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The Phoenix Empress

(Their Bright Ascendency #2)

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The Phoenix Empress, the sequel to K Arsenault Rivera's wildly buzzed about The Tiger's Daughter, an epic historical fantasy in the vein of Patrick Rothfuss and Naomi Novik.

Since she was a child, the divine empress O Shizuka has believed she was an untouchable god. When her uncle, ruler of the Hokkaran Empire, sends her on a suicide mission as a leader of the Imperial
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Paperback, 544 pages
Published October 9th 2018 by Tor Books
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Cesar
Nov 12, 2018 rated it did not like it
1 star.

"An epic historical fantasy in the vein of Patrick Rothfuss and Naomi Novik."

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That would be an insult to Rothfuss and Novik.

By far, the worst book I have read in 2018. This is not an exaggeration. This is my 100% honest thought: I hated The Phoenix Empress. Hated it. I can't even begin to describe how much I disliked my reading experience.

Throughout this novel, I tried, I really, really, really tried to like it. I tried to find the positives. What I found was nothing but flowery prose that
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Kathy
The Phoenix Empress picks up where The Tiger's Daughter left off, with Shizuka and Shefali reunited after eight years apart. Shefali returns to find Shizuka crowned empress and drowning herself in alcohol, while Shefali herself is dealing with demons of her own (quite literally) and the fact that she is dying.

So, despite some issues with The Tiger's Daughter, I did quite like the relationship between the two main characters; while over-dramatic at times, I'd found it romantic and addictive for
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Acqua
Nov 19, 2018 rated it liked it
I didn't like this sequel as much as the first book. There are many reasons for that, and I'm going to get into them soon, but the main one is that I'm reading this series for its f/f romance more than the plot, and at least 40% of this book follows the years Shizuka spent alone.

What I Liked:
The writing is, as usual, beautiful.
I loved reading Shizuka's perspective. She has more depth as a character than Shefali's narration in the first book made me think. She is overconfident to the point of
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Alice
May 22, 2018 added it
Shelves: no-thanks
Not a review. Goodreads won't let me put this on my "no thanks" shelf without putting it as a book I've read or want to read. The first one was eww (I mean culturally, don't at me because you wanted a wlw story and the racism in TD didn't bother you), so I'll politely say no thanks to this one unless I hear it's revolutionarily good and fixes all the shit I had problems with in the previous installment.

The only thing I agree with in the Tiger's Daughter is that 8 times 4 is 32.
Aoife
2.5-3 stars

I received an e-copy of this book from Pan Macmillan in exchange for an honest review.

The Phoenix Empress is the sequel to The Tiger's Daughter - an expansive fantasy novel in which readers are first introduced to Quorin warrior Barsalyya Shefali, and her best friend, wife, and Empress O Shizuka.

In The Phoenix Empress, we finally learn what happened to O Shizuka in the eight years she and Shefali were separated after Shefali was banished by Shizuka's uncle, the Emperor. I really
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Beth Rosser
Aug 25, 2018 rated it it was amazing
I love these books. I have been lucky enough to read both thanks to Netgalley and the publisher, and I'm so grateful. The way the prose is written, I just find very beautiful. I find that the story truly immerses me in the worlds that Rivera has created with distinctive cultures, traditions, and stories.

I enjoyed being able to learn more about the Traitor in this book, and the role he has played in shaping the land and the blackbloods.

It was also nice to see how both Shizuka and Shefali have
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Kate
Nov 25, 2018 rated it it was ok
Shelves: read-in-2018
2/5stars

Ridiculously boring. Also weirdly more confusing than the first book?? Things were bugging me way more in this book than the first, maybe its the difference in format (letters in the first vs this one which is a normal POV) and also the amount of honorifics in this book got to be WAY too much. Names were getting even more muddled than the first one when i actually cared enough to pay attention.

The writing is beautiful and i love the f/f relationship but other than that, this was
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Lindsay
Oct 01, 2019 rated it it was amazing
“My father used to say that poetry came to him from silence- but not just any silence. The moment between a few drop’s fall and impact [...] the space between two heartbeats. These things are perfect silences. Within them he heard the whispers of truth.

As a child, I believed every word of this.
As a young woman, I thought it sentimental nonsense.
As a woman grown, as a general- I heard the perfect silence then, and I hear the truth’s whisper.”

My rating for this book is purely based around my
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Ana
Giving up on this a little over the halfway mark because I couldn’t bring myself to care about any of it: an awfully boring non-existent plot with flashbacks of something you already know had happened; boring characters – I wasn’t a huge fan of the first book, I thought it was just okay, so here we have more of the same; vague worldbuilding – all that flowery prose does little more than building castles in the air, spending too much time describing things that have almost no relevance to the ...more
Jamie (Books and Ladders)
Jan 27, 2019 rated it did not like it
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DNF @ 35%

I just couldn't force myself to read anymore. Where the first one allowed us to learn the entire story at once and really feel like we were involved because of the second person tense, this book scrapped all that in favour of purple prose, horrible characters, and a huge lapse in time while knowing the "end" which takes away all the intrigue and mystery. I may try again but probably not.
Steven
Oct 12, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Full of pain and sorrow - and I want more!

Absolutely spell-binding. With the Tigers Daughter i said it's the kind of book you finish and don't know what to read next, as nothing can really compare. It's no different with the Phoenix Empress. Equally as eloquent and well thought out as the first book, but this one cuts deeper. I had honestly wondered how the author would be able to continue the series in the same vein as the Tigers Daughter, since that was largely told in the form of a love
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Colin
Dec 04, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
My current favorite fantasy series!

A worthy sequel to The Tiger's Daughter, Rivera continues her wonderfully subversive Silk-Road fantasy series in a not-Asia that is skillfully and intricately constructed, even down to small details like the honorifics added to each character's name in dialogue. The protagonists are icons of feminism, multiculturalism, LGBTQ representation . . . And they're great! I absolutely love everything about this series!
Savannah Holland
Nov 17, 2019 rated it really liked it
3.75
Tbh I really could have used a recap before this book. While the writing is gorgeous it really doesn’t lend itself to easy recall so I feel I just accepted a lot of things rather than understanding them
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Jenna
Nov 24, 2018 rated it it was amazing
The Phoenix Empress is a book I thoroughly enjoyed. I adored The Tigers Daughter so I was really excited to lean more about the characters and the world K Arsenault Rivera has created.

The strongest aspect of The Phoenix Empress is the characterization. The two main characters are exceptionally well drawn and their personalities are complex and interesting. Their romance is believable and often adorable, and the scenes I enjoyed the most were the the two of them just spending time together. This
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Mindy'sBookJourney
Nov 09, 2018 rated it really liked it
The Phoenix Empress is the second novel in Their Bright Ascendancy adult fantasy trilogy. This series is very unique in a lot of wonderful ways. The main characters are female warriors and leaders prosperous despite cultural norms. There is also a prominent female/female relationship even though this was not easily accepted in this world. I also enjoyed the setting of this epic historical fantasy series. There are not many fantasy novels with an Asian like setting. These are the elements that ...more
Colleen Corgel
Dec 07, 2018 rated it it was amazing
This series just continues to impress! This second volume pretty much starts off right when the events of the first book end, with Shefali and Shizuka finally reunited. However, as much as Shefali anticipated her "condition" to deteriorate in the years they've been apart, it is Shizuka that seems the most broken. Shizuka is now the Empress with the burdens of a kingdom and her earlier actions weighing her down. The pair must navigate this new aspect of their relationship, along with the news ...more
Mary
Oct 30, 2018 marked it as dnf  ·  review of another edition
There were many things that I loved about the first book in this series. That's why I immediately requested it when I saw it on Netgalley (and to give you perspective, I RARELY request books any more as I have so many TBR.) Anyway, I was excited about this one. Unfortunately I just couldn't get into the story. I would read a page or two and put it down to do something else. I'm technically putting this in my "On Hold" shelf as I may come back to it at a future date. But, for now, it just isn't ...more
Yunhi
Feb 24, 2019 rated it liked it
I don’t like this book as much as the first one. This story is much too long for the story it telling. I was flying to get to the end, getting tired of the story. I think the author could have dropped 1/3 of the pages.
Leah Rachel von Essen
Oct 07, 2018 rated it really liked it
The Phoenix Empress, the sequel to K. Arsenault Rivera’s debut The Tiger’s Daughter, doesn’t pack quite as much of a punch as its predecessor. Shefali and Shizuka are reunited, but they have each changed. Shefali is dying. Shizuka has become Empress, and is haunted by nightmares.

I’ll begin with the bad. Shizuka is a more irritating narrator than Shefali, over-indulgent, especially at first. The appropriation issue that many reviewers raised about The Tiger’s Daughter remains an issue, although
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Kend
Oct 18, 2018 rated it really liked it
Shelves: fantastical
I am about the worst possible reader in the world, by which I mean I decided to read this book without first having read its predecessor, the first in the Their Bright Ascendancy series, The Tiger's Daughter. So yes, I have committed many crimes against both humanity and fantasy, although it's difficult to parse how much my lack of reading scruples may have affected my reception of this particular book.

On which note, the book! It's massive! It's queer! It's a massive massively queer fantasy
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Evelyn
Oct 05, 2018 rated it it was ok
Shelves: 2018-release, arc, 2018
Thanks to NetGalley for providing this e-arc!

Unfortunately I did not really like this sequel..

Full review: http://evelynreads.com/review-the-pho...
Karina
Rating: 4.5 Stars: 1/2
The Phoenix Empress is a book that surprised me in so many ways! As with Tiger, the world-building is expansive, writing is descriptive & immersive, the complex plot is woven in ways that I was not expecting! The empowering + expansive cast of female characters are all unique and inspiring in their own ways!

What I love about this book is how instead of seeing the past through Shefali's eyes, we now see it through Shizuka and I loved how that paralleled book 1!
This
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Willie
May 01, 2019 rated it liked it
This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here.
Adam Maloney
Dec 31, 2018 rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: Fans of both light fantasy and epic fantasy
I managed to finish THE PHOENIX EMPRESS just before the end of 2018, and it was a wonderful way to close out the year. This beautiful and engrossing sequel to THE TIGER'S DAUGHTER continues the epic stories of Shefali and Shizuka - two women destined to face their rotting world together. Unfortunately, the world seems intent on tearing them apart both figuratively and literally. Gods, demons, love, fear, (minor) body horror, and adventure are all contained within its pages. I really don't want ...more
Bethany
Dec 31, 2018 rated it it was ok
Shelves: owned
The Phoenix Empress did not live up to my hopes after reading The Tiger's Daughter.

While The Tiger's Daughter was atmospheric, romantic, and engaging, The Phoenix Empress felt all over the place and boring. If I were to list the salient events in the book, they certainly sound dramatic, but the way they were laid out left me yawning.

I'm just going to pretend The Tiger's Daughter was a standalone, so I can continue to appreciate it for its merits rather than have it dragged down due to its
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Jocelyn
Oct 16, 2018 rated it liked it
I don’t remember the last time I loved a book and was so disappointed by the sequel. I don’t think the first half of this book was necessary — I almost gave up reading it several times. Like the first book it gets better towards the end, but unlike the first I didn’t feel like the ending justified the beginning.
Fornia
Dec 25, 2018 rated it did not like it
well that was a total 180 in terms of quality
Morena
Feb 19, 2019 rated it did not like it
Shelves: did-not-finish
DNF: 45%

It pains me so much to DNF this book, but my time is too valuable.
I originally made the goal of reading 5 more chapters then deciding whether I should continue or not, but even the thought of doing that made me extremely reluctant to continue reading the book. It has already been a couple of days stuck at page 245, the past couple of chapters I just basically bulldozed through, and I don't know if it's going to get any better, and I'm reluctant to find out.
In the span of reading 45% of
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Ashley
Jul 07, 2019 rated it liked it
3.5 rating. I know a lot of people have issues with this book, especially concerning the East Asian rep and the lack of explanation throughout the series so far. Despite other people’s concerns I actually enjoyed reading this book and didn’t mind not fully understanding everything that was happening.

So let’s a talk about what I liked:

Rivera has a way with words that I think works well for this story. Yes, her writing is flowery. Yes, she spends more time explaining the intricacies of writing a
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Adri Joy
Oct 13, 2018 rated it really liked it
Their Bright Ascendancy continues with a slower volume that focuses on its queer women protagonists to the near-exclusion of everything else.

I've been looking forward to The Phoenix Empress, second in the "Their Bright Ascendancy" series by K. Arsenault Rivera, for a while: as a sequel to The Tiger's Daughter, a book that I very much enjoyed despite its flaws, I was intrigued to see where the author would take both the plot and the form of this queer romance-heavy fantasy trilogy. Structurally,
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Puerto Rico born and New York raised, K is a lifelong fan of all things nerdy. She drew on her love of tabletop gaming for her debut novel, THE TIGER'S DAUGHTER. An out and proud queer, she lives in Brooklyn with her partner.

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