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The Warship

(Rise of the Jain #2)

4.40  ·  Rating details ·  1,224 ratings  ·  70 reviews

Their nemesis lies in wait . . .

Orlandine has destroyed the alien Jain super-soldier by deploying an actual black hole. And now that same weapon hoovers up clouds of lethal Jain technology, swarming within the deadly accretion discs event horizon. All seems just as she planned. Yet behind her back, forces incite rebellion on her home world, planning her assassination.

Kindle Edition, 382 pages
Published May 2nd 2019 by Pan
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This is something quite amazing.
And when I say quite, I mean, "HOLY S*** what just HAPPENED here?"

It's been a while since I sat down to read SF expecting and eventually receiving a whole AWE effect. This is wide-brained high-tech imagination at its best, building on all the major developments and changes from all his previous books, giving us such massive scope and terror that both the combined might of the Polity AND the Prador are totally freaking out.

It's the Jain, folks. Their nanotech,
Chris Berko
May 18, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I hate my brain.
I usually wait until all books of a trilogy are out before I begin reading them because I am one of the most impatient people on earth when it comes to having to wait to finish stories I am really into. It's not like there aren't enough other books to read and I am pretty good about sticking to this rule. HOWEVER, the early reviews for this book are so spectacular and I've read so many other Asher novels I knew I would be able to retain the details as to what was going on with
Steven Stennett
Jan 31, 2019 rated it it was amazing
Asher Neal does this so well, A.I, exotic Alien technology, space craft that conduct ballet style battles with weapons that pulverise planets.

One of the main stayers of very readable science fiction in the new world order, where, readers hankering seems pitched for the obscure, political, social, economical, commit on the future.

Science fiction readers for me have begun to look less for a good or great read, and less for an adventure to enjoy and get lost in.

With non-binary, vegan, (which are
Tim Hicks
Jun 30, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
Not perfect, but you have to admire the sheer scope of it, and the way it ties in EVERYTHING from 20 years of previous books.

I'm pretty sure Asher lives in a regular house in England and a small one in Crete. So where is the giant warehouse with the 60' x 60' wall on which he has mapped his characters and their placements and allegiances and former bodies? How Does He Keep It All Straight? How long has he been looking forward with where this is all going?

This is 3-D chess with no pawns; all
Bryan Brown
Nov 30, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci_fi
I spent the first third or so of this book frantically trying to remember the events in The Soldier which is the first book in the Rise of the Jain series. Things did come back to me as I read, but I would recommend rereading the first book or at least finding a summary on the internet for a refresher before jumping into The Warship.

This book remains constantly complex, and has shifting points of view like most of Asher's Polity novels. The central characters though are all connected to
Apr 06, 2019 marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
PW Starred: In this riveting sequel to The Soldier, Asher ramps up the pyrotechnics in the thunderous first salvoes of war between the human/AI Polity and the xenophobic Jain culture, which humans had believed long extinct. In the first book, a single Jain soldier was revived and then destroyed by Orlandine, a cyborg haiman in control of the Jaskoran system and one of the guardians of a nearby accretion disc, a former solar system scattered with dormant Jain tech. When the Clade, a swarm AI, ...more
Martin Phillips
Jun 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Asher is quickly becoming one of my go-to authors. Can't believe it took me so long to recognize his talent, but at least I have a lot of joyful catch up reading to do through his entire works to date.

This 2nd book in the Rise of the Jain series was amazing! If you are looking for a story that is gripping, thoughtful, evocative, entertaining and HARD HARD HARD scifi, then this series is for YOU!

Unlike the first book, this 2nd one takes place entirely in one location in the galaxy. And there is
May 15, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
FYI - Prepare for a massive cliff hanger at the end of this book.

Mr. Asher knows how to scale up threats in his novels without them become cartoonish or otherwise silly. In the early Polity novels we were looking at single protagonists or limited outbreaks of Jain corruption. In this series we're way more out there than that. The first book, the Warrior, concerned a single Jain warrior causing strife amongst the other sinister characters. In this one, well, just look at the title. This book also
Jamie Rich
May 25, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The War Ship: Rise of the Jain, Book Two (Kindle Edition) by Neal Asher

This is the point at which magic becomes indistinguishable from technology.
And you just *thought* his past book, The Soldier, was incredible! Here the author turns the page from the end of that book, and into this one. No quarter is asked for nor drawn, sink or swim, you better bring your "A Game" because Neal Asher certainly does!
How ironic that so many of the most loved/hated characters are decidedly not human! But also,
Sam From the Square Groot
A middling book form one of the best sci-fi writers around.

Asher falls into many of the same tropes that have worked for him in the past, tropes which are now familiar and stifle the story and characters. Things which were fresh, new and exciting are now tired, old and mundane.
Things such as: Several powerful entities knowing most, if not all, of what is going on.
Humans are squishy and stupid.
A plan initiated by someone/something which baffles everyone, but the solution is simple.
Jun 30, 2019 rated it really liked it
Earth Central, Dragon, Trike, Orlandine, The Client and the Prador have temporarily made peace to deal with a greater threat. There is activity in the accretion discs event horizon which means the Jain are waking up. The threat of Jain technology getting out into the universe at large is too great of a threat to allow.

This novel was filled with action, suspense, betrayals and new alliances. The plot was intense with tons of battles and fights. There wasnt as high of a death count as some of his
Vincent Archer
May 13, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: hard-sf
Asher does it again.

This second book in the Rise of the Jain trilogy starts where the previous one ended, and adds more background and lore to the Polity Universe and one of its most infamous Elder Races, the Jain. We've only seen the Jain so far thru the lenses of the technology they left around which is basically a world-devourer trap. Now, we get to understand a bit better why that technology got there.

Of course, there's plenty of technology thrown around, total callous disregard for anything
Nia Sinjorina
Feb 01, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Having loved The Solider (book 1), I was desperate to begin reading the second book, but found myself annoyed at the £10 cost of an ebook. Ultimately though, I caved in (wuss!) and read the entire tome in a week.

It's all there - multilayered plot, dense technology, deep characters, very little filler, a bouncing pace. 

Which is why I am struggling to understand why I was left feeling ... disappointed. I suppose I expected more in terms of the development of the story, something that Asher is a
Fred P
Aug 19, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This series is heating up in the second installment. I love the multiple, interwoven plotlines and the foreshadowing of a cataclysmic conflict with an ancient, warrior species. From the machinations of the mysterious Wheel, to the destructive malice of an artificially intelligent swarm, there are many implacable enemies that can't be pinned down, even by the vast, artificial intelligences of the human-led Polity. Although this exists in the milieu of Asher's longtime fictional universe, the ...more
Allen Massey
Jun 24, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: audible
If you read the Soldier then of course you are going to read this book. Neal Asher is a great author and he is writing some of the best hard science fiction available. But.. as often happens with the second book in a trilogy there is a lot of stage dressing going on. Lots of time is spent positioning all the important players, explaining to the reader why they are getting ready to do the things they will need to do and so on. So while the book is certainly not boring (Asher is far too good to ...more
Phil Kozel
Dec 01, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
If you like science fiction with killer aliens, big guns and even bigger ships, this book is for you. I am a big fan of Asher, having read most of his work; I like the references to his earlier work laced throughout this! This takes place right were the soldier left off, and ends with a killer cliff hanger; one of the reasons I kept putting off reading this is that, although I was sure I would love it, he has not published the final book of the trilogy yet, leaving me waiting with baited breath. ...more
With Neal Asher's 2019 novel "Polity, Book 13; Rise of the Jain, Book 2: Warship, The," I guess I've just become burned out with the series. It's become a never-ending slog of ever increasing "leveling up" of both protagonists and antagonists. It's gotten to the point that it's really not even science fiction any more. Basically, with where everyone and everything has gotten now, these are gods just doing whatever they darn well feel like. Oh, the writing is good enough (though the story is a ...more
Robert Collins
Jun 07, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi, space-opera
The Warship where nothing is what you assume, the Jain are back and they are not what you thought they are, well the are sort of, its complicated.
This has layers of complexity, intergalactic politics, interpersonal relationships having far reaching consequences.
Asher cleverly uses "reference" extracts at the beginning of each chapter to explain the science behind the fundamental plot points; how warships travel FTL, communications, weapons, AI/human combination and others. This avoids the often
Jun 26, 2019 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Pretty standard fare for a book set in the Prador universe. Scheming AIs, enhanced humans and aliens and deep space battles.

For some reason, this didn't hold my attention as well as all the previous books. Maybe because the plot structure was becoming too predictable? And as an entity, the Client's form was a little hard to believe. How could anything like that ever evolve and survive? Possibly what irks me is that the story is still unfinished and so there are still lots of unanswered
Brian Shelby
(Same review as the first of this series, since I read them consecutively)
I enjoyed this one, like I have all of the Polity universe novels. My favorite parts are still there - interesting technology, strange alien life, action. That said, having been away from Asher for a while, the writing wasn't as poetic as others I've tried recently (Iain Banks) and the characters not as deep (Murderbot). I'll still be back for more in this trilogy and from this author, but seeking those other things
Aug 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
There are some books that I will wait to read until I am on my own in a dark room and there is no possiblity of being disturbed, and Neal Asher is always in this category. I am simply a fan. He does often go back to the same background - the Polity,the Prador,the Jain, the Hoopers yet his trilogys or stand alone novels are original in their own right. If you want quality sci-fi with an original twist look no further.
Oct 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
Of the 5 Neal Asher books I have read, this is my favourite. Even though this has a huge space opera setting, there is plenty of intimate interactions between the characters. Orlandine and Trike both go through traumatic changes and the Client who had a major role in the last book takes a step back. Dragon is not as present in this story either and he is a very interesting being. I am looking forward to seeing more of the Jain as they still have not truly rising.
Michael Latiolais
Jun 17, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is classic Asher. If you like his work, you will like this. However, I do have a complaint. I feel like I've read this story before. I like learning more about the Jain, but aside from that, this feels like very similar territory to the Technician, the fight with Erebus, the fight between Penny Royal and the Brockle, etc.
The occasional space battle is fine, but I keep hoping for more weirdness like the Weaver and Penny Royal. Even checking in on the Csorians might be interesting.
Dec 27, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Space warfare, humans, aliens, AI , human - AI -? hybrids oh my. Interesting story about the far future where Humans are ruled by AI' s and the human race has met various alien races and discovered the remaining technology of a 5 million year of very warlike a line race. Middle book in a trilogy, not a good place to start in a complex story, but entertaining nonetheless.
May 11, 2019 rated it it was amazing
Neal's writing gets better and better

Packed with hard tech weaponry and more twists and turns than ever. Happy endings come with a price as you would expect in the real world. Heroes are not perfect, villains are not just evil...or are they? The only thing more I could ask for is the return of Penny Royale in book 3 to complete the madness & genius of this series.
Aug 06, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Although it's slightly procedural plotwise and mostly sets the stage for the last installment of the trilogy, the book is fast flowing, very enjoyable and not so predictable.

I enjoyed it more than the Soldier, and I hail the Author's return to hardcore SF without the splatter/horror element prevalent in the Transformation trilogy.

Eagerly awaiting the last part of the set.
Paul Sparks
Jun 19, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I bought this book in physical form about 5 weeks ago but Neal Asher stated on social media that Peter Noble was returning to narrate the book for Audible so I have waited (not so patiently) and have binge listened to this and absolutely loved it, I am a big fan of the author and each book he releases pushes the limits for me, its great sci-fi and also great storytelling ...more
Nigel Frankcom
May 05, 2019 rated it it was amazing

Ive not found a Neal Asher book I didnt like and this one is no different. His writing has always been evocative but the man just keeps improving with age. This continuation of the Jain story will keep you awake for hours. Loved it! More please!
Sep 04, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
As usual great stuff

The best hard SF writer out there. Frankly maybe the only one in the business that is even close to rational or seems to even think about the consequences of technology
Sep 09, 2019 rated it really liked it
It didnt disappoint!

Asher continue to develop the polity universe in the same fast paced way of his battles! He has a uncanny ability to develop the technology described on his books, matching the chronological evolution of the same!
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