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Gods and Robots: The Ancient Quest for Artificial Life

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The fascinating untold story of how the ancients imagined robots and other forms of artificial life--and even invented real automated machines

The first robot to walk the earth was a bronze giant called Talos. This wondrous machine was created not by MIT Robotics Lab, but by Hephaestus, the Greek god of invention. More than 2,500 years ago, long before medieval automata, an
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Hardcover, 275 pages
Published November 13th 2018 by Princeton University Press (first published November 2018)
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Carlex
May 24, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Three and half stars.

Gods and Robots intends to make a comparison between the ancient myths -mostly greek and roman- and our modern science fiction dreams.

As I said, the book is just a comparison, it does not explain a cause effect or an influence between classical myths and contemporary science fiction stories. It is clear that the author is an expert in classical mythology but not in the science fiction genre. However she is well informed and the comparisons are clever. And, above all, the my
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Peter Tillman
I had this out for quite awhile from the library. First few chapters were hit-or-miss, so I set it aside. When it was coming due, I picked it up again and -- it got better! So, had she hooked me at the start, I'd likely have read the whole thing. So, if you try it, skim until you find something compelling, is my advice. There is some good stuff here. Those ancient engineers and craftsman were remarkable. Maybe I'll try again? But so many books....

Rating is for what I read. Something over half? I
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Peter (Pete) Mcloughlin
It appears people in the ancient world imagined creatures crafted by gods or sorcerors that seem akin to Robots, Be it Haephestus building Talos or Medea conjuring creatures that are made not born. People have imagined artificial life longer than we imagine. That is not to say that these ideas exactly match our ideas of AI or Robots but there does seem to be a relationship in the ancient myths to our modern ideas however vague.
Jacopo Quercia
Jun 30, 2019 rated it it was amazing
First and foremost, WOW!

'Gods and Robots: The Ancient Quest for Artificial Life' is a remarkable achievement that will completely transform the way you look at Ancient Greece. Written by Stanford University Prof. Adrienne Mayor, this book is an exhaustive study on how the Greeks approached artificial / augmented life creatively, artistically, and even practically. You will not believe how closely the imagination of the ancients resembles the modern era with respect to artificial life, robotics,
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Ben
Dec 11, 2018 rated it really liked it
'Taken together, the myths, legends, and lore of past cultures about automata, robots, replicants, animated statues, extended human powers, self-moving machines, and other artificial beings, and the authentic technological wonders that followed, constitute a virtual library and museum of ancient wisdom and experiments in thinking, a priceless resource for understanding the fundamental challenges of biotechnology and synthetic life on the brink today. A goal of this book has been to suggest that ...more
Lindsay
I DNF'd this, but not because it's a bad book. The information is interesting but it reads like an academic paper. The author compares and contrasts a lot of theories and analyses put forth by other experts in the fields of mythology, philosophy, ethics, robitics, AI, and the technology of ancient civilizations. Unfortunately, I don't have a particular interest or good enough base knowledge in any of those topics to actually get much out of this book. I felt like I stumbled into a 301 class inst ...more
Erkan Saka
Jan 03, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sts
It is impressive to see how ancient imaginations can be connected to STS thinking.
Daniel
Dec 12, 2018 rated it it was amazing
I have long contended that we can trace the origins of fantasy fiction to ancient myth. And now, with this meticulously researched book, I am able to argue that we can also trace the origins of Science Fiction to mythology.

Adrienne Mayor has written a book which provides further evidence of the versatility of myth. And another means to find new meanings in these (very) old stories.

As her book strengthens the case for the study of myth, she also shows how myth has helped scholars, scientists, cra
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Angela Boord
Dec 17, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: history
Really interesting subject matter, but the book seems unsure whether it's written to an academic or general audience, so it can be a little dry at times. The collection and analysis of the myths together with the archaeological discoveries and historical accounts that illuminate them is fantastic.
Ninja
Sep 11, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book provides some evidence to show that humans have always imagined robots and machines as part of an underlying thread that we have carried with us throughout history. It's a great read in the sense that she goes deep into a narrow slice of the human literary tradition. Mayor tries to show that ancient stories, primarily of the Greek and Roman gods, and their complicated relationship with the human race, were a way for these civilizations to imagine automaton, robots, androids, and human ...more
Elentarri
This is an interesting and informative overview of what ancient myths (mostly Greek and Roman, but a few others) have to say about machines, robots, artificial intelligence (i.e. creatures made not born) and their implied philosophical questions. Mayor provides an eye-opening and transformative manner of looking at the ancient myths. I enjoyed this scholarly book a great deal.
Naum
Nov 12, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Good, but anticipated liking this more than I did.
Audrey
Nov 11, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Informative and interesting, if a bit dry! Also, I have never read a book that used the word "antiquity" so frequently as this one.

Overall a really interesting read that recaps many Greek myths and relates them to modern concepts of robotics and artificial intelligence. If you're hoping for a comprehensive, globe-spanning look at robots in mythology, you'll be disappointed, as Eastern mythologies are touched upon very slightly, while Norse, Celtic, Maori, and many other mythologies aren't mentio
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Bryan Cebulski
It was entertaining and had some interesting stories, but I wish it had more intellectual strivings or something. Like, there's not much analysis here. More just a long list of "Hey, you like pop culture X? Well the classical world had an antecedent in Y".
Cindie
Mar 04, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Very redundant and text book like. Although I liked the subject matter, I grew tired of the constant review or reference to other chapters, especially if the information was repeated again.
Margaret
Mar 11, 2019 rated it really liked it
Shelves: ancient-history
What it says on the cover.

Looks at Daedalus, Prometheus, Hephaestus and their mythological influence on ancient creators and their modern counterparts.

Extremely interesting read.
Thomas
This is a fascinating journey through ancient Greek mythology while touching on other mythologies along the way.

This is not so much a revelation is a reinterpretation, a different way of looking at those old myths and ideas through the lens of automation and artificial life. I know some might object to the idea of the ancient Greeks thinking in those terms, but there's no way to say for certain that none of them did. This notion that we can't think beyond technological precedent is absurd. Speak
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Michael Hauge
Oct 07, 2020 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: nonfiction
"Gods and Robots" is at once too broad and too narrow; too academic and too conversational; too technical and too simplistic. A more appropriate subtitle might specify that the overwhelming focus of the book is on Greek myth, with lip service paid to Chinese and Indian civilizations. I was frustrated throughout by the maddening half-academic style, full of three-word quotations of unnamed scholars and references to itself ('see chapter 3,' for example). I would have preferred to either read an a ...more
Martti
Jul 09, 2019 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
This is a masterclass of overthinking and 20/20 hindsight. Everybody knows the Greek mythology is a rich world of wonders and hate, godlike humans and human-like gods. And since they are told/written as timeless stories, they are specifically extremely vague so your imagination can fill the holes by whatever means your current environment allows. So of course the author finds robots, androids, nanomaterials and other "magic" that nowdays means "science" everywhere in the historical tellings. The ...more
Andrei Barbu
Nov 12, 2019 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Racist, narrow, ahistorical, shallow, and lazy.

This book is disappointing and intentionally mismarketed. I doubt most people would read it after an honest description. The vast majority of the book is just looking at the same Greek myths over and over again reinterpreting them in absurd and ahistorical ways. There's just about one chapter to do with technology or machines here. Otherwise it's only myths and only Greek myths, as if there was nothing else in the ancient world.

Pretending that nothi
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Ryan Denson
Dec 26, 2018 rated it really liked it
Adrienne Mayor’s Gods and Robots broadly examines the theme of biotechne and myths about living things that are “made, not born” in the ancient world. Mythological inventors and craftsman deities like Daedalus and Hephaestus take center stage here as Mayor describes a wide range of αὐτόματα and other artificial creations. This also includes real life tinkers and the inventions actually created (or at least planned), especially in Hellenistic Alexandria. Defining what constitutes something that i ...more
Nils
A beautifully written, lavishly illustrated, and highly thought-provoking account of how the concerns with automatons and human enhancement are not just modern but indeed ancient. Focused mainly on Greek mythology, but with glances at other mythological traditions, Mayor argues that the concerns of the present about AI and gene-editing are not merely the products of new technology but have abided within Western thought for millennia. My only critique is that she pays little attention to how the ...more
Curt Bobbitt
Jul 26, 2020 rated it liked it
This study uses numerous ancient sources beyond Homer and the well-known Greek tragedians to describe objects “made, not born.” The bibliography lists 251 sources, 92 published since 2009. The most in-depth sections elaborate legendary creations of Hephaestus and Daedalus.

Many of the fictional objects described conflate magic with technology, especially details about Medea’s extension of Aeson’s life span and tricking Pelias’s daughters into killing their father.
The least persuasive sections d
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A.R. Davis
Jun 16, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Mayor assembles a fascinating picture of artificial life being born in mythology and emerging into the real world during ancient times. This is a scholarly work, not a work of popular science. For me, that was perfect, as I used it for background research for my latest sci-fi novel, Turing’s Nightmares. There is repetition though, as Mayor takes ancient myths, stories, dramas, and fragments of manuscripts, jewelry, painted pottery, complete or in shards, and pieces them together in various patte ...more
Mike
May 21, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Another fine book by a favorite of mine, Adrienne Mayor.
I didn't read the kindle edition, but the actual print book.
I really want to give this book an "A" rather than a "B", but I had a problem with the fuzzy sets way of dealing with biotechne.
Good job trying to define these overlapping categories, but some of them needed sharper definition.
The story about the Stupas and the robot guards was worth the read all alone, and I really enjoyed the overall topic. I was waiting for a little more of a
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Emily Auger
Jul 05, 2019 rated it it was amazing
Fascinating book detailing the representation of artificial beings and AI in ancient Greek mythology and art. Hephaestus, Medea, Daedalus, Pygmalion, and Prometheus are the star players. Their basic stories will be familiar to many readers, but Mayor's accomplishment is all in the research, details, and overall compilation. Very readable, lots of illustrations, lots of pithy myth-sourced anecdotes, and lots of parallels to contemporary counterparts in science fiction and in science reality. Enjo ...more
Pandaduh
Really 2.5, but I rounded up because we don't get many books like this.

The history parts were good in this but whenever she tried to tie in pop culture it seemed like she wasn't giving it her all. There's another book that focuses in on some of what she does here called _My Fair Ladies: Female Robots, Androids, and Other Artificial Eves_ that was a tad more academic and gripping for me.

You can read my reviews here: https://blackandwhitepandaduh.wordpre...
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Edward
May 04, 2019 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Rambling and disorganized, this book is in dire need of editing, and should be about 70% shorter. Single paragraphs would lose their way after the first sentence, and a bulk of the material is a repetition of the same shallow analysis of three or four core myths. Expect to be bombarded with ancient names, but with no follow up discussion on their relevance or contributions. There were some interesting facts, and source material is well documented, thus the second star.
Jeanne
Oct 07, 2020 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: non-fiction
I'm not sure what I was expecting, but this wasn't it. I'm giving it 3 stars because I did take something away from it (and weirdly it helped as I started reading Circe around the same time), but overall I found it hard to follow. The topic was fascinating but the presentation was a bit boring and it struggled to hold my attention.

This is one of those "I'm glad I read it but didn't love it" books for me.
Sineala
Jan 05, 2019 rated it really liked it
An interesting overview of the ideas of robots and androids and how they relate to (mostly) Greek myth, as well as some information about various mechanical devices that the Greeks actually came up with.

My favorite chapter, for a certain value of "favorite," was the one about how apparently a lot of men were sexually attracted to statues and it wasn't just a Galatea thing.
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