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The Lost and the Damned
(The Siege of Terra #2)
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Siege of Terra Book 2
The Solar War is over. The Siege of Terra has begun. As the Traitors unleash their deadliest weapons, the defenders of the Throneworld face nightmare and plague – but Terra must stand.
READ IT BECAUSE
Discover the lengths to which Horus will go to claim Terra as his own – and the horrors he is willing to set upon its defenders.
THE STORY
On the thirteenth ...more
The Solar War is over. The Siege of Terra has begun. As the Traitors unleash their deadliest weapons, the defenders of the Throneworld face nightmare and plague – but Terra must stand.
READ IT BECAUSE
Discover the lengths to which Horus will go to claim Terra as his own – and the horrors he is willing to set upon its defenders.
THE STORY
On the thirteenth ...more
Hardcover, 432 pages
Published
October 15th 2019
by Black Library
(first published July 2019)
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‘This is black snow. The Palace is covered in layered void shields so deep it’ll take the enemy months to pound their way through. Everywhere else on Terra? Not so well provided. So what’s falling on us is the vaporised remains of the rest of the world. It’s full of rad and poison. Kill us all dead eventually, not that we’ll last that long.’
Second long time awaited chapter of the Siege of Terra is an epic military sci-f(antasy)i retelling of the Battle of Britain with the Warmaster’s forces obta ...more
Lost and the damned review.
Finished lost and the damned. Some thoughts, spoilers.
A problem I had with the solar war, was that we were dropped into an invasion almost immediately, without a real built up that my mind needed to get (even more) hyped for this so important moment in the universe we all love, the siege of terra. For years now, for some perhaps 20 years or more, the siege of terra had some special place in our heart and was formed by a lot of different lore parts into something, a s ...more
Finished lost and the damned. Some thoughts, spoilers.
A problem I had with the solar war, was that we were dropped into an invasion almost immediately, without a real built up that my mind needed to get (even more) hyped for this so important moment in the universe we all love, the siege of terra. For years now, for some perhaps 20 years or more, the siege of terra had some special place in our heart and was formed by a lot of different lore parts into something, a s ...more
Part 2 of the Solar War picks up where part 1, the Siege of Terra left off, and it doesn't skip a beat.
This book also does the multi perspective well, jumping from the siege walls, to galactic cruisers, from inside the throne room to Sanguinias fighting demons seamlessly.
We see almost all of the major players in this book, and there are a few plot threads sewn up nice and tight.
But I think the highlight of the book is all of the scenes through the perspective of the nirmal human soldier, Katsuh ...more
This book also does the multi perspective well, jumping from the siege walls, to galactic cruisers, from inside the throne room to Sanguinias fighting demons seamlessly.
We see almost all of the major players in this book, and there are a few plot threads sewn up nice and tight.
But I think the highlight of the book is all of the scenes through the perspective of the nirmal human soldier, Katsuh ...more
The Lost and the Damned had great moments as I expect from every Siege of Terra book. I was interested to see how those stories would play out. As always the traitor parts are the best, because they give us a glimpse into their world.
But I think the story got clogged at a point that made it harder to read. Also there were some sub character stories that led nowhere. Such as the Dark Mechanicum one, the flyer one, Kharn and If i might say, even Sanguinius. But still there were plenty of cool mom ...more
But I think the story got clogged at a point that made it harder to read. Also there were some sub character stories that led nowhere. Such as the Dark Mechanicum one, the flyer one, Kharn and If i might say, even Sanguinius. But still there were plenty of cool mom ...more
Angel Boy is the Best Boy change my mind.
It started out a little slow but once past that the narrative and background kept me entertained. Im excited for the next six books.
Legit amazing. Best Horus Heresy book in a long while.
This was a slow starter for me, and other books got in the way of me ploughing through.
That being said the finale to this has set the scene for years to come. I cannot wait to see how the writers handle the remainder of the Siege.
That being said the finale to this has set the scene for years to come. I cannot wait to see how the writers handle the remainder of the Siege.
Frustrating
Haley is wonderful writer. He has written some of my favourite books, and there are flashes of greatness here, but there are clouds too. The primarchs are caricatures and one dimensional. Antron is huffy, petrurabo has lost all of his cool, the others might as well not be in it. The battles are booming but the scale is so big as to be baffling at times. Layak's floating island did it for me. Pity. Solar war was ok. This one was ok. Hope this series develops. So far, a stumbling start. ...more
Haley is wonderful writer. He has written some of my favourite books, and there are flashes of greatness here, but there are clouds too. The primarchs are caricatures and one dimensional. Antron is huffy, petrurabo has lost all of his cool, the others might as well not be in it. The battles are booming but the scale is so big as to be baffling at times. Layak's floating island did it for me. Pity. Solar war was ok. This one was ok. Hope this series develops. So far, a stumbling start. ...more
Better than the HH average fare. The principal characters and threads being brought to a head helps make up for the usual bolter porn.
I do worry though that some the central conflicts are given short shrift with no hint of further clarity:
[Primarchs] "Why didn't daddy tell us about Chaos."
[Malcador] "Chaos is awful, daddy knows best."
[Primarchs] "That's true." ...more
I do worry though that some the central conflicts are given short shrift with no hint of further clarity:
[Primarchs] "Why didn't daddy tell us about Chaos."
[Malcador] "Chaos is awful, daddy knows best."
[Primarchs] "That's true." ...more
If I had to compare the Solar War to anything it would be that of a delicious looking meat pie. HUGE and filled with mouth watering promise but when you take a mouthful you realize its just pastry with no substance. So while French was busy attempting to put readers off the Horus Heresy Guy Haley was busy at work making a new and better pie! A pie filled with flavor, substance and an edgier title!
Now, I don’t even like pie all that much but what I'm trying to say is that if the Solar War left an ...more
Now, I don’t even like pie all that much but what I'm trying to say is that if the Solar War left an ...more
What I learned from this is that Jagatai Khan has a live, love, laugh sign on his wall. Yes, he's one of those people. He even inspires it in others, according to Guy Haley's prose. I quote:
"The Warhawk was a restless wind that filled Katsuhiro with the need to rush forwards, to charge through the enemy, to ride them down and never stop moving, to doubt all, to know all, to laugh and live fully through best of times and the worst of times."
This continues throughout the book, as the master of "te ...more
"The Warhawk was a restless wind that filled Katsuhiro with the need to rush forwards, to charge through the enemy, to ride them down and never stop moving, to doubt all, to know all, to laugh and live fully through best of times and the worst of times."
This continues throughout the book, as the master of "te ...more
Game Workshop have been building up to the Siege of Terra for so long now, through the Horus Heresy series. It's finally arriving, and so far it's a huge disappointment,
The biggest problem I had with this book was the language. It goes totally overboard on metaphors and similes, which means that it reads like poetry written by a not very good poet. Descriptive passages go on and on, mixing metaphors and finding new ways of talking about how dirty and how noisy war is, until I was losing the will ...more
The biggest problem I had with this book was the language. It goes totally overboard on metaphors and similes, which means that it reads like poetry written by a not very good poet. Descriptive passages go on and on, mixing metaphors and finding new ways of talking about how dirty and how noisy war is, until I was losing the will ...more
Book two in Black Library’s Siege of Terra mini-series concluding the Horus Heresy, Guy Haley’s The Lost and the Damned picks up where The Solar War left off as Horus Lupercal launches his assault on Terra itself. Where The Solar War covered events spanning the whole of the Sol system this is much more concentrated on Terra and its immediate orbit. There’s still lots going on, from the perspective of primarchs, legionaries and mortals on both sides of the conflict, but it’s a more focused story
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Civil war on a cosmic scale.
The Lost and the Damned by Guy Haley is the second book in The Horus Heresy: The Siege of Terra series, and boy did they nail it with that title. This book is about the siege and how the good guys are slowly losing ground but still fight heroically. It is a good read but a bit repetitive and very little actually happens, especially with Horus (the big baddie) pulling a Thanos from the first Avengers films, sitting around and sending others out to do his work.
This nove ...more
The Lost and the Damned by Guy Haley is the second book in The Horus Heresy: The Siege of Terra series, and boy did they nail it with that title. This book is about the siege and how the good guys are slowly losing ground but still fight heroically. It is a good read but a bit repetitive and very little actually happens, especially with Horus (the big baddie) pulling a Thanos from the first Avengers films, sitting around and sending others out to do his work.
This nove ...more
Like with the previous book, I find myself enjoying the moments where it’s more dialogue and introspection than combat. The parts with the conscript soldiers being used as shields against Horus’s opening offensive comes to mind. It’s harrowing to read what they go through, and the horrors of war that they witness, all for a cause that’s both beyond them and is vital for humanity’s survival.
Another high point is seeing how the traitor leadership is doing, and how much of a balancing act is neede ...more
Another high point is seeing how the traitor leadership is doing, and how much of a balancing act is neede ...more
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YAAAAAY! Horus Heresy!
Ahem.
I really loved this book - I really enjoyed everything about it, and was fairly engaged throughout. There was a lot of battle, and all of that, but there was a lot of richness and story and elements that I just felt were perfect touches.
My one complaint - Heresy is ongoing and has been for a very long time. I'm not entirely certain I'd remembered everything that I should reading it, and I did have to ask my more knowledgable friends who actively play the game now (as I ...more
Ahem.
I really loved this book - I really enjoyed everything about it, and was fairly engaged throughout. There was a lot of battle, and all of that, but there was a lot of richness and story and elements that I just felt were perfect touches.
My one complaint - Heresy is ongoing and has been for a very long time. I'm not entirely certain I'd remembered everything that I should reading it, and I did have to ask my more knowledgable friends who actively play the game now (as I ...more
I thought that this book was an excellent introduction to the Siege of Terra the biggest event in Games Workshop 40k lore. Each of the sub stories demonstrate the scope and scale of the engagement from the moment Horus arrives above the skies of Terra.
Normally in a Black Library book there is a point of view or sub story that feels forced but in this book this is simply not the case. Each viewpoint, each chapter adds to the arc. The Khan and Sanguinius have their moments to shine but no one is ...more
Normally in a Black Library book there is a point of view or sub story that feels forced but in this book this is simply not the case. Each viewpoint, each chapter adds to the arc. The Khan and Sanguinius have their moments to shine but no one is ...more
Great novel within the Horus Hersey timeline - like most things WH40k, some background knowledge is useful but not required. The individual Primarchs are well written, each feeling like a unique character with different goals and ambitions, and the non-Legion characters are well fleshed out as well. I definitely would recommend reading back and getting caught up on the storyline before jumping into the middle of the series, but as this is book two of the Siege of Terra arc, that shouldn't take t
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It's a bit of a struggle to review "gaming" fiction in general. The backgrounds, characters and stories are often fun and interesting but, to put it politely, the "quality of the writing varies" and unfortunately, it usually doesn't vary much if-you-know-what-I-mean.
So, that being said this book is fine. If you're a 40k fan, I recommend it. It's nice to see more detail on a very critical bit of history. But if you are just 40k-curious, I don't think there's much here for you... better to start o ...more
So, that being said this book is fine. If you're a 40k fan, I recommend it. It's nice to see more detail on a very critical bit of history. But if you are just 40k-curious, I don't think there's much here for you... better to start o ...more
Managed to keep a strong central narrative despite the large cast and epic scale.
Still, like most 40k stuff, utterly failed Bechdel. Considering it's a rare Horus Heresy book where the all-male Astartes aren't the central characters, this feels like a missed opportunity.
It's a pretty bleak book, i know that put some people off, but that's fine by me. It's a bleak story, the Siege of Terra. ...more
Still, like most 40k stuff, utterly failed Bechdel. Considering it's a rare Horus Heresy book where the all-male Astartes aren't the central characters, this feels like a missed opportunity.
It's a pretty bleak book, i know that put some people off, but that's fine by me. It's a bleak story, the Siege of Terra. ...more
An entertaining read that throttles along. Haley has a good handle on the main characters, and introduces interesting new ones. That said, not much ultimately happens in the book (that's not necessarily on Haley - the events covered are there by design to fit in with the overall story), and some of the prose can be a bit clunky.
However, a must read for fans of the series or Warhammer 40K in general. ...more
However, a must read for fans of the series or Warhammer 40K in general. ...more
Truly excellent, all anyone needs to know.
I was concerned that a siege novel would be dull and frustrating to plod through but Haley has nailed it. The pace is perfect and a both the micro and macro are covered giving you a sense of the whole picture, or as best it can be done without making the work too heavy to enjoy.
Will not mention what goes on, but it's heating up! ...more
I was concerned that a siege novel would be dull and frustrating to plod through but Haley has nailed it. The pace is perfect and a both the micro and macro are covered giving you a sense of the whole picture, or as best it can be done without making the work too heavy to enjoy.
Will not mention what goes on, but it's heating up! ...more
I didn't know quite how Guy Haley would follow John French's excellent 'The Solar War', but follow it he did! The story is every bit as epic as it's predecessor and delivers on drama, action and intrigue. This series is setting a very high bar. Exceptional writing, amazing story. A very worth while read.
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The Heresy begins to close and 3 Primarchs stand to defend Terra from Horus and his traitor fleets. This story has fewer main participants than the first book and, as such, is much easier to follow. (It also helps it includes my favourite Primarch!!)
Terra is under attack from orbit, land, and the warp; and Horus makes progress.
Terra is under attack from orbit, land, and the warp; and Horus makes progress.
I have only recently discovered the pleasure of Warhammer books and really should have read this book after catching up on others in the series, it’s a good book. I enjoyed but found a lot of the characters and back story confusing as I was not aware of canon or lore, my fault not the authors
This book tells a great story without playing favorites with the legions/characters
Something some other HH authors seem unable to do
Something some other HH authors seem unable to do
Dec 04, 2019
Joel Harris
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Loved how the author handled the multiple POV's with the different characters. Would gladly tell friends and family to read this book. Can't wait till next year, for book 3 in the series.
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Excellent read, I can't wait for the next one one to come out.
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