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The Warship: The Rise of the Jain 2

(Rise of the Jain #2)

4.36  ·  Rating details ·  1,638 ratings  ·  91 reviews

Their nemesis lies in wait . . .

Orlandine has destroyed the alien Jain super-soldier by deploying an actual black hole. And now that same weapon hoovers up clouds of lethal Jain technology, swarming within the deadly accretion disc’s event horizon. All seems just as she planned. Yet behind her back, forces incite rebellion on her home world, planning her assassination.


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Published April 23rd 2019 by Macmillan
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This is something quite amazing.
And when I say quite, I mean, "HOLY S*** what just HAPPENED here?"

It's been a while since I sat down to read SF expecting and eventually receiving a whole AWE effect. This is wide-brained high-tech imagination at its best, building on all the major developments and changes from all his previous books, giving us such massive scope and terror that both the combined might of the Polity AND the Prador are totally freaking out.

It's the Jain, folks. Their nanotech, jus
Chris Berko
May 18, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I hate my brain.
I usually wait until all books of a trilogy are out before I begin reading them because I am one of the most impatient people on earth when it comes to having to wait to finish stories I am really into. It's not like there aren't enough other books to read and I am pretty good about sticking to this rule. HOWEVER, the early reviews for this book are so spectacular and I've read so many other Asher novels I knew I would be able to retain the details as to what was going on with th
Steven Stennett
Jan 31, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Asher Neal does this so well, A.I, exotic Alien technology, space craft that conduct ballet style battles with weapons that pulverise planets.

One of the main stayers of very readable science fiction in the new world order, where, readers hankering seems pitched for the obscure, political, social, economical, commit on the future.

Science fiction readers for me have begun to look less for a good or great read, and less for an adventure to enjoy and get lost in.

With non-binary, vegan, (which are al
Tim Hicks
Jun 30, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
Not perfect, but you have to admire the sheer scope of it, and the way it ties in EVERYTHING from 20 years of previous books.

I'm pretty sure Asher lives in a regular house in England and a small one in Crete. So where is the giant warehouse with the 60' x 60' wall on which he has mapped his characters and their placements and allegiances and former bodies? How Does He Keep It All Straight? How long has he been looking forward with where this is all going?

This is 3-D chess with no pawns; all th
Bryan Brown
Nov 30, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci_fi
I spent the first third or so of this book frantically trying to remember the events in “The Soldier” which is the first book in the Rise of the Jain series. Things did come back to me as I read, but I would recommend rereading the first book or at least finding a summary on the internet for a refresher before jumping into “The Warship”.

This book remains constantly complex, and has shifting points of view like most of Asher's Polity novels. The central characters though are all connected to war
Apr 06, 2019 marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
PW Starred: In this riveting sequel to The Soldier, Asher ramps up the pyrotechnics in the thunderous first salvoes of war between the human/AI Polity and the xenophobic Jain culture, which humans had believed long extinct. In the first book, a single Jain soldier was revived and then destroyed by Orlandine, a cyborg “haiman” in control of the Jaskoran system and one of the guardians of a nearby accretion disc, a former solar system scattered with dormant Jain tech. When the Clade, a swarm AI, a ...more
Martin Phillips
Jun 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Asher is quickly becoming one of my go-to authors. Can't believe it took me so long to recognize his talent, but at least I have a lot of joyful catch up reading to do through his entire works to date.

This 2nd book in the Rise of the Jain series was amazing! If you are looking for a story that is gripping, thoughtful, evocative, entertaining and HARD HARD HARD scifi, then this series is for YOU!

Unlike the first book, this 2nd one takes place entirely in one location in the galaxy. And there is
May 15, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
FYI - Prepare for a massive cliff hanger at the end of this book.

Mr. Asher knows how to scale up threats in his novels without them become cartoonish or otherwise silly. In the early Polity novels we were looking at single protagonists or limited outbreaks of Jain corruption. In this series we're way more out there than that. The first book, the Warrior, concerned a single Jain warrior causing strife amongst the other sinister characters. In this one, well, just look at the title. This book also
John Devlin
I had been a bit disappointed by the first book in the Jain trilogy but warship is a good return to form for mr Asher.

His ability to write cool tech sometimes gets the better of him and he ignores the character elements of his story. This was not the case here.
Jamie Rich
May 25, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The War Ship: Rise of the Jain, Book Two (Kindle Edition) by Neal Asher

This is the point at which magic becomes indistinguishable from technology.
And you just *thought* his past book, The Soldier, was incredible! Here the author turns the page from the end of that book, and into this one. No quarter is asked for nor drawn, sink or swim, you better bring your "A Game" because Neal Asher certainly does!
How ironic that so many of the most loved/hated characters are decidedly not human! But also, t
Dec 01, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
If you like science fiction with killer aliens, big guns and even bigger ships, this book is for you. I am a big fan of Asher, having read most of his work; I like the references to his earlier work laced throughout this. This takes place right were The Soldier left off, and ends with a killer cliff hanger; one of the reasons I kept putting off reading this is that, although I was sure I would like it, he has not published the final book of the trilogy yet, leaving me waiting with baited breath. ...more
Sam From the Square Groot
A middling book form one of the best sci-fi writers around.

Asher falls into many of the same tropes that have worked for him in the past, tropes which are now familiar and stifle the story and characters. Things which were fresh, new and exciting are now tired, old and mundane.
Things such as: Several powerful entities knowing most, if not all, of what is going on.
Humans are squishy and stupid.
A plan initiated by someone/something which baffles everyone, but the solution is simple.
Retcons gal
Vincent Archer
May 13, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: hard-sf
Asher does it again.

This second book in the Rise of the Jain trilogy starts where the previous one ended, and adds more background and lore to the Polity Universe and one of its most infamous Elder Races, the Jain. We've only seen the Jain so far thru the lenses of the technology they left around which is basically a world-devourer trap. Now, we get to understand a bit better why that technology got there.

Of course, there's plenty of technology thrown around, total callous disregard for anything
Nia Sinjorina
Feb 01, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Having loved The Solider (book 1), I was desperate to begin reading the second book, but found myself annoyed at the £10 cost of an ebook. Ultimately though, I caved in (wuss!) and read the entire tome in a week.

It's all there - multilayered plot, dense technology, deep characters, very little filler, a bouncing pace. 

Which is why I am struggling to understand why I was left feeling ... disappointed. I suppose I expected more in terms of the development of the story, something that Asher is a ma
Fred P
Aug 19, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This series is heating up in the second installment. I love the multiple, interwoven plotlines and the foreshadowing of a cataclysmic conflict with an ancient, warrior species. From the machinations of the mysterious Wheel, to the destructive malice of an artificially intelligent swarm, there are many implacable enemies that can't be pinned down, even by the vast, artificial intelligences of the human-led Polity. Although this exists in the milieu of Asher's longtime fictional universe, the seri ...more
Mike Franklin
Oct 25, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
The Warship is the second book in Asher’s Rise of the Jain trilogy that is possibly shaping up to be my favourite series yet of Asher’s Polity books. The Warship is packed with action from start to finish; my edition has a brief quote from Locus magazine – ‘Titanic battle sequences’ – that pretty much sums it up. As ever Asher’s imagination is startling in its mind-expanding detail. This book has everything that has made his Polity books such a success - Dragon, drones, AIs, Hoopers, Prador, vas ...more
Oct 12, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
For years now, Neal Asher has teased the concept of the Jain; a dead race whose remnant technology is a lethal threat to all that meddle with it. With this sub-series of his sprawling "Polity" universe Asher is finally putting some meat on the bones of this particular monster and I must say that the wait has been worth it, as Asher's long-term readers are going to be wondering how his cast of characters are going to get out from under this doom. The only real problem here is that while those fol ...more
Allen Massey
Jun 24, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: audible
If you read the Soldier then of course you are going to read this book. Neal Asher is a great author and he is writing some of the best hard science fiction available. But.. as often happens with the second book in a trilogy there is a lot of stage dressing going on. Lots of time is spent positioning all the important players, explaining to the reader why they are getting ready to do the things they will need to do and so on. So while the book is certainly not boring (Asher is far too good to wr ...more
With Neal Asher's 2019 novel "Polity, Book 13; Rise of the Jain, Book 2: Warship, The," I guess I've just become burned out with the series. It's become a never-ending slog of ever increasing "leveling up" of both protagonists and antagonists. It's gotten to the point that it's really not even science fiction any more. Basically, with where everyone and everything has gotten now, these are gods just doing whatever they darn well feel like. Oh, the writing is good enough (though the story is a bi ...more
Robert Collins
Jun 07, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: space-opera, sci-fi
The Warship where nothing is what you assume, the Jain are back and they are not what you thought they are, well the are sort of, its complicated.
This has layers of complexity, intergalactic politics, interpersonal relationships having far reaching consequences.
Asher cleverly uses "reference" extracts at the beginning of each chapter to explain the science behind the fundamental plot points; how warships travel FTL, communications, weapons, AI/human combination and others. This avoids the often
Jun 26, 2019 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Pretty standard fare for a book set in the Prador universe. Scheming AIs, enhanced humans and aliens and deep space battles.

For some reason, this didn't hold my attention as well as all the previous books. Maybe because the plot structure was becoming too predictable? And as an entity, the Client's form was a little hard to believe. How could anything like that ever evolve and survive? Possibly what irks me is that the story is still unfinished and so there are still lots of unanswered question
david james
Jul 29, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Excellent continuation of the Jain trilogy. Each story thread is compelling, and the development of Orlandine, Trike, Angel, Blade and the Client in particular, keep the book flowing at a good rate.

In typical Asher style, the body count is exponential - personally I like the escalation of the battles and increasing destructive power of the war machines, and you are left wondering how much of the galaxy will be standing when the trilogy ends!

To me, there is no weak story thread, which can often
Brian Shelby
(Same review as the first of this series, since I read them consecutively)
I enjoyed this one, like I have all of the Polity universe novels. My favorite parts are still there - interesting technology, strange alien life, action. That said, having been away from Asher for a while, the writing wasn't as poetic as others I've tried recently (Iain Banks) and the characters not as deep (Murderbot). I'll still be back for more in this trilogy and from this author, but seeking those other things elsewh
Apr 11, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is the second in the 'Rise of the Jain' trilogy and just like the first an all his other works of absolute genius, this book is absolutely A.W.E.S.O.M.E!!!
Action, big set piece battles, ongoing adventures, characters that are hugely interesting an emotionally and psychologically valid.
My favourite SyFy author was Iain M Banks...but I'm seriously considering re-allocating No.1 spot to Mr Asher!
The 3rd and next in the series, 'The Human,' has already been ordered an I will eagerly be reading
Michael Latiolais
Jun 17, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is classic Asher. If you like his work, you will like this. However, I do have a complaint. I feel like I've read this story before. I like learning more about the Jain, but aside from that, this feels like very similar territory to the Technician, the fight with Erebus, the fight between Penny Royal and the Brockle, etc.
The occasional space battle is fine, but I keep hoping for more weirdness like the Weaver and Penny Royal. Even checking in on the Csorians might be interesting.
Aug 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing
There are some books that I will wait to read until I am on my own in a dark room and there is no possiblity of being disturbed, and Neal Asher is always in this category. I am simply a fan. He does often go back to the same background - the Polity,the Prador,the Jain, the Hoopers yet his trilogys or stand alone novels are original in their own right. If you want quality sci-fi with an original twist look no further.
Oct 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
Of the 5 Neal Asher books I have read, this is my favourite. Even though this has a huge space opera setting, there is plenty of intimate interactions between the characters. Orlandine and Trike both go through traumatic changes and the Client who had a major role in the last book takes a step back. Dragon is not as present in this story either and he is a very interesting being. I am looking forward to seeing more of the Jain as they still have not truly rising.
May 11, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Neal's writing gets better and better

Packed with hard tech weaponry and more twists and turns than ever. Happy endings come with a price as you would expect in the real world. Heroes are not perfect, villains are not just evil...or are they? The only thing more I could ask for is the return of Penny Royale in book 3 to complete the madness & genius of this series.
Paul Sparks
Jun 19, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I bought this book in physical form about 5 weeks ago but Neal Asher stated on social media that Peter Noble was returning to narrate the book for Audible so I have waited (not so patiently) and have binge listened to this and absolutely loved it, I am a big fan of the author and each book he releases pushes the limits for me, it’s great sci-fi and also great storytelling
Aug 06, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Although it's slightly procedural plotwise and mostly sets the stage for the last installment of the trilogy, the book is fast flowing, very enjoyable and not so predictable.

I enjoyed it more than the Soldier, and I hail the Author's return to hardcore SF without the splatter/horror element prevalent in the Transformation trilogy.

Eagerly awaiting the last part of the set.
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