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3.58  ·  Rating details ·  1,850 ratings  ·  278 reviews
James More es un ingeniero hidráulico que ha sido tomado como rehén en Somalia por los terroristas yihadistas, que sospechan que es un espía británico.

Danielle Danny Flinders es una biomatemática que trabaja en un proyecto de inmersión en las aguas más profundas de los océanos para demostrar su teoría sobre el origen de la vida en el planeta.

Ambos se conocen en un aislad
Kindle Edition, 288 pages
Published October 3rd 2017 by Destino (first published July 21st 2011)
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Maria Espadinha
Apr 23, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Reflexões sobre Vida e Morte

Senti este livro como um encontro entre a vida e a morte, explorado sob duas vertentes:

Uma metafórica, através dum amor fortuito entre um espião inglês em cativeiro, aprisionado por um grupo da al-Qaeda, (uma situação que estará em tudo, próxima do corredor da morte) e uma biomatemática que se dedica à exploração das profundezas dos oceanos (a água é por si só um símbolo de vida, já que consta que foi por lá que tudo começou)...

A outra perspectiva resulta duma combina
Kelly (and the Book Boar)
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A couple of months ago some dillweed wrote this article attempting to shame adults who read YA books. In said article, she name-dropped a bunch of authors who wrote well-known classics, as well as this selection. She said of Submergence:

"A few months ago I read the very literary novel Submergence, which ends with a death so shattering it’s been rattling around in my head ever since. (If it's actually a death! Adult novels often embr
Robin Sloan
Jan 21, 2014 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
In an interview, Ledgard called this book an attempt at "planetary writing." Well: the attempt succeeded, and the result is a novel simultaneously (a) perfectly of its time, and (b) dizzyingly beyond it. A stunning achievement and, bonus, a great read.
Nov 19, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is a perfectly told story detailing the experience of two protagonists plumbing the depths of humanity - both personal and corporate - in ways figurative and literal. There's a love story that is beautifully constructed, a rich (and obviously very well researched) narrative of jihadists in Somalia, told via wondrous sentences such as:

Heaven was like being tuned out. You entered in and were suffused in an equal light, without sun or storms, never atmospheric, and were met also by one equal s
Feb 14, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: novels
A couple weeks after reading it, I still don't know quite what to say about Submergence except that it's phenomenal, one of the best novels I've read in a very long time. It's philosophical, provoking questions about how best to respond to the world in its complexities, whether by focusing inward or outward. And Ledgard, perhaps through his experience as a journalist, manages the tricky feat of making the terrorists who kidnap the protagonist (that's no spoiler, it's the first page) into complex ...more
Read 12/24/13 - 12/27/13
3 Stars - Recommended to those who are already fans of hostage-slash-love-slash-deep-thoughts-about oceanic-life-and-god-and-angels-and-hell-and-death novels told through the past and present experiences of both main characters
Pgs: 212
Publisher: Coffee House Press

I haven't written an actual, real length review since September, so go figure that I find myself itching to write one on a book that everyone else raves about but that has left me feeling incredibly underwhelmed.
Bülent Özgün
Nov 11, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Çok satar öğeler ile beslediğim okur algımı nasıl cezbetti bu kitap, anlamadım.

Ana roman kişileri: Afrika'da işkence gören bir gizli ajan ve okyanus bilimci bir matematikçi.

İkisi bir otelde tanışıyorlar ve birbirlerine karşı farklı bir şey hissediyorlar. Sonra yolları ayrılıyor. Biri derin sulara diğeri acı dolu bir coğrafyaya gidiyor.

İkisinin birlikteykenki hikayesini ve ayrı ayrı hikayelerini okuyoruz. Tüm bunların aralarına bilim, din, tarih ve mitolojiye dair metinler serpiştirilmiş. Bu meti
Dec 24, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Oldukça karışık,kopuklukları olan bir anlatım, sadece konu güncel ve cazip, okunması zor.
Maria Espadinha
Apr 23, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A Fractal Mystery

I felt this story as a life and death sort of meeting, developed in two senses : metaphorically and philosophically.

Metaphorically through the flash love affair that happens between James and Danielle:

James was held in captivity by some al-Qaeda guys (the way I figure it out, the difference between such a situation and the death corridor doesn't seem quite substantial), while Danielle was a scientist (a sea explorer in contact with a myriad of living organisms) in a place pulsin
Dec 25, 2012 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
While this is not 100% successful, it is a damn impressive book, and occasionally it is brilliant. Ledgard writes for the Economist, from Africa, and this novel, his second, is set in Somalia. The hero, James More (a descendant of Thomas More; now that's a lineage), is a British "water engineer" (i.e., spook), kidnapped by jihadists. The harrowing, vivid opening bit will convince you, not that it would take much convincing, mind, that you must never be kidnapped by al-Qaeda zealots under any cir ...more
Sep 02, 2013 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Very disappointed, given the reviews I've read of this book. Makes me question the reviewing industry, in general. The love story at the center was deflated and pretentious. Even with my understanding that James was undergoing trauma in captivity, his sections read like imperial, anthropological journal entries, which, unfortunately, don't read as authorial strategy or characterization. The role of women (other than Danny) is exploitive and prop-like, and Danny herself feels incredibly undevelop ...more
Jun 27, 2013 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
There simply wasn’t enough story or interaction between actual human beings in this novel for my taste. In a way it could have begun and ended anywhere, as it really did seem often to be a series of pieces - consisting of two deeply solitary narratives and a slew of scientific/historic observations of varied relevance - that were shuffled with occasional brilliance and sporadic logic.

That said, what Ledgard has done with dimension is wholly unique and deeply interesting. By exploring depth, sta
Feb 27, 2013 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Has a novel ever been more aptly titled than J. M. Ledgard's Submergence? From the opening pages, we're reminded relentlessly that "submergence," "submersion," "sinking," "diving," and "descent" are very much what this painstakingly crafted book is about. It's a thematic obsession that ties together philosophical synopses, historical anecdotes, essayistic meditations, two central characters, and three interwoven plots. Submergence is plainly a novel of grand ambitions—a brooding, atmospheric spy ...more
May 01, 2013 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Stunningly orientalist. Simply amazed that not one of the reviews have even touched upon it. Ledgard seems like a very creepy old-school colonial guy - a slightly smarter Brit Tom Friedman-ish journalist at the neoliberal Economist - with a very dubious Islamophobic agenda. Will elaborate in a longer piece, but wow, what a knob.
Jul 23, 2018 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
ไมอินเลย 555
ไมรูสึกถึงความเชือมโยงของ 2 คนนีเลย โรแมนติกตรงไหน เหงาตรงไหน เสนเรืองของ 2 คนดูแยกกันชัดเจนมาก เหมือนคนเขียนไมรูจะผสานยังไง มันเลยกระทอนกระแทนแบบนีอะ
Joanne Freitas
Um livro que fala por um lado de amor e por outro de a vida de um cativeiro e todas as suas consequências. Este livro serve como reflexão sobre a vida e a morte.
Charlie Quimby
Apr 14, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
On a recent vacation, I finished J.M. Ledgard's Submergence and pressed it on my very well-read wife. Her first word after finishing it was "Wow!"

She asked if she could pass it on to her sister and my first word was "No!"

Not because I'm usually selfish with my books, but because I want this book close by — under my pillow should I despair about the world; on the shelf should I think there's no sense trying to write serious fiction in this age of micro-reading; on my desk to remind me that big ol
John Pappas
Mar 21, 2013 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"They arrived at a place no satellite image can do justice to," as we arrive in the barren world of Ledgard's Submergence, a book that feels so intensely of the global transnational geopolitical now. Like Delillo but without the paranoia, or with the paranoia replaced by both desperate hope and resignation, Ledgard's world is one of deception and fanaticism, of drones and terrorism, of collapsing nation-states and war lords, but also one of crystalline observations of the natural world -- a worl ...more
Jan 20, 2016 marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
Isn't particularly interested but hey, James McAvoy is being cast as the main character so, *sigh*
Uwe Hook
Jul 27, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
My book of the year so far:

J.M . Ledgard's second novel is strange and disturbing It is also dark and, one might argue, deeply pessimistic in terms of the future it suggests for humankind.

SUBMERGENCE is an account of James, a kidnapped British spy, and the slow disintegration of his will and consciousness among his jihadist captors in Somalia, coupled with the descent into the depths of the oceans on the part of Danielle, a marine biomathematician.

Somewhere in there, in flashbacks, like particle
Dec 11, 2013 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-2014
Pretentious, ill-conceived, misogynistic, boring, flat, and insufferable. The author is a journalist who fancies himself a novelist but here's hoping for the salvation of any dignity the human race still has left that he really, really, REALLY doesn't quit his day job. I would not wish this paean to white male privilege on my worst enemy.

Please, I implore you, store this book in your bathroom cabinet as emergency backup when the TP runs out, and instead go pick up "A Day and A Night and a Day b
David Sasaki
Jan 01, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: kindle
I came to this book with unfairly inflated expectations, having read enthusiastic endorsements from writers I respect: Teju Cole, Kathryn Schulz, Alexis Madrigal, and Robin Sloan.

Those unfair expectations were met throughout the first half of the book, but the second half was a slow let-down

The strength of the book's beginning lies in its juxtaposition between two scenes that unravel with cinematic allure. First we meet James More, a British spy posing as a water engineer who has been taken hos
Feb 24, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: recensies
Op de laatste pagina van Tot het laatste vuur de diepzee bereikt roept J.M. Ledgard op om Denis Allex, een in juli 2009 door Al Shabaab ontvoerde Franse veiligheidsadviseur, niet te vergeten. Net zomin als Asho Duhulow, een meisje dat op 13-jarige leeftijd in Kismayo schuldig werd bevonden aan ontrouw omdat ze verkracht was. Haar straf was dood door steniging. De kans dat je beiden vergeet, nadat je Tot het laatste vuur de diepzee bereikt hebt gelezen, is nihil.

James More, de mannelijke hoofdper
Jason McKinney
Huh... First off, I was disappointed in light of the stellar reviews that I had read. It has two somewhat compelling characters who through a chance encounter, meet and fall in love at Christmas time while staying at a rural French hotel created by Cesar Ritz at the start of the 20th century. This cozy, romantic plotline is thrown in a blender with jarring accounts of jihadists taking a British spy captive and scientific digressions on how significant the undersea world is and how people refuse ...more
Harold Smithson
Jan 01, 2015 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
The more I read modern “high brow” literature the more convinced I am that nobody has actually read any classics. People talk about Moby Dick being one of the greatest novels in the English language (Ledgard himself praises Moby Dick in Submergence during one of many unnecessary deviations from the story) but peoples’ idea of what the book is differs greatly from the reality. Nobody ever mentions that Herman Melville wrote a funny scene where one sailor forces another to apologize to a couple sh ...more
Nick Black
Jul 01, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Nick by: someone in slate
Pretty good! People who talk about "long passages of technical detail" either read a different book, or have a morbid fear of the scientific argot without which it is simply impossible to tell a detailed story about engineers and researchers. a quote from the text is relevant:

"She had suffered from the divide in the English education system, which holds that scientists do not study Milton, and those who love Milton have no comprehension of Newton's gravity, which brought Lucifer tumbling down fr
Dec 15, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Ledgard possesses and utilizes powerful, immense pools of delicious nouns to describe the natural scenes involved in Danny and More's adventures.

I loved this book for its math and science snippets. While Ledgard effortlessly sits the reader inside the conscious of James More, he only views Danny from the exterior, among her colleagues. In descriptions and snippets around Danny's work I was particularly hooked by Danny's mythical inspiration:

“Six millennia ago, the air god Enlil and the sea god E
This is a helluva book.

If you want to know what happened in a war, you might read a history book or old news reports. But if you want to know what it was like, you go to books, movies, story.

We're at war, now. But there aren't a lot of stories about it and the news always feels at an arms length.

The war between The West and Islamist Terrorists seems either very distant (drone attack in Yemen) or very immediate (Sep 11, July 7). Other than Usama bin Laden or Khalid Sheik Mohammed, how many peopl
May 26, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Este livro revelou ser totalmente o contrário daquilo que esperava! Gostei, apesar de acreditar que não seja um livro que agrade a todos!
Jun 06, 2016 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Hem çok güzel hem de netameli bir kitap.

İlk başta tekniğini yadırgadım ve başlarda sıkıldım elbette, ne de olsa okurluk tarihinde kimi zaman kırılmalara uğrasa da Cervantes'ten bu yana alışkın olduğumuz bir yapı var zihnimizde. "Batır Gitsin Derin Sulara" ise bu yapıya uygun bir eser değil. Rahatlıkla didaktik olmakla eleştirilebilir. Aslında tam da bu nedenle çok heyecan verici bir kitap. Birkaç sayfadan sonra ne olacağını merak edip ilgiyle okumaya başladım ve yeni şeyler öğrenmeye alıştım.

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