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Jordanetics: A Journey Into the Mind of Humanity's Greatest Thinker
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Jordan Peterson is believed by many to be the greatest thinker that humanity has ever known. He is Father Figure, Philosopher-King, and Prophet to the millions of young men who are his most fervent fans and followers. He is the central figure of the Intellectual Dark Web, an academic celebrity, and an unparalleled media phenomenon who has shattered all conceptions of what
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November 19th 2018
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Wew, look how far I've come this year, lol (link to my previous review of Jordan B. Peterson's 12 Rules for Life). My more accurate rating is a 4.5, though it could change to a 5 over time. There were a lot of good things about this book that helped me to better understand 12 Rules for Life, as well as its author Jordan B. Peterson, more clearly.
My main complaint with this book is that I wish Vox had been a little more exact with his citations. I'm not that well-read, and Vox brought up quite a ...more
My main complaint with this book is that I wish Vox had been a little more exact with his citations. I'm not that well-read, and Vox brought up quite a ...more
A convincing argument for Christians
Take Mr. Peterson's 12 Rules as they are and run with them. Good habits and sensible associative choices will serve you well. Best of all, they can be got for free from the Chapter title previews. Run, and run far away from Jordan Peterson's expansion and explication of his rules. They do not serve a healthy mind. Vox Day cuts through the roundabout-ation and allusive language, the faked citations and esoterica to expose Mr. Peterson's moral philosophy. It has ...more
Take Mr. Peterson's 12 Rules as they are and run with them. Good habits and sensible associative choices will serve you well. Best of all, they can be got for free from the Chapter title previews. Run, and run far away from Jordan Peterson's expansion and explication of his rules. They do not serve a healthy mind. Vox Day cuts through the roundabout-ation and allusive language, the faked citations and esoterica to expose Mr. Peterson's moral philosophy. It has ...more
Didn't finish, too much strawmanning.
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Unlike Vox’s earlier work SJWs Always Lie (which I heartily recommend), Jordanetics has an unacceptable signal/noise ratio. Vox and Peterson are co-belligerents inn the cultural war against key tenets of progressivism, but they disagree on major issues of race and tactics, at the very least. And Vox is annoyed about it.
Peterson has some very real failings, and Vox pegged some of them in the opening chapters of this book. There may be more in the later chapters, but I doubt I’ll ever get to them ...more
Peterson has some very real failings, and Vox pegged some of them in the opening chapters of this book. There may be more in the later chapters, but I doubt I’ll ever get to them ...more
Into something; falls short.
Day clearly IS onto something regarding Petersonian "word salad" and potentially surreptitious ambitions; however, one gets the feeling he is more or less rambling on, and oftentimes extending his inferences beyond plausible deniability. I say this as one who has been reigning in his once unquestioned loyalty and infatuation with Peterson. Also, there are far too many pages filled with YouTube conversations. This is a downfall, because Day employs them to show how the ...more
Day clearly IS onto something regarding Petersonian "word salad" and potentially surreptitious ambitions; however, one gets the feeling he is more or less rambling on, and oftentimes extending his inferences beyond plausible deniability. I say this as one who has been reigning in his once unquestioned loyalty and infatuation with Peterson. Also, there are far too many pages filled with YouTube conversations. This is a downfall, because Day employs them to show how the ...more
7/10. Surprised.
This deserves a proper review, which I might have time for soon.
Better than I thought, not as good as I hoped. I'm still somewhat of a fan of Peterson, but Day makes points I've intuited and marshalls evidence for them. Nevertheless he sometimes goes too far or completely off-topic - I'd like to see Vox Day write a book about Vox Day. This should be read by all Peterson fans and haters alike. ...more
This deserves a proper review, which I might have time for soon.
Better than I thought, not as good as I hoped. I'm still somewhat of a fan of Peterson, but Day makes points I've intuited and marshalls evidence for them. Nevertheless he sometimes goes too far or completely off-topic - I'd like to see Vox Day write a book about Vox Day. This should be read by all Peterson fans and haters alike. ...more
I tried to read this book but it is too rambling. The author spliced everything with quotes and pages of it are random YouTube comments. Glad I didn't actually buy it.
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I listened to this on audiobook and did not take notes, so this review is entirely from memory.
Vox gives an extremely uncharitable take on Peterson, through the prism of the latter's "12 Rules for Life" book. The core of the book takes these rules one by one, and each chapter concludes by revealing the true, hidden rule, based on Vox's reading of the supporting text:
1. Stand up straight with your shoulders back.
Translation: Be mediocre.
2. Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helpi ...more
Vox gives an extremely uncharitable take on Peterson, through the prism of the latter's "12 Rules for Life" book. The core of the book takes these rules one by one, and each chapter concludes by revealing the true, hidden rule, based on Vox's reading of the supporting text:
1. Stand up straight with your shoulders back.
Translation: Be mediocre.
2. Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helpi ...more
Jarring read
The Kavanaugh tw*et was a shocker for me. I knew vaguely that Vox Day was negative before that but its occurrence was a real red flag. How could anyone not of the hard core left suggest throwing away a nominally constitutionalist Supreme Court appointment selected by a sitting president under constant attack to appease the unappeasable left in a country not his own? In particular, Dr. Jordan Peterson? What would come next? Did he not know? Vox Day has some insights. Though not yet ha ...more
The Kavanaugh tw*et was a shocker for me. I knew vaguely that Vox Day was negative before that but its occurrence was a real red flag. How could anyone not of the hard core left suggest throwing away a nominally constitutionalist Supreme Court appointment selected by a sitting president under constant attack to appease the unappeasable left in a country not his own? In particular, Dr. Jordan Peterson? What would come next? Did he not know? Vox Day has some insights. Though not yet ha ...more
I've always tried to look for "disconfirming" evidence or find opposing views. With the rise of Jordan Peterson, it was a bit surprising to see there was an opposing view to his works.
I've just had a quick once over and am intrigued enough to want to go over the book again but this time in a more detailed and focused manner.
Vox Day (Theodore Robert Beale) presents a logical breakdown of Jordan Petersons works. He systematically goes through Petersons "12 Rules For Life" and "Maps Of Meaning" and ...more
I've just had a quick once over and am intrigued enough to want to go over the book again but this time in a more detailed and focused manner.
Vox Day (Theodore Robert Beale) presents a logical breakdown of Jordan Petersons works. He systematically goes through Petersons "12 Rules For Life" and "Maps Of Meaning" and ...more
2 stars for...the effort of writing a book. I guess.
This guy Vox is waaay too smart to be so stupid and silly.
Right from the beginning I was skeptical because of the foreword by Milo Yiannopoulos. Fantastic way to assure your book will be taken seriously! (sarcasm) Although the foreword WAS really interesting...it's Milo. Who takes that guy seriously?
This book is literally a paranoid load of articulated hot garbage. The author clearly has a personal issue with Peterson, and Jews. Maybe the iss ...more
This guy Vox is waaay too smart to be so stupid and silly.
Right from the beginning I was skeptical because of the foreword by Milo Yiannopoulos. Fantastic way to assure your book will be taken seriously! (sarcasm) Although the foreword WAS really interesting...it's Milo. Who takes that guy seriously?
This book is literally a paranoid load of articulated hot garbage. The author clearly has a personal issue with Peterson, and Jews. Maybe the iss ...more
Vox Day is an interesting character. There are people who will question anything. And anyone. And even though to most human beings, they can be a massive pain in the ***, they are necessary to potentially pinpoint wrongdoing or intellectual dishonesty.
I really enjoyed reading The irrational atheist , which was a great scrutiny of the arguments brought forth by the four horsemen Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennet and Harris.
This book, however, is little more than a twohundred-page rant of a manifestly ...more
I really enjoyed reading The irrational atheist , which was a great scrutiny of the arguments brought forth by the four horsemen Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennet and Harris.
This book, however, is little more than a twohundred-page rant of a manifestly ...more
I think a glaring issue with JBP, which came to be apparent during the Sam Harris debate, is that he's a "fake darwinian". The other IDW guys are, too, but this is a review of Jordanetics.
He affects this appearance of being a darwinian (Dewey inspired?) and churns out what should be considered catastrophic failures to reason out of that perspective. Denying the role of relatedness in social interaction is a colossal error. Reading the Selfish Gene should be enough to convey the problem with that ...more
He affects this appearance of being a darwinian (Dewey inspired?) and churns out what should be considered catastrophic failures to reason out of that perspective. Denying the role of relatedness in social interaction is a colossal error. Reading the Selfish Gene should be enough to convey the problem with that ...more
Something is 'off' with this author. I can't quite put my finger on it. Based on the title, I honestly thought that the book was written as someone who likes JP. Well, it turns it is a huge tirade against the man and his work. Quite a bizarre way to entice a reader.
His writing is quite engaging and I even share many of his criticisms on JP and his book 12 rules for life which is covered in detail. Jordan is an interesting man who I've been following quite intently these last 2-3 years since he ...more
His writing is quite engaging and I even share many of his criticisms on JP and his book 12 rules for life which is covered in detail. Jordan is an interesting man who I've been following quite intently these last 2-3 years since he ...more
full disclosure on two points:
1. Ive enjoyed some of Jordan Peterson's work.
2. I did not finish this book....here is why.
Chapter 3 was comprised of a youtube video transcript and some comments posted to it and Chapter 4 consisted of even more youtube comments. it was painfully boring to read. And that's just it, the book was dull.
Also, the criticisms he raises against Peterson in the first part of the book were mostly unimpressive. He did bring up some good points, but most of it was cherry-pi ...more
1. Ive enjoyed some of Jordan Peterson's work.
2. I did not finish this book....here is why.
Chapter 3 was comprised of a youtube video transcript and some comments posted to it and Chapter 4 consisted of even more youtube comments. it was painfully boring to read. And that's just it, the book was dull.
Also, the criticisms he raises against Peterson in the first part of the book were mostly unimpressive. He did bring up some good points, but most of it was cherry-pi ...more
Vox Day makes a strong case that Jordan Peterson is insane, a con man, or a cult leader in this no-holds barred book. As many other comments have stated, it is not so much the strength of Vox’s analysis as its superiority over Peterson’s word! For a man that selects his words “very carefully,” Peterson is revealed to be intentionally vague and misleading. I must admit that Vox’s claim that Peterson is esoteric and occult is not proven - it is merely the best possible explanation. Anyone interest
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A necessary rebuttal
I will need to return to edit more into the review. For now , I will share some details that stood out to me.
1. It was a mistake for Milo's intro to insinuate that Peterson has inappropriate feelings for his daughter. It puts the reader off early. Vox is more effective at quoting Peterson's actual creepy writing about his relatives.
2. Vox spends too much time quoting YouTube comments to establish what Peterson's followers are like. I, as a reader, naturally discount internet ...more
I will need to return to edit more into the review. For now , I will share some details that stood out to me.
1. It was a mistake for Milo's intro to insinuate that Peterson has inappropriate feelings for his daughter. It puts the reader off early. Vox is more effective at quoting Peterson's actual creepy writing about his relatives.
2. Vox spends too much time quoting YouTube comments to establish what Peterson's followers are like. I, as a reader, naturally discount internet ...more
The Future Cult of Broken Man Babies Created by the Greatest Man Baby of all!
This book is well worth your time and an easy read to bout. This book is a deeper dive into the Voxaversity Video "The Madness of Jordan Peterson". If you didn't find the video convincing or that he hasn't taken the time to look into what mister JP is up, to than this book will answer that for you. Vox Day breaks down what will be the next major Cult (Post Christian ) Religion in a few years. Along with the truly clever ...more
This book is well worth your time and an easy read to bout. This book is a deeper dive into the Voxaversity Video "The Madness of Jordan Peterson". If you didn't find the video convincing or that he hasn't taken the time to look into what mister JP is up, to than this book will answer that for you. Vox Day breaks down what will be the next major Cult (Post Christian ) Religion in a few years. Along with the truly clever ...more
A thorough debunking of a popular charlatan
Vox pulls no punches as he goes chapter by chapter through Peterson's best selling "12 Rules for Life". If you're like me, you attempted to read (listen in my case) to 12 Rules and couldn't make sense of 90% of it. Thankfully, Vox put the time in to analyze the book and the results are nothing short of brutal. If you have doubts or confusion about Peterson, you owe it to yourself to read this book and see the truth. Highly recommended. ...more
Vox pulls no punches as he goes chapter by chapter through Peterson's best selling "12 Rules for Life". If you're like me, you attempted to read (listen in my case) to 12 Rules and couldn't make sense of 90% of it. Thankfully, Vox put the time in to analyze the book and the results are nothing short of brutal. If you have doubts or confusion about Peterson, you owe it to yourself to read this book and see the truth. Highly recommended. ...more
Watching one grifter drop bombs on another grifter is normally a really fun experience and at times it is here too although Vox spends most of his time creating filler material surrounding how other people critiqued him for critiquing Peterson.
Whilst Theo isn't wrong at all times here that Peterson is nothing special, it's a lot of pot calling the kettle black that leads to a very drab read. ...more
Whilst Theo isn't wrong at all times here that Peterson is nothing special, it's a lot of pot calling the kettle black that leads to a very drab read. ...more
the sophistry of jordan peterson is eviscerated in this book. it makes his misuse of evidence and his ignorance on practically every topic he writes/speaks on manifestly clear. the only criticism i'd give it is that the reconstruction of his politics and his aims seems at times little more than a surmise.
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Vital read
Thank you Vox! Like many others I was initially excited by JPs apparent SJW resistance. The anecdotal stories of improvement from the 12 rules was encouraging to see. I read through chapter 9 and couldn't continue due to an amorphous sense of heaviness. Your book has defined what I was unable to express. Thanks so much!
See you on the Darkstream👍 ...more
Thank you Vox! Like many others I was initially excited by JPs apparent SJW resistance. The anecdotal stories of improvement from the 12 rules was encouraging to see. I read through chapter 9 and couldn't continue due to an amorphous sense of heaviness. Your book has defined what I was unable to express. Thanks so much!
See you on the Darkstream👍 ...more
Sounds like some personal feud caused by betrayal. In this book that should've been an Internet rant the author repeatedly obliterates the strawman of Peter Jordan. The few valid criticism are repeated many times, over and over in an attempt to bolster the frankly absurd accusations of charlatanery.
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A vengeful rant by a disgruntled Alt-Righter who’s disdain for a flawed/well meaning pop-psychologist eludes me. I can respect people with sincere criticisms (many of his criticisms I share) but this qualifies as little more than character Assassination. He’s connecting the dots to make Dr. Peterson seem like a monster.
I may re-read this book after reading Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life, though I did think that the author made some valid critiques of his subject. I would, however, have to reserve judgment on several of his points for the time being.
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This is a typical case of jealous mice prostituting themselves in an act of personal vendetta against a mighty lion - Jordan Peterson. It's like a lunatic fringe of atheistic religion deeply buried in their intellectual caves, attacking Jesus Christ. We have seen this before, haven't we?
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This book could have been much more enjoyable if the author didn't spend half his writing in bantering. Okay, we get it, Jordan B. Peterson is a charlatan, now can we move on to exposing facts without posing him as the devil himself every two phrases?
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If there are any lobster loyalists out there, throw this book at them and pray they’ll read it. So many young men were put under a spell with Peterson (myself included) but this book does an excellent job at exploiting this Canadian charlatan for the fraud he is.
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Well written, easy to read. Sobering perspective on the sudden popularity of JBP. Snapped me out of my uncritical consumption of You Tube videos.
Well written, easy to read. Sobering perspective on the sudden popularity of JBP. Snapped me out of my uncritical consumption of You Tube videos.
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I read this book. I liked it. Fox did a good job exposing Jordan b Peterson for the nut job he is.
I read this book. I liked it. Fox did a good job exposing Jordan b Peterson for the nut job he is.
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