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Heaven's River
(Bobiverse #4)
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Listening Length: 16 hours and 57 minutes
Civil war looms in the Bobiverse in this brand-new, epic-length adventure by best seller Dennis E. Taylor.
More than a hundred years ago, Bender set out for the stars and was never heard from again. There has been no trace of him despite numerous searches by his clone-mates. Now Bob is determined to organize an expedition to learn Be ...more
Civil war looms in the Bobiverse in this brand-new, epic-length adventure by best seller Dennis E. Taylor.
More than a hundred years ago, Bender set out for the stars and was never heard from again. There has been no trace of him despite numerous searches by his clone-mates. Now Bob is determined to organize an expedition to learn Be ...more
Audible Audio, Unabridged; 16 hours and 57 minutes , 608 pages
Published
September 24th 2020
by Audible Studios
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This book isn't even out yet! Why are people rating it 5 stars?! Like, I get it. We're excited. But the point of Goodreads is not to 5-star every book we're excited about...
UPDATE: The book was released today! Temporarily upgrading my review to 4 stars until I've read it!
UPDATE #2: Finished the book and assigning an actual rating.
In short, if you liked the previous Bobiverse books, you'll like this one.
Pros
This installment kept me engaged. I wouldn't say it's a page turner per se, but still very ...more
UPDATE: The book was released today! Temporarily upgrading my review to 4 stars until I've read it!
UPDATE #2: Finished the book and assigning an actual rating.
In short, if you liked the previous Bobiverse books, you'll like this one.
Pros
This installment kept me engaged. I wouldn't say it's a page turner per se, but still very ...more

I enjoyed the Bobiverse trilogy. This book is a continuation of the story. This book is engaging, but I enjoyed the trilogy more.
The book is well written and humor is scattered throughout the story. There are two stories going on: one is Bob searching for Bender and the other is a pending Civil War with a younger generation who call themselves Trekkies. The book makes a fun escape from the world.
I read this as an audiobook downloaded from Audible. The book is sixteen hours and fifty-seven minut ...more
The book is well written and humor is scattered throughout the story. There are two stories going on: one is Bob searching for Bender and the other is a pending Civil War with a younger generation who call themselves Trekkies. The book makes a fun escape from the world.
I read this as an audiobook downloaded from Audible. The book is sixteen hours and fifty-seven minut ...more

For all you folks who have not been introduced to Bobiverse, start with book one. For all you folks who might be worried that they're losing steam by book four, please rest assured. I liked book four even more than books two or three.
The originally fantastic nerd nostalgia from the original is still available in these later books, but it doesn't rely upon it. Indeed, the moral quandaries, the mystery and adventure, the sheer awesomeness of a post-humanity uploaded consciousness of a single progr ...more
The originally fantastic nerd nostalgia from the original is still available in these later books, but it doesn't rely upon it. Indeed, the moral quandaries, the mystery and adventure, the sheer awesomeness of a post-humanity uploaded consciousness of a single progr ...more

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Executive summary: If you have not read any of the prior "Bobiverse" books, make sure you read those first. If you enjoyed those books, you will like this one. If you don't like those b ...more
Executive summary: If you have not read any of the prior "Bobiverse" books, make sure you read those first. If you enjoyed those books, you will like this one. If you don't like those b ...more

Everything has consequences.
About 24 generations of Bobs now exist. However, this many replications have resulted in a drift. Thus, the Bobiverse is fracturing (view spoiler) and the characters become ... downright erratic.
But there is more. As the book progresses, the rift between the bios and the Bobiverse also becomes more pronounced, which seriously pissed me off. I mean, one of the species wouldn't exis ...more

It is a book number 4 in the series, but it is also a sort of a new beginning, like a series-in-series. I've rated "The original trilogy" exclusively in fivers, so this book had a really steep hill to climb to reach the same level, and long story put short, it didn't.
Now don't get me wrong, it still is a very good book, just it lacks a bit of freshness, novelty and lightness of the original 3. There's too much Bobs and too much pages for this kind of story. Oh, and the whole plot looks quite si ...more
Now don't get me wrong, it still is a very good book, just it lacks a bit of freshness, novelty and lightness of the original 3. There's too much Bobs and too much pages for this kind of story. Oh, and the whole plot looks quite si ...more

Notes:
- #4 may be my fav book in the series. Maybe. I have to think about it or re-read the series. =)
- The opening for the book made me question my memory of All These Worlds #3. Now I want to reread it.
- I enjoyed the setup much more than the conclusion of the story, but the way things were left leaves me excited to see what else will happen. No cliffhangers. Just lots of fun possibilities.
- #4 may be my fav book in the series. Maybe. I have to think about it or re-read the series. =)
- The opening for the book made me question my memory of All These Worlds #3. Now I want to reread it.
- I enjoyed the setup much more than the conclusion of the story, but the way things were left leaves me excited to see what else will happen. No cliffhangers. Just lots of fun possibilities.

Heaven's River
This is a good book and I have no problems recommending it. Anyone who read or listened to the first 3 books will undoubtedly enjoy this last edition to the "Bobiverse" series.
I'm a huge fan of Dennis E. Taylor; he has demonstrated his prowess as an author.
I do, in contrast to my recommendation, have some minor criticisms which are hopefully taken constructively.
First, the strength of this book leans on the first three books in the series. Compared to the first three, this story ...more
This is a good book and I have no problems recommending it. Anyone who read or listened to the first 3 books will undoubtedly enjoy this last edition to the "Bobiverse" series.
I'm a huge fan of Dennis E. Taylor; he has demonstrated his prowess as an author.
I do, in contrast to my recommendation, have some minor criticisms which are hopefully taken constructively.
First, the strength of this book leans on the first three books in the series. Compared to the first three, this story ...more

Another superb installment of the Bobiverse! I seriously cannot get enough of this series which is perfect for us sci-fi nerds. And the icing on the cake? The performance of Ray Porter in the audiobooks! He’s just so utterly brilliant in how he narrates each and every Bob.
The humor in this series is reminiscent of Mark Watney in The Martian. If you loved Mark’s banter with himself, you’ll probably love The Bobs.
In this series, when Earth gets destroyed, the consciousness of Bob is sent off into ...more
The humor in this series is reminiscent of Mark Watney in The Martian. If you loved Mark’s banter with himself, you’ll probably love The Bobs.
In this series, when Earth gets destroyed, the consciousness of Bob is sent off into ...more

Gave up at 50%.
Heaven's River is like the latter seasons of your favorite TV show that ran out of good ideas after the series ending originally envisioned already passed and is now just an uninspired shell of its former self.
While the book started out pretty good, with the interesting space exploration stuff I loved from the original trilogy as well as a potential civil war in the Bobiverse, it soon turned into a slogfest taking place entirely on foot (with the so-called Mannies) dealing with t ...more
Heaven's River is like the latter seasons of your favorite TV show that ran out of good ideas after the series ending originally envisioned already passed and is now just an uninspired shell of its former self.
While the book started out pretty good, with the interesting space exploration stuff I loved from the original trilogy as well as a potential civil war in the Bobiverse, it soon turned into a slogfest taking place entirely on foot (with the so-called Mannies) dealing with t ...more

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I well and truly love the Bobiverse. Never having been a fan of post-human tales prior to Taylor's first book, I found myself enveloped in it, and eagerly awaiting the next one in the series. In every case prior, the series just kept getting bigger and better.
This one, however, is 14 hours of a highly detailed chase scene, whereupon the runners ultimately get caught, and magically everything turns out OK. My only complaint, but it just dragged on and on. It was a chore to get through "yet anothe ...more
This one, however, is 14 hours of a highly detailed chase scene, whereupon the runners ultimately get caught, and magically everything turns out OK. My only complaint, but it just dragged on and on. It was a chore to get through "yet anothe ...more

First of all, what a dick move to release only on audible first. Had to change from kindle to audible to read it.
But for the actual review I have to say this: it was a good story, I love Bob(s) and the sense of humor of the author. I did find the main plot like a drag, and the change of format of the story felt less satisfying and like there was much less happening, although there were a lot of seeds for new stories in the future that make me hope for more epic conflicts like in the first 3 book ...more
But for the actual review I have to say this: it was a good story, I love Bob(s) and the sense of humor of the author. I did find the main plot like a drag, and the change of format of the story felt less satisfying and like there was much less happening, although there were a lot of seeds for new stories in the future that make me hope for more epic conflicts like in the first 3 book ...more

A bit overlong, but Ray Porter's brilliant narration redeems it
The Bobiverse was an unexpected hit by an unknown author who struggled to find a publisher but signed a deal with Audible and somehow found one of the best voice narrators out there, Ray Porter, and the combination has been sheer magic. A bit like John Scalzi, Dennis E. Taylor tells clever, breezy, enjoyable SF adventures with solid science, lots of humorous geeky pop culture references like Ernest Cline's Ready Player One, and has a ...more
The Bobiverse was an unexpected hit by an unknown author who struggled to find a publisher but signed a deal with Audible and somehow found one of the best voice narrators out there, Ray Porter, and the combination has been sheer magic. A bit like John Scalzi, Dennis E. Taylor tells clever, breezy, enjoyable SF adventures with solid science, lots of humorous geeky pop culture references like Ernest Cline's Ready Player One, and has a ...more

Absolutely brilliant, entertaining and funny!! An all-time favorite for sure. I can't wait for the next one 😜
13/06/2021 - re-read via audiobook 🎧 ...more
13/06/2021 - re-read via audiobook 🎧 ...more

tldr: I remain a fan, but I hope the future is brighter for the Bobs.
I loved the original trilogy and have listened to it multiple times. It’s marriage of high concept sci-fi, deep character growth, and complex and well-woven subplots are writing at its best.
This book? None of that. Subplots are hinted at, yet never explored. Instead, the vast majority of the book is spent in the perspective of Bob #1 as he runs around pointlessly in an alien environment.
Despite being among a richly designed al ...more
I loved the original trilogy and have listened to it multiple times. It’s marriage of high concept sci-fi, deep character growth, and complex and well-woven subplots are writing at its best.
This book? None of that. Subplots are hinted at, yet never explored. Instead, the vast majority of the book is spent in the perspective of Bob #1 as he runs around pointlessly in an alien environment.
Despite being among a richly designed al ...more

My brain feels... tingly. But in a bad way. I read half yesterday and half today and I don't think I'll ever recover. 17 hours...
Ok, favorite parts.
- I love the... shoot, that's a spoiler. The otters are cool. It was a good mystery with a satisfying ending. Along with a new and now terrifying mystery.
- The otters are a bit overzealous but they try their best.
- I love every single bit of technology that gets mentioned.
Issues
- I think maybe half of Bob's journey could be trimmed down and replace ...more
Ok, favorite parts.
- I love the... shoot, that's a spoiler. The otters are cool. It was a good mystery with a satisfying ending. Along with a new and now terrifying mystery.
- The otters are a bit overzealous but they try their best.
- I love every single bit of technology that gets mentioned.
Issues
- I think maybe half of Bob's journey could be trimmed down and replace ...more

Actual rating was honestly a little lower if I looked at the writing objectively, but bumped it up simply because I enjoyed it so much. It's the perfect intersection of what I wanted to read and execution of that idea, and listening always put me in a great mood.
My husband had the privilege of regular "Bob" updates as I made my way through this series. I don't think this would really be for everyone, but if I ever found out there is a new book in this series, I'd fall into a VR lounge chair wit ...more
My husband had the privilege of regular "Bob" updates as I made my way through this series. I don't think this would really be for everyone, but if I ever found out there is a new book in this series, I'd fall into a VR lounge chair wit ...more

The fourth book in this series and significantly longer than the first three and that's my only complaint really, it felt a bit to long. Other than that a great read. (Or listen, the audio book is very good.)
I'm a sucker for SF books feature exploration and BDO's in particular (Big Dumb Objects). This one really hit the spot in that aspect as the majority of the book is centered in a topopolis. The Bob's infiltrate this structure and discover that the inhabitants have no idea they are living ins ...more
I'm a sucker for SF books feature exploration and BDO's in particular (Big Dumb Objects). This one really hit the spot in that aspect as the majority of the book is centered in a topopolis. The Bob's infiltrate this structure and discover that the inhabitants have no idea they are living ins ...more

I have been looking forward to this book ever since I read on the author's blog that he was writing another Bobiverse story. I love the Bobs and the original trilogy. It's great to find out what's happening now that humanity's been saved and the Bobs have some free time.
What's happening is that Bob One has decided to go on a search for Bender, who disappeared over a hundred years ago. Meanwhile, replicative drift is a real and the latest generation of Bobs can hardly be considered Bobs any more. ...more
What's happening is that Bob One has decided to go on a search for Bender, who disappeared over a hundred years ago. Meanwhile, replicative drift is a real and the latest generation of Bobs can hardly be considered Bobs any more. ...more

I read the first three in paperback, but this one was released as audio first so I listened to it. It was hard to keep track of who was speaking - they're all Bobs, they all sound the same! Except for a few who had distinct voices, I had a hard time telling who was narrating.
At this point, his formula is easy to follow. The Bobs find a new civilization. Things go wrong. They try to fix it. The Bobs themselves have some interpersonal drama. Fin.
There is a fractious group of Bobs who call themselv ...more
At this point, his formula is easy to follow. The Bobs find a new civilization. Things go wrong. They try to fix it. The Bobs themselves have some interpersonal drama. Fin.
There is a fractious group of Bobs who call themselv ...more

So I've finished the available Bobiverse books, and what did I think of this start to a new era for the Bob's. I liked it. I don't think it was my favorite in the series, I think that spot is still reserved for books 2 and 3 but this is the 3rd best in my opinion. This book is different from its predecessors in that it focuses on one storyline more than several converging ones. The titular Heaven's River. I'll admit I found this book dragged a bit. It is the longest in the series by far and trie
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It's interesting to a read a book written by an author in late-stage brain-poisoning-by-pop-culture. The author and his characters both delight in the act of "referencing" things. This is what Nerd Culture has come to: pretending that having watched a lot of Star Trek is a personality (and a mark of merit).
The premise remains neat, and the readability of the series benefits from lifting the video game-style progression of resource management, tech tree research, and leveling up.
I am suspicious o ...more
The premise remains neat, and the readability of the series benefits from lifting the video game-style progression of resource management, tech tree research, and leveling up.
I am suspicious o ...more

I was stoked when I first saw that this book was about double the length of the other books. And the beginning was quite exciting. But the further I got into the book, the less excited I had become. To the point that I couldn't wait for it to be over.
Heaven's River isn't bad by any means, but it's certainly not as exciting as the previous books. I mostly enjoyed the mega-structure plot, but I was almost immediately bored of the secondary plot. And the big twist ending was just very meh. It ended ...more
Heaven's River isn't bad by any means, but it's certainly not as exciting as the previous books. I mostly enjoyed the mega-structure plot, but I was almost immediately bored of the secondary plot. And the big twist ending was just very meh. It ended ...more

I'd probably give this a 3.5.
Perhaps I wasn't in quite the right mood to read this, but a Huge chunk of the book seemed unnecessary. There's a very large chunk devoted to adventures as Mannies... and, I got really really bored by it.
There were some interesting parts of the swashbuckling, including philosophical discussions and minor worldbuilding... but the worldbuilding really didn't feel interesting. The society in question just wasn't different enough from humans to be worth devoting that muc ...more
Perhaps I wasn't in quite the right mood to read this, but a Huge chunk of the book seemed unnecessary. There's a very large chunk devoted to adventures as Mannies... and, I got really really bored by it.
There were some interesting parts of the swashbuckling, including philosophical discussions and minor worldbuilding... but the worldbuilding really didn't feel interesting. The society in question just wasn't different enough from humans to be worth devoting that muc ...more

Definitely a weak return to the Bobiverse, a series of updates to different story lines strung together with a so-so adventure. I always feel the more human like a sci-fi alien species, the lazier the writer was. Never tempted to quit listening to it (audiobook), but it was nothing more than entertainment.

I am really surprised by the high ratings. The book was unnecessarily long and boring. Nothing really happened except for the last 15 minutes or so. Big departure from the previous books. If you skipped this book, you wouldn't be missing much from the Bobiverse. Narration was great.
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I had mixed feelings about books 2 & 3 which was why I put this one off, thinking it would be more of the same. So it was a pleasant surprise to find Heaven's River to be a pretty enjoyable adventure that takes a hard lean into some pretty complicated sci-fi while remaining light and accessible. A lot of the story takes place on an alien world with a unique species and culture, while going back and forth between tying up old threads and focusing on an emergent threat of a real divide within the
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Executive Summary: An unexpected but welcome addition to the Bobiverse. I felt it started a bit slow but really picked up as the book went along. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Audiobook: Ray Porter once again does a great job. I'm glad they were able to get him to continue on with this series. He does a variety of voices that really add that extra something such that I'll always do it in audio. Which is good since it's an audible exclusive.
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Audiobook: Ray Porter once again does a great job. I'm glad they were able to get him to continue on with this series. He does a variety of voices that really add that extra something such that I'll always do it in audio. Which is good since it's an audible exclusive.
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