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During the years he spent among the Marsh Arabs of southern Iraq-long before they were almost completely wiped out by Saddam Hussein-Wilfred Thesiger came to understand, admire, and share a way of life that had endured for many centuries. Traveling from village to village by canoe, he won acceptance by dispensing medicine and treating the sick. In this account of a nearly
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October 25th 2007
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(first published 1964)
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I wonder if despite the draining of the marshes it might be easier for the way of life described here to return than that of the Bedouin in Arabian Sands?
Thesiger spent a number of years in the early 1950s travelling around the marshes of southern Iraq. He wasn't as taken with the Marsh Arabs as he had been by the Bedouin (his travels with them are described in Arabian Sands). The way of life in the Iraqi marshes was too settled and lacked the extreme hardship of the Empty Quarter, and Thesiger ...more
Thesiger spent a number of years in the early 1950s travelling around the marshes of southern Iraq. He wasn't as taken with the Marsh Arabs as he had been by the Bedouin (his travels with them are described in Arabian Sands). The way of life in the Iraqi marshes was too settled and lacked the extreme hardship of the Empty Quarter, and Thesiger ...more
I have given three stars to the two books I have read by Wilfred Thesiger, The Marsh Arabs and Arabian Sands, and yet I do prefer the former over the latter. There is more moving about from place to place in the latter. The Arabic names of places are hard to keep straight, particularly if there are many. In the former the focus is less on places and more on people, which I prefer.
The Marsh Arabs is about the Arab tribes living in the marshlands of southern Iraq at the conjunction of the Euphrate ...more
The Marsh Arabs is about the Arab tribes living in the marshlands of southern Iraq at the conjunction of the Euphrate ...more
While I was reading this book, it felt as if it were written some 75 or 100 years ago instead of 1964. Wilfred Thesiger was writing about a way of life that vanished rather abruptly after Saddam Hussein decided to drain much of the marshland in which the Madans and other marsh Arabs lived. Their way of life was ancient, perhaps going back to the days of ancient Sumer -- but then so much of what was ancient has been wiped off the face of the Earth in the last few decades.
Thesiger found himself we ...more
Thesiger found himself we ...more
There is a place between the rivers Euphrates and Tigris where the mythical Garden of Eden is supposed to have been.
This is probably not it, as the marshlands here takes a lot of adaption to live in and the famous Adam and Eve would not have been that quick adaptors.
But, it has been inhabited for centuries if not more by the tribes Wilfred Thesiger collectively calls the Marsh Arabs.
During the 50-ties Wilfred Thesiger spent 8 years on/off in this area, exploring and doctoring and getting famil ...more
This is probably not it, as the marshlands here takes a lot of adaption to live in and the famous Adam and Eve would not have been that quick adaptors.
But, it has been inhabited for centuries if not more by the tribes Wilfred Thesiger collectively calls the Marsh Arabs.
During the 50-ties Wilfred Thesiger spent 8 years on/off in this area, exploring and doctoring and getting famil ...more
Oct 15, 2018
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"The Marsh Arabs" is a travel book first published in 1964 that describes the 8 years during the 1950s that Wilfred Thesiger spent travelling in Iraqi marshs where the Maʻdān or shroog tribesmen lived. The author's intent is to write a lyrical tribute to a people whose style of life "had not changed for 5000 years". He makes their blood feuds, high rate of infant mortality and crushing poverty seem both charming and bucolic.
It should not be ignored that Thesiger spouts a great deal of nonsense. ...more
It should not be ignored that Thesiger spouts a great deal of nonsense. ...more
In The Marsh Arabs, Wilfred Thesiger describes his intermittent eight-year stay with the Marsh Arabs of Southern Iraq during the 1950s. The marshlands consist of a 6,000 square area of wetlands where the Tigris and Euphrates close in on each other and eventually meet before flowing into the Shatt Al-Arab waterway, pass the city of Basra, and merge into the Arabian Gulf. Regarded by many historians as the location of the Biblical Garden of Eden and Great Flood, the area is known as the cradle of
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There is no-one who does this kind of book better. No-one who can take you inside a vanishing Arab culture better than Wilfred Thesiger. He did it in the wonderful book Arabian Sands and he has done it here again with The Marsh Arabs.
If you are familiar with Thesiger's books you will know that he has a passion for photography and he includes many photos in his books, more photos than you get in any non fiction published these days. The Marsh Arab was no exception. It had plentiful photos (all bl ...more
If you are familiar with Thesiger's books you will know that he has a passion for photography and he includes many photos in his books, more photos than you get in any non fiction published these days. The Marsh Arab was no exception. It had plentiful photos (all bl ...more
I enjoyed Thesiger's book Arabian Sands better and debated about giving this one 4 stars. Once I finished this book though, I realized it deserved no less than 5 stars. Although I didn't find myself as absorbed in the stories of the Marsh Arabs as compared to the desert Arabians, I was nonetheless so impressed with Thesiger's ability to integrate himself fully into the lives of whatever culture he was living with, in this case the Marsh Arabs. He seemed to fully respect whichever culture he was
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It could be unfair to rate three stars, but I born and grew in the Marshes of Dhi Qar, so I guess I know more facts the the author knows.
from one side this book looks like a novel in the way of his writing about the protagonists,
overally I like this book and I guess this is the better book wrote about Iraqi Marshes.
from one side this book looks like a novel in the way of his writing about the protagonists,
overally I like this book and I guess this is the better book wrote about Iraqi Marshes.
I was initially quite impressed with this. It has been a while since I read _Arabian Sands_, and I had forgotten how powerful Thesiger's imagery can be. The first chapter in particular is very poetic, and scattered throughout the rest of the book you can find occasional scenes of startling beauty, as Thesiger describes the life of the Madan, pieces of touching drama, or the otherworldly scenery of the marshes. For its communication of a 'sense of place', this is very worthwhile.
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An account of the author’s extensive travels through the marshes at the confluence of Iraq’s Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The author boats where fancy takes him, no over-arching quest to guide him, just the spirit of exploration and the desire to experience a culture largely untouched by the modern world. Along the way he describes his environment and its wildlife; the people he meets; their stories, customs, rituals and rivalries; their architecture and material culture. With some loyal indigen
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Some say it was the true "Garden of Eden" -- and now it's nearly gone. Renowned British explorer/traveler Wilfred Thesiger gave us this fantastically readable 1964 book about the marshlands of Iraq and the Arabs who inhabited them. They got around by skiffs and operated a water-based economy such as growing and weaving reeds, quite unlike the arid lands/desert lifestyle usually associated with Middle Eastern Arabs. Thesiger lived among them -- observing their ways, interviewing them, sometimes d
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Nov 01, 2017
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This book is a sort of time capsule, having captured and saved for posterity an intimate, detailed, clear-eyed and very personal description of an environment and an entire way of life that no longer exists. Regrettably, world politics, oil and despotism totally destroyed this unique world shortly after Thesiger's sojourn. A brutal dictatorship culminating in Saddam Hussein's folly saw to it that the iconic wetlands that had sustained life for thousands of years were drained, destroying not just
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Nov 02, 2018
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It could be unfair to rate three stars, but I born and grew in the Marshes of Dhi Qar, so I guess I know more facts the the author knows.
from one side this book looks like a novel in the way of his writing about the protagonists,
overally I like this book and I guess this is the better book wrote about Iraqi Marshes.
from one side this book looks like a novel in the way of his writing about the protagonists,
overally I like this book and I guess this is the better book wrote about Iraqi Marshes.
Curiously Thesiger made his reputation amongst the Marsh Arabs as an accomplished circumciser of local youths. The ability to do this without the accompanying hideous infections of badly performed procedures, or those undertaken with dirty instruments, was warmly welcomed. An elementary knowledge of medicine combined with a suitcase full of drugs etc enabled him to provide considerable assistance to the population in the marshes of southern Iraq in the 1950s. He seemed to cure everything from gu
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Thesiger is so comfortable among the Marsh Arabs that his narrative has none of the wonder of a travel or adventure story, but all of the candor and naturalism of a social study, focused on the fading culture of the Madan and the compromised environment of the marshes themselves.
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Thesiger is unique in his simple, unadulterated curiosity about the lives of the Marsh Arabs. Thesiger's treatment of Iraqi geography and history is important reading for Americans, the new conquerors, to understan ...more
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Thesiger is unique in his simple, unadulterated curiosity about the lives of the Marsh Arabs. Thesiger's treatment of Iraqi geography and history is important reading for Americans, the new conquerors, to understan ...more
i love reading thesinger, this one and 'arabian sands'. he was such an interesting person and had such fantastic approaches to the people he met and places he went. the photos in this one, like arabian sands, are amazing. what an incredible way of life the marsh arabs had in iraq, now of course gone for ever. i highly recommend this book if you are at all interested in explorers or learning about ways of life you never knew existed.
One of the greatest and most interesting books I have ever read. What I love about Thesiger is that he draws you into a whole new world, and introduces every character so well that you remember them throughout the novel.
I wish his works were more well known and read. This man is a truly underrated author.
I wish his works were more well known and read. This man is a truly underrated author.
Don't see that anyone has tagged this classic. It's Thesiger's other classic for me.
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In order to truly appreciate Thesiger’s “The Marsh Arabs” it is imperative for the reader to take distance from the current preconceptions of race, gender, and cultural customs. Although not that old in body, the ideas and traditions of the Madan culture have been around for millennia, with little changes until Saddam Hussein drained the marshes. Having an open mind about how life existed and how cultural values and gender roles had a bigger impression of how a person should be and act as a part
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I picked up this book as a kind of double homage. My travels round the world have occasionally thrown up the occasional obscure name, with the relevant conversation typically beginning with a haughty “good lord, you mean you haven’t heard of Gertrude Bell/Mary Kingsley/Freya Stark/whomever?”. When I lived in the Middle East, Thesiger’s was one of those names: to read him was somehow to join a select club.
And second, I was lucky enough to visit those very Iraqi marshes in the early eighties, bef ...more
And second, I was lucky enough to visit those very Iraqi marshes in the early eighties, bef ...more
Initially this was a useful aid in mapping out rural locations in Southern Mesopotamia. It proved interesting enough to read all the way through.
The Marsh Arabs is a piece of travel writing describing Wilfred Thesiger's seven years living among the Marshmen of southern Iraq. It takes place during the 1950's, but feels much older. Thesiger was one of the last great British adventurers, and the world he recorded in this book has mostly vanished. While the Marsh Arabs still exist as a people, their ...more
The Marsh Arabs is a piece of travel writing describing Wilfred Thesiger's seven years living among the Marshmen of southern Iraq. It takes place during the 1950's, but feels much older. Thesiger was one of the last great British adventurers, and the world he recorded in this book has mostly vanished. While the Marsh Arabs still exist as a people, their ...more
Again, the things you find in thrift-stores.
To be perfectly fair, this one was chosen by my partner - I ended up reading it because I had finished the books I had chosen. He probably enjoyed more than I did.
The interesting thing about travel memoirs is that, invariably, they're seen through the eyes of the beholder (duh). And Thesiger makes for an entertaining narrator. On the one hand, his admiration for the Marsh Arabs, their customs and rituals and their lifestyles becomes quickly apparent. O ...more
To be perfectly fair, this one was chosen by my partner - I ended up reading it because I had finished the books I had chosen. He probably enjoyed more than I did.
The interesting thing about travel memoirs is that, invariably, they're seen through the eyes of the beholder (duh). And Thesiger makes for an entertaining narrator. On the one hand, his admiration for the Marsh Arabs, their customs and rituals and their lifestyles becomes quickly apparent. O ...more
Thesiger was one of that odd breed of Englishmen, from Sir Richard Burton to T.E. Lawrence to ... well, to this fellow ... who would take it into their heads to go out into a primitive culture and just live there. Thesiger had previously lived for five years among the Berbers; in this book he relates his long visits to the marshlands of the lower Tigris-Euphrates valley in Iraq.
The writing is workmanlike, not at all poetic. He recounts incidents without a blink and only cursory personal reactio ...more
The writing is workmanlike, not at all poetic. He recounts incidents without a blink and only cursory personal reactio ...more
An excellent read; the writing style is both descriptive and engaging, and the story itself fascinating. The book includes over a hundred photographic plates which augment the story tremendously, especially for the amazing reed mudhifs which are frequently the setting. (The photos and more can be found in the Pitt Rivers Museum collection).
I have not yet read Arabian Sands but reviews of that earlier work complained about Thesiger's primitivism and romanticization of the Bedouin - I didn't see m ...more
I have not yet read Arabian Sands but reviews of that earlier work complained about Thesiger's primitivism and romanticization of the Bedouin - I didn't see m ...more
A matter of fact account, almost memoir, of the period the author lived in the Iraqi marshes. Travelling widely within the marshes the author provides an anthropological record of life and customs within the tribes that occupy these areas. Their habits, customs, feuds, animals, tragedies and joys as he experienced them are set down. the flies, boredom, illness, hard labour are mentioned but not dwelled upon. The magnificence of a properly made mudhif is well explained and the plates do them part
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Great inspiration infered when in context of writing my thesis on nomadic tribes in the region.
The story holds an anthropological, ethnological and philosophical degree of investment from the standpoint of a modern (wo)man. Satisfies the cravings of the adventurous soul who wished to roam the world in quests of natural and human discoveries. Romanesque, engaging and truly mind changing when understanding one's own conjecture as a descendant of the Marsh Arabs.
Pictures are added in the old editi ...more
The story holds an anthropological, ethnological and philosophical degree of investment from the standpoint of a modern (wo)man. Satisfies the cravings of the adventurous soul who wished to roam the world in quests of natural and human discoveries. Romanesque, engaging and truly mind changing when understanding one's own conjecture as a descendant of the Marsh Arabs.
Pictures are added in the old editi ...more
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Sir Wilfred Patrick Thesiger, KBE, DSO, MA, DLitt, FRAS, FRSL, FRGS, FBA, was a British explorer and travel writer born in Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia.
Thesiger was educated at Eton College and Magdalen College, Oxford University where he took a third in history. Between 1930 and 1933, Thesiger represented Oxford at boxing and later (1933) became captain of the Oxford boxing team.
In 1930, ...more
Thesiger was educated at Eton College and Magdalen College, Oxford University where he took a third in history. Between 1930 and 1933, Thesiger represented Oxford at boxing and later (1933) became captain of the Oxford boxing team.
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