was able to provide for them during their growing. The second figures are the two brot
Apr 16, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Irwin Shaw-ın oxuduğum ən iri həcmli əsəri idi.
Digər romanlarında olduğu kimi burada da sıradan insanların həyatından bəhs edilir.
Alman əsilli miqrantın 3 övladı olur, hər 3-ü tamamilə fərqli xasiyyətə, dünyaya, həyat yoluna malik. Və əsər də onların ətrafında cərəyan edir. Onların böyüməsi ilə, həyat yollarının təsviri ilə 1945-70-ci illər arası ABŞ da əla təsvir edilir, sanki keçmişə səyahət edib dəyişən Amerikanı hiss etmək olur.
Müharibə təlaşı, qələbə eyforiyası və ab havası, post-müharibə
Amanda Spacaj-Gorham
Mar 18, 2012 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: drama, to-re-read
I read this one and its sequel back in high school (back in the 80's) and I'm surprised how much I remember from the book. It was probably the raciest book I'd read at the time, perhaps the shock that my mom had books like this(taken from the family book shelf) helped the rest of the novel stay fresh in my mind...perhaps it was all Shaw's talent which preserved passages so well. I really should re-read it and see how it strikes me now.

I can't say objectively if it's me today giving it 5 stars f
Tracy Schuster
Nov 28, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
WOW! This book sat on my mom's book shelf for years and I always thought I should read it. I am so glad I did. It reminded me what real story telling is. Shaw weaves the lives of so many people in an out of the lives of the three main characters and you simply cannot predict where you are going next. He is truly a storyteller who takes you through history on the heels of the three Jordache children and teaches you about family and how children can eventually overcome the wounds of their childhoo ...more
Apr 10, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The book is true, hard and cruel. It has no happy ending, but it's okay, because as hard to believe, human's life doesn't end happily. American dream that came true, French dream that came true. Poor are often unhappy and miserable, but wealth can't buy happiness as well. Money change people, either in a good or a bad way. How is it, to be a part of a difficult family? Characters change during the book, and a reader changes with them. It's true saga, worth of reading.
Artem Huletski
Jun 27, 2012 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Роман о людях, выбирающих разные дороги, о неоднозначности суждений и представлений о счастье. Кому "американская мечта", кому берег Франции. А ещё о настоящих поступках, которые могут искупить всё, так же, как неблаговидные поступки могут всё перечеркнуть.
Feb 06, 2012 rated it liked it
I found the book to be very long and boring, but somehow the ending saves everything. I sure rather read books that I love from the first page, but at least this one had an ending that made it worth while.
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Shaw was born Irwin Gilbert Shamforoff in the South Bronx, New York City, to Russian Jewish immigrants. Shaw was a prolific American playwright, screenwriter, novelist, and short-story author whose written works have sold more than 14 million copies. He is best known for his novels, The Young Lions (1948) and Rich Man Poor Man (1970).

His parents were Rose and Will. His younger brother, David Shaw
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“Кейт, всеки път, когато те любя, забравям по едно лошо нещо в живота си” 1 likes
“I make it a point to look as healthy and attractive as I can at all times,” Boylan had explained to Rudolph. “Even if I don’t see anybody for weeks on end. It’s a form of self-respect.” 1 likes
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