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Carve the Mark #2

The Fates Divide

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Fate brought them together. Now it will divide them.

The lives of Cyra Noavek and Akos Kereseth are ruled by their fates, spoken by the oracles at their births. The fates, once determined, are inescapable.

Akos is in love with Cyra, in spite of his fate: He will die in service to Cyra’s family. And when Cyra’s father, Lazmet Noavek—a soulless tyrant, thought to be dead—reclaims the Shotet throne, Akos believes his end is closer than ever.

As Lazmet ignites a barbaric war, Cyra and Akos are desperate to stop him at any cost. For Cyra, that could mean taking the life of the man who may—or may not—be her father. For Akos, it could mean giving his own. In a stunning twist, the two will discover how fate defines their lives in ways most unexpected.

With the addition of two powerful new voices, Veronica Roth's sequel to Carve the Mark is a chorus of hope, humor, faith, and resilience.

443 pages, Hardcover

First published April 10, 2018

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Veronica Roth

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Veronica Roth is the New York Times best-selling author of Poster Girl, Chosen Ones, the short story collection The End and Other Beginnings, the Divergent series, and the Carve the Mark duology. She is also the guest editor of The Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2021. Her new novella, Arch-Conspirator, will be released in February. Veronica lives in Chicago, Illinois.

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1,597 reviews6,646 followers
May 5, 2023
I got this on the strength of Divergent not the last book in this series. This was a lot better then the first book. I wanted to give it 3.5 stars but is it such an improvement on the last book I thought it deserved a round up rather then down. It is still very slow paced, and there are probably less fights in this book then there were in the last book, but the story is much better and fills in many of the holes/problems in the first book. There is a lot more political intrigue, maneuvering, and manipulation along with some big plot twist.

The book is written in the first person for Cyra, and Cisi (Akos' sister), and in the third person for Akos himself. This I think was a good choice as in the past Veronica Roth has said she write better in the voice of her female characters.

Since the last book the brutal war on the planet Thuvhe, between the Thuvhe and the warrior nomadic Shotet has been notices and taken center stage in the interplanetary politics. Everyone has their own agenda. With the return of the most ruthless leader for the Shotet people causalities are mounting on both sides. Is all hope for peace gone?

Akos, Cyra and Cisi has seen their fates as both a curse and a burden. Now they might has to accept that their fates were just the start of their journey and their gifts/powers can be used for so much more. Maybe it is the comic fan in my but I love when people push the boundries or find new applications for their powers. These characters current gifts develop as much as their characters in this book.

The book starts off as slowly as the other book left off, you have to get past the first 150 pages for the book to really get going the last 200 or so pages is where it really turner into a page turner. However they are still parts that are drawn out or not the best thought out plans. This could be put down to the characters being quite young and reckless, so no knock on the writing. I good book I am glad I persevered with it.
295 reviews20 followers
April 16, 2018
As I was one of the few who actually liked the first book Carve the Mark I am really excited for this continuation of the story!

Edit 16th April - Thoughts
I enjoyed The Fates Divide more than the first one. This was a good continuation of the story. I felt immersed into it right away - Veronica Roth didn't take long to get right to business.

The characters and their relations felt more flashed out - it was like a game of chess and we saw every piece move across the board. It didn't feel like Cyra and Akos were the main characters at times - the rest were just as important if not more. I noticed this already in the Divergent series - sometimes the side characters are more important to Veronica Roth than her actual main characters.
I didn't have a problem with it in this case - it all played into the theme of "the fates", the invisible hand moving the pieces across the chess board.
And no side was painted evil - Thuve and Shotet may be enemies, but both sides have their good and bad people. And just because of the bad people, you can't condemn the good people aswell. This was made clear perfectly throughout the book.

Veronica Roth really has a way with titles - she always stays true to the theme. And she always comes back to the title/the theme of the title, in this case Fate. It all revolved around fate - are you the slave of your fate or can you choose your own fate?
I absolutely love this about all of her books!

The twists and turnes were real! At one point I just sat there, jaw dropping and needed to take a minute to process all the information. This story kept me hooked all the way through!

And I absolutely loved this book, up until the actual ending. I think the problem was that I had Allegiant in my head and expected such an ending. I couldn't stop comparing it.
It would've been a pleasing ending, if Veronica Roth wasn't the author. I honestly absolutely loved Allegiant and its ending.

I would love this to become a movie. Honestly, I think this could be turned into a great movie adaptation!

Edit 14th April 2018
It's here!!! I have it <3
The Fates Divide
Can't wait to read it, though I am a bit anxious hahaa

Edit 13th Dec 2017
OMG!!! The cover and title dropped at the same time! Honestly, I love the title, and the cover is aesthetically pleasing (it's gonna fit perfectly to the 1st book), I am still super excited for this book :D
93 reviews56 followers
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January 6, 2018
There is no way I'm going to be able to wait until 2018 for this.

EDIT : 1/6/2018

"He'd die for her. She'd kill for him."

If you aren't intrigued yet, I don't even know what to tell you. Plus, I absolutely love the cover. It's going to beautifully on my shelf beside the first one:)
October 23, 2022
It’s a complicated world!



The following ratings are out of 5:
Narration: 🎙🎙🎙🎙🎙
Romance: 💛🖤💜
Story/Plot: 📕📗📘📙
World building: 🌎🌍🌏🌎
Character development: 😕🤬🤯😎

The Hero: Akos Kereseth - he and his older brother Eijah were taken from their home in Thuvhe as children to serve the royal family of Shotet. The leader, Ryzek wanted to change his fate so he took Eijah (an oracle) to help try to lead him to a different fate.

The heroine(s): Cyra Noavek - she is from the ruling family of Shotet, used by her brother Ryzek for her currentgift and when she stood up for herself against him, she was tortured in the worst possible way.

The Story: This book takes up right where Carve the Mark finishes and goes in some different directions than expected. The first book was mainly the story of Cyra and Akos, this one adds a lot of characters and gets much more political than the first.

I nearly didn’t listen to this book, because the first book sort of ended in a good stopping place. However I really liked Austin Butler’s voice as Akos and when I saw that this book has 4 narrators, I couldn’t resist. Austin’s voice is deep and he speaks with a slow tempo which fits Akos perfectly. The other narrators, Emily Rankin, Erin Spencer and Macleod Andrews did a great job as well and I enjoyed the narration more than the story.

Akos and Eijah get back together with what is left of their family. However, Akos feels like he failed to save Eijah and holds a lot of weight on his shoulders. Eijah is an odd one, since Ryzek is dead and his currentgift was to trade memories with other people and he did it often with Eijah in the hopes he could take in Eijah’s currentgift as an oracle.

Though Ryzek was unable to steal Eijah’s gift, the memories he took from Eijah were happy memories of his childhood in Thuvhe and he gave Eijah his most horrible and bloody memories in exchange. Now Eijah has more than a bit of dissociative identity disorder which isn’t helped any by his visions.

Akos’s sister, Cisi was left behind in Thuvhe when their father was killed and the boys were stolen away. She had to clean up the mess left by the soldiers, deal with her father’s body and support her mother who was a mess despite the fact that she was an oracle who knew enough to stay away when the soldiers came but didn’t warn her family because she is supposed to do what is right for the greater good.

There was also a new Chancellor who recently came into power and Cyra’s father returns from the dead, or wherever Ryzek had put him and declared war on the Thuvhe people. The story got better at this point, though the war puts Cyra and Akos on opposite sides even with both of them knowing that they had to remove her father from power since he was the brutal tyrant that created Ryzek, so was much worse for the Shotet people.

Overall, this was more about the adventure than the romance but I thought it was a good adventure and the world building was great. I got a bit confused sometimes about the names of the characters and who was who at times but I did enjoy the story and the narration.

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908 reviews164 followers
April 12, 2018
I actually really loved the completion of this duology! I remember being hesitant about reading the first book when it first came out because of the mixed reviews but I usually don’t let that prevent me from checking out a book, and I actually did enjoy the first. But in my opinion, this second book was even better! There were so good twists and yeah someone does die in the first 20 pages, but the story just keeps you interested. I honestly probably would have said this is a one sitting read but it was really nice out and my husband was home and the dogs wanted to go out a lot so had distraction after distraction. Anyways, this is a good finale to the duology. I am completely satisfied with this duology! Enjoyed it very much!

My quick and simple overall: everyone plays out for their fates but the fate isn’t set in stone with the way it works out. Very entertaining conclusion!
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235 reviews359 followers
January 31, 2023
“Suffer the fate, for all else is delusion.”


“What does Mother always say? Those who go looking for pain...'
'Find it every time,' I replied, completing the phrase.”



I am so glad Cyra&Akos are finally together!!
But what about Eijeh? There's so much more to the story!!!


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60 reviews290 followers
February 17, 2019
This duo-logy had characters that were everything but at a different level.
Emotional...throwing suppressed feelings flying everywhere.
Intelligent...striking your mind numb and starting it again.
Fierce...in a way that led you to think was fate really a must weapon
or all you have to do is have belief in yourself.
Independent...still bound by invisible chains.
The story line was a bit shaky but I loved how the characters had
a few choices to make but still managed to get out of those
few options what they wanted.
A good story overall.
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381 reviews542 followers
August 14, 2018
KELLY!!! I need you.

You there? Ok. I’m about to have a Veronica Roth rant and I figured you’d enjoy it.

I am so disappointed. More than most fans were with Allegiant. Personally, I loved Allegiant, but hey to each their own. This book, however, is a different story altogether. When I read Carve the Mark I loved it! I could not get enough of Cyra and Akos. Two star-crossed lovers if ever there were.

The world was a little much. I am not going to lie. I was overwhelmed with the vastness of the intergalactic world Roth created. There was just too much of it. The language she tried to throw in there was inconsistent and unnecessary, but the characters and their interactions made Carve the Mark all that it was to me.

The first few chapters of the Fates Divide pick up where Carve the Mark ended. Typically, this is great. Not this time. Roth decided to kill off the villain in the opening chapters leaving me wondering what all the development was for. Why spend all this time building a great villain just to have him killed uneventfully in the opening pages? Because plot.

We move on to a new argument that is mundane and seemingly pointless but of course leads to a war. Because everyone in the galaxy wanted said villain dead but as soon as he’s killed everyone gets all up in arms over a.) who did it and b.) how it was done. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. Who gives a shit? He’s dead. Be happy. Celebrate.

Then we get a bombshell. And I can’t sugarcoat it, Roth definitely pulled the carpet out from under my feet with this one. It was a doozy! Instead of it bringing our two lovers closer together it, OF COURSE, drives them apart. Akos leaves without a word to Cyra. They’re both filled with self-loathing and each have their own secret missions. Where they could have just spoken with one another like responsible adults, they act like immature assholes and go their separate ways.

YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND MY FRUSTRATION HERE.

Cyra and Akos were wonderful and Roth fucking ruined them in this sequel. I just don’t fucking understand what she was going for here. “Ah, I’m all wounded and broken and misunderstood”. Give me a break!!!! They had great chemistry and their relationship was a beautiful thing and what I wanted here was to see them together, holding hands in public and rubbing their love in the faces of EVERYONE. Instead we get a pointless war. We get characters with no meaning. We get POV’s that we don’t need that serve to add confusion to an already muddled storyline. I kept waiting and waiting for this to get better. It never did. I can’t even begin to tell you how angry I am. (Maybe as angry as Kelly was when she got to Allegiant?) I just felt like she dropped the ball big time here.

Now, I am not saying I won’t ever pick up another book written by Roth, but MY GOD WOMAN, you’re better than this!!! This “world” was way too much and not enough at the same time. Figure it the fuck out and start again.

BLECH!
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396 reviews399 followers
August 11, 2019
4.25 Golden Stars


Carve the Mark: ★★★★★/5
The Fates Divide: ★★★★/5

I liked it, but book one was better, that was the introduction to this beautiful world, more thrills, less politics. Full review of book 1 is here

this one was slower than book 1 (though it was a surprise for me, because we were near the end of this duology.)
Cyra was too much hot-head, I didn't like her anymore. (no hate either, I'm neutral.) She didn't know Akos! OMG! That made me angry at that part she thought wrong about him.
Cute Akos (also sarcastic sometimes which made me laugh out loud) & at some parts, my heart raced like crazy, I think I actually had held my breath for a whole chapter once in the middle. It was chapter 37 & sometimes I just wanted to skip some chapters to continue that special story of one's.

but too many political/diplomatic stuff mentioned in this book, made it slow pace & a bit boring.

In general, this series worth reading if you are a space sci-fi fan spiced up with fantasy, suffering heroes, cute romances, strong female characters.

just it, short summary:

World Building: ★★★★★/5
Characters: ★★★★(★)/5
Plot: ★★★★/5
general idea: ★★★★★/5
Writing style: ★★★(★)/5
Feelz: ★★★/5 (the ones that made me cry)
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238 reviews138 followers
November 10, 2022
Veronica Roth really does have a track record for ruining series with the second book. It happened with Divergent, and unfortunately it happened here too. While Carve the Mark was fairly entertaining and definitely action-packed, The Fates Divide turned out to be boring and slow, with a poorly developed romance to boot 😒😒 DEFINITELY a case of second book syndrome right here ☹☹😬😬

“A soft heart was a gift, whether given easily or with great reluctance. I would never take it for granted again.”

The Fates Divide is the sequel to Carve the Mark, and takes place at most a day or two after that one’s ending. When the tensions between different countries escalate to full-out war, Cyra and Akos have to try and restore peace to their planet. Just like the first book, it’s filled with political intrigue, fantasy and sci-fi elements and romance- but unlike Carve the Mark, it executes that all in a really sloppy way 😬

Let me tell you EXACTLY what this book did wrong:

❌ The characters: Okay, I’ve never been super picky with characters and I’m not a character-driven reader. Obviously I’ll like a book more if it has good characters, but if it doesn’t, it’s not the end of the world to me, as long as other parts of the book are interesting. But despite that, the characters in here were a huge reason I didn’t like the book. They were all completely bland and underdeveloped, with little to no redeeming qualities. Cyra was boring and Akos irritated me for basically the entire book. Also, the villain in here was so utterly NOT intimidating that it just meant there was zero tension. 🙄🙄 That was INCREDIBLY annoying.
Also, in this book, we got Akos’ sister, Cisi’s perspective as well as Akos and Cyra and I think that was an incredibly poor choice. Cisi is a super underdeveloped character and literally nothing interesting happened in her chapters, so every time I got to one of them, I nearly fell asleep. Also, she got so many chapters and for what?! That was just super off putting 😒

❌ The plot: As I said earlier, I’m not a character-driven reader, but I AM a plot-driven reader- and so having essentially no plot in here was REALLY annoying. The Fates Divide is around 450 pages long and yet interesting things only happen in the last 150 pages. That means that the characters sat around and did nothing for 300 pages. And the climax wasn’t even exciting!! I honestly thought I was gonna have to DNF, and I’m surprised I managed to finish it at all. It was just so BORING 😴😴🙄🙄

❌ The romance: *throws up* 🤢🤢 Okay, so the romance in Book 1 was meh, it was fine ig, but the romance in this? No. Just no. Cyra and Akos, the couple, had a fight over basically NOTHING, stopped talking to each other and then just magically made up at the end 🤦🤦 The romance was SUPER underdeveloped and it was just impossible to root for the characters to be together. So, yeah, NO.

“Death is not the only punishment you can give a person. You can also give them nightmares.”

The only thing in the book that I actually liked (or didn’t hate) was the writing. It’s not the most amazing writing ever, but it’s pretty good and easy to read. I did prefer it in Divergent, but eh, it doesn’t really matter 🤷‍♀️

“It wasn't pretending I wouldn't get knocked down that protected me, but the knowledge that I would get back up as many times as I had to.”

Yeah, so I really DID not like it and overall, it was just so unpleasant to read. The plot is dull, the characters are underdeveloped, and the romance is just NOT good. It’s just not great all around.

Would I recommend this series? I might’ve said yes after Carve the Mark, but this has caused me to change that to a big fat NO. If you’re looking to read some Veronica Roth, I would much rather recommend Divergent instead. This is NOT worth it!! ☹☹😬😬

~ 2 stars

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Yeah..... that definitely wasn't my favourite 😬😬☹☹ I'm honestly annoyed at how badly it fell into second book syndrome 😤😤

RTC
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398 reviews363 followers
December 11, 2018
Space was not a finite container, but that didn't mean it was empty. Asteroids, stars, planets, the current stream; space debris, ships, fragmented moons, undiscovered worlds; this was a place of endless possibility and unfathomable freedom. It was not nothing, it was everything.

I had some mixed feelings about the first book, but I entirely loved this one! It was so good!

The inclusion of Eijeh and Cisi's perspectives really added a lot to the story and the world. We got to see so much more through them than just through Akos and Cyra, and it was greatly appreciated. I got my more planets wish and got some awesome visuals along the way (Ogra is my dream aesthetic)

The themes were great in this, and the pacing was also great. Everything was great.

I was hesitant about the Lazmet death retcon, but it was done really well and added a lot to the story. The plot twists were all super effective and the hard-hitting moments were pretty intense.

Let me just say that I hate Isae Benesit and will never like her. The end.

(note to Veronica Roth: PLEASE do not make this a trilogy! Two is fine! An unresolved political drama is perfectly okay to leave hanging. Don't pull an Allegiant on us again!)
Profile Image for Carmen de la Rosa.
483 reviews377 followers
June 2, 2020
¿Soy la única que no disfrutó el libro?
¿Por qué su escritura es tan difícil de entender?
Realmente intenté llevarme bien con la línea de la historia pero desafortunadamente no sucedió.

Estoy a punto de tener una nueva discusión sobre Veronica Roth y pienso que lo disfrutaras.

Estoy muy decepcionada. Más que la mayoría de los fanáticos estaban con Allegiant. Personalmente, amo a Allegiant (a pesar de que me destruyo y aun no me recupero a pesar del pasar de los años), pero ey! cada uno a lo suyo. Este libro, sin embargo, es una historia completamente diferente. Cuando leí Carve the Mark debo reconocer que lo disfrute en el fondo! No me cansé de Cyra y pero tuve un problema con Akos. Dos amantes con destinos cruzados.

El mundo era un poco demasiado. No voy a mentir. Me abrumó la inmensidad del mundo intergaláctico que Roth creó. Había demasiado de eso. El lenguaje que intentó incluir allí era inconsistente e innecesario, pero los personajes y sus interacciones hicieron de Carve the Mark todo lo que era para mí.

Los primeros capítulos de la Destinos Divididos se refieren al final de Carve the Mark. Típicamente, esto seria genial. No esta vez. Roth decidió matar al villano en los primeros capítulos y me pregunté para qué servía todo el desarrollo. ¿Por qué pasar todo este tiempo construyendo un gran villano para que lo maten sin problemas en las primeras páginas?.

Pasamos a un nuevo argumento que es mundano y aparentemente sin sentido, pero que por supuesto conduce a una guerra. Debido a que todos en la galaxia querían que el villano muriera, pero tan pronto como él murió, todos se levantan en brazos por a.) Quién lo hizo y b.) Cómo se hizo. Lo que era una mierda. ¿A quién le importa una mierda? Él está muerto. Sea feliz. Celebra.

Entonces tenemos una bomba. Y no puedo endulzarlo, Roth definitivamente sacó la alfombra de debajo de mis pies con esto. En lugar de eso, unir a nuestros dos amantes, por supuesto, los separa. Akos se va sin una palabra lejos de Cyra. Ambos están llenos de auto-odio y cada uno tiene sus propias misiones secretas. Donde podrían haber hablado unos con otros como adultos responsables, actúan como imbéciles inmaduros y van por caminos separados.

USTEDES NO ENTIENDE MI FRUSTRACIÓN AQUÍ.

Cyra y Akos fueron maravillosos y Roth los arruinó en esta secuela. Simplemente no entiendo a qué estupidez iban a hacer apartir de aqui. "Ah, estoy herido y roto y mal". ¡¡¡¡Dame un respiro!!!! Tenían una gran química y su relación era una cosa hermosa y lo que yo quería aquí era verlos juntos, tomados de la mano en público y frotando su amor en las caras de TODOS. En su lugar tenemos una guerra sin sentido. Obtenemos personajes sin significado. Obtenemos un POV que no necesitamos para agregar confusión a una trama ya confusa. Seguí esperando y esperando que esto mejorara. Nunca lo hizo. Ni siquiera puedo empezar a decirte lo enojada que estoy. Sentí que dejó caer la pelota a lo grande aquí.

Ahora, no estoy diciendo que nunca volveré a recoger otro libro escrito por Roth, pero MUJER, ¡eres mejor que esto! Este "mundo" era demasiado y no era suficiente al mismo tiempo. Descúbrelo y empieza de nuevo.
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15 reviews17 followers
April 20, 2018
While the first novel was very much a world-building novel that focused on just one or two specific locations, The Fates Divide is somehow more of an introspective character piece that spans across different planets. It focuses less on the larger world and more on how the characters perceive it. The world-building in Carve the Mark was done through the characters of Cyra, Akos, and company, but the world-building in The Fates Divide is what complicates and develops the characters’ interpersonal relationships. It’s a really fascinating, yet subtle, switch.

Another way The Fates Divide is different from its predecessor is the pacing and urgency of the story itself. The political intrigue, as well as the constant threat of pain and suffering, set a pretty quick pace in Carve the Mark. The Fates Divide is much more deliberate and slow-moving. Yes, political intrigue, pain, and physical suffering are still present, but they’re not the driving force of the novel.
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10 reviews6 followers
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May 15, 2017
Why do I read a book right after it comes out knowing I'm going to love it and then have to wait an entire year for the sequel??

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920 reviews1,333 followers
June 5, 2018
“When it comes to life, we spin our own yarn, and where we end up is really, in fact, where we always intended to be.”

----Julia Glass


Veronica Roth, the international bestselling author, is back with a bang and with her new book called, The Fates Divide that marks the end of this fantastic duology named, Carve the Mark. Up in the galaxy of stars and lives, two major planets are at war, and the fates of two teenagers who also happen to be in love with one another, are about to change drastically, that might not only bring war but will also divide them. And when a tyrannical ruler comes back from the dead, everyone in that galaxy is fearing for their lives, but can these two teenagers unite with one another to erase their common enemy before it turns into a bloodbath, despite of what their fates hold for them? This is an immensely power-packed ending to Roth's duology about an inter-spatial drama.


Synopsis:

In the second book of the Carve the Mark duology, globally bestselling Divergent author Veronica Roth reveals how Cyra and Akos fulfil their fates.

The Fates Divide is a richly imagined tale of hope and resilience told in four stunning perspectives.

The lives of Cyra Noavek and Akos Kereseth are ruled by their fates, spoken by the oracles at their births. The fates, once determined, are inescapable.

Akos is in love with Cyra, in spite of his fate: he will die in service to Cyra’s family. And when Cyra’s father, Lazmet Noavek – a soulless tyrant, thought to be dead – reclaims the Shotet throne, Akos believes his end is closer than ever.

As Lazmet ignites a barbaric war, Cyra and Akos are desperate to stop him at any cost. For Cyra, that could mean taking the life of the man who may – or may not – be her father.

For Akos, it could mean giving his own. In a stunning twist, the two will discover how fate defines their lives in ways most unexpected.



Cyra and Akos along with Cyra's ruthless killer brother, and their friends and families, have all escaped the dangerous planet of Shotet and are all now flying towards somewhere safe. But tragedy occurs in the spaceship and their plan changes, and gradually, more drama and twist unfolds in the lives of two young and fearless teenagers Cyra and Akos. And when the news of Cyra's ruthless killer father being alive hits the planets, panic breaks out and before it is too late, both the teenagers must try to stop him, even though one of them is the offspring of that vile ruler of Shotet. But can they, because their fates are telling otherwise?

Unlike the first book in the series, this book screams ACTION in big, bold, capital letters. The story takes a 360 degree turn right from the very beginning, and will surprise the readers at its every turn. The world building is done and dusted in the previous books, so this one only focuses on the characters and the actual story. No fussy romance is present in this book, thank god for that!, as that would have marred the essence of this book. Hence the author has included with only chemistry between the two protagonists, and a subtle hint of romance between them, although there are some major love making scenes which really felt crappy to read about in the story. Nevertheless, the elements of the book are presented in a right manner and every factor has made it an extremely intriguing book in this series.

The writing style by the author is simply fantastic and extremely coherent, laced tightly with drama and action. The twists in this book are absolutely unforeseeable and will leave the readers anticipating till the climax to find out what happens next. The dialogues are okay, not that great, what mattered here is the myriad perspectives of the four main and important characters, and through their voices, the readers get to contemplate with the story line. The actions scenes are penned very strikingly, that give an adrenaline-rushing feel to those scenes.

The characters are explored really well, both with their flaws and with their strong aspects, to make them look real and believable in the eyes of the readers. The main character, Cyra and Akos, have developed a bit more in this installment, they looked mature which reflected in their thoughtful and wise decisions. The two other characters are relatively new and their fresh voice added life to this dark inter-spatial drama. In short, all the characters are very layered and felt really good to read about them.

In a nutshell, the story is gripping, with interesting set of characters, that drive the story with their powerful voices. And that climax is really something, totally worth the wait for this book.


Verdict: A must read series for the dystopian fans!

Courtesy: Thanks to the publishers from Harper Collins India for giving me the opportunity to read and review this book.
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143 reviews31 followers
December 11, 2019
First off I need to start by saying that I like(d) the first book a lot. I rated it 4 stars. I placed it in the “ilovethissomuch” list that I use to recommend to my real-life friends. I freaked out mentally whenever I saw someone holding a Veronica Roth book in their hands, Carve The Mark or not. I know a good number of people who don’t like this series at all, but I do (did), so much.

So you can imagine how much it hurts for me to say that The Fates Divide was an extremely, unbelievably, ohgoddingly, painful read. It just....I don’t know what happened to me. Is it even me? My tastes might have changed after reading all kinds of books after Carve The Mark. I know for one The Raven Cycle series had recently changed me forever, that’s probably it, right??

The worst part is this the only book I own that Veronica Roth herself signed!! I didn't get to see her myself in person (my amazing friend got her to sign it for me), but this is the first signed book I have ever owned which is kind of a big deal. It's just so sad that I didn't love this book as much as I hoped I would.

[edit: I wrote a little synopsis here but imma remove it to make this a spoiler-free review for Carve The Mark]

It’s like that person you thought was nice all along but ended up betraying you in the end. All my fangirling and love for the characters went poof just like that!!

What I so hopefully expected:
More action, needed sacrifices (which was hinted so clearly on the blurb), excitement, more canon relationships and of course, the unexpected.

What I received:
A slow pace. No action. Just nothiNG.

I mean if the rate things were going from the first 100 pages were to continue to the rest of the book,
NOTHING. WILL. BE. HAPPENING. !! AGH!

And I know I can’t really say that because I haven’t finished the book. And I don’t know how it ends. I haven’t even gone past the half-way point. But that’s what I tell myself constantly as I was reading the first few pages, that it will get better and it’s just building up, and the typical "this chapter will be the one I just know it". As much as I try I can’t keep going on like that forever as getting through even a single chapter is a real struggle.

I also like books that teach or leave you an impression and so far this book has made no impact on me whatsoever. It’s not even mildly entertaining. I mean I know it’s the first quarter of the book and things are still building up, but can someone or something at least stun me or make me smile? Do something interesting maybe and new? I had to drag myself through and frankly it was quite a miserable experience.

Also, there had always been controversy surrounding this series but only now do I finally see the wrong stuff in not just this book but the last book as well.

Thus for all these reasons, I almost feel “betrayed” by the author. What’s more saddening than giving a DNF to a book written by one of the best authors you’ve ever known?

DNF @ 26%
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588 reviews289 followers
July 22, 2018
Not so bad conclusion to this duology (at least I think is a 2-book series) , but it lacked more structure and plot development. Character development was the greatest thing this series did and it’s minor characters but the plot suffered and it felt like the main plot for the second book (lazmet “Cyra’s dad ) was barely used or given any depth , therefore the whole book suffered. The three stars rating comes from the main characters development alone . Looking forward for whatever else this author comes up with in the future.
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1,401 reviews48 followers
May 17, 2018
The fates divide 3.75⭐️

The first book was more political which is why i wasnt a fan but this book (after having the world and political details already formed) was alot better.
I love the friendships and how each character has their own personality and attitude that shines through so clearly without having to directly say it but how they say it.

I like that they needed to ration and fight through the days it was realistic for a dystopian.
If you didnt really like carve the mark pick this up anyway because it was much better and I really enjoyed it!
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1,730 reviews295 followers
August 11, 2018
I felt that this series over all was very disappointing.

At the end of Carve the Mark, our main duo found themselves struggling to find out where they fit after the massive events that took place. And also struggling with their feelings for one another and what that means for their fates. Now as Cyra begins to take her place as leader of the Shotet people, she must face the fact that her father may be alive and ready to start war. Meanwhile, Akos and Cyra are confronted with their actual fates and have to decide what they will become.

I really wished that I liked this more. It had an interesting plot but as the story went on, it became predictable, anti-climactic, and boring. And I hold Roth at fault for most of this. I still don't understand why everyone's POV was told from 1st person except Akos - his was told from third. And because of this he seemed very one dimensional. Actually, I was never really felt attached to any of the characters. And because of this I couldn't really get into their lives.

Another issue I had was with the pacing. For a book that was almost 500 pages, nothing really happened. There was a lot of talking about plans and talking about fates and talking about families and just talking. Then when it seemed like the war was going to happen...everything was over in a few pages. And when she tried to wrap everything up in the epilogue, I just felt cheated with the way she handled the ending. It just makes me sad that now I will be approaching Roth's work with caution.
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69 reviews1 follower
January 8, 2019
FIVE ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

THIS BOOK

YOU GUYS- THIS BOOK

WAS ONE EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER!

I cannot believe how much I loved it!

Akos and Cyra will forever be in my heart! Their love was intense and unbreakable. It knew no boundaries and held no judgement. They were so accepting and loving it made me want to cry!

I won't spoil anything but all I'm saying is this is a MUST!!! LOVED IT!
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443 reviews101 followers
January 2, 2021
4/5 stars

Death isn't the only punishment you can give someone. You can also give them nightmares.

TW: Self harm, genocide, PTSD, violence

After the events of the first book, the second book picks up in a blast and blooms war and dangerous currents in its wake. More POVs are added, and specifically Akos' sister's point of view, more characters get tangled in the story and everything expands as revalations keep piling up and the world is better explored. I read this a few days after a reading slump, with my heart in my throat, hoping it wouldn't pull me into another one, but it was thankfully quick and fun, exactly like the first installment. The characters developed for better or worse, the plot thickened and the world building got deeper as we saw more planets, something that was probably my favourite part of the book.

The way trauma and grief are presented in the story were also something I absolutely loved. It makes me so happy that more and more authors strive to present mental health and mental illness in a respectful and well researched way, because it is something that touches so many subjects of one's reality. The characters here go through a lot of dark things such as war, betrayal and even genocide, in a way, and I was really glad the author chose to present this in a raw and aching manner. The way each character deals with their demons is also interesting to study, as some characters developed for the better and some for the worst.

The romance in this book was not as subtle as in the previous, but it was still not the main focus, and I find myself being drawn to romance-less books more and more, so it served me well. The family relationships and friendships were also pure in their own way, blooming in a time of harshness and destruction. Ιt all made me tear up, and I realised how much I love well-built dynamics.

In general, this was a great conclusion that kept the momentum of the first book while building upon the world and the psychological profiles of the characters, and it thankfully erased my reading slump and made me want to read again ♥ I recommend for fans of the older YA fiction, who also dip their toes in sci fi!

Until the next review, have a wonderful, happy bookish year! ♥
~Mary ♥
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240 reviews19 followers
September 29, 2019
4.5/5
This was such a *very* solid sequel to Carve the Mark, though it did take a little while for me to get fully into (potentially because I was still ill and fighting of jet lag from Japan..). The ending to chapter 26 was a turn that I absolutely did not see coming, which definitely set up the remainder of the book. Before this point, it felt a little static - almost as though Roth was reintroducing us to the characters (or alternatively letting us get used to the four points of view as opposed to two). I'm super chuffed that I picked up this duology on a total whim in the library. Am I allowed to say (as a 25 year old) that I'm quite into Veronica Roth's writing style? Even if I'm not, I just said it anyway...
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169 reviews418 followers
May 20, 2018
No spoilers in this review of The Fates Divide. I give it 3 stars. Unlike many readers, I enjoyed Carve the Mark, the first book in this series. Even though the subject matter was much different than Roth’s Divergent series, I saw similarities as far as how both series progressed. They started off with a bang—a promising story with some mysteries about which I was dying to know the answers—but in the end, Roth couldn’t quite deliver.

This sequel got off to an agonizingly slow start. I wasn’t interested in what was happening until nearly the halfway point in the book, yet surprisingly, I’m glad I stuck with it. Eventually, a plot development intrigued me enough that it was worth the wait. More about that below.

I always include a little plot summary at this point in my review, but it’s hard to sum this one up. It’s basically a battle for who will rule their universe. Will it be Isae? Will it be Cyra, who has taken the throne for her fallen brother? Or will it be Cyra’s evil father Lazmet, back from the dead? And how do the Oracles fit into the mix? At times, it seems they are merely using their visions to orchestrate the future they desire.

Turmoil exists at every turn, and tragic mistakes are made. In the midst of it all, Cyra feels like Akos’s fate dictates his feelings for her. Their fates (as proclaimed by the oracles) seem to dictate too much of their path in life, and they’re both so stubbornly independent that they go on with life with their heads held high even as their hearts are breaking.

This may sound like a decent storyline, but I was slowly plodding along until Roth dealt me a surprise. It was the perfect kind of twist: one that made sense in retrospect as the clues were there yet one I would’ve never figured out on my own. This catapulted me through the second half of the book, and the final showdown was fairly compelling and emotional.

I will give any book that shocks me a bump in rating. In this case, I was wavering between 2 stars and 3, and that surprise pushed my rating to a 3. What else did I enjoy? This might sound silly, but I loved the names of the characters and the places. I give Roth an A+ in this area. They were original and cohesive. And I liked the two lead characters a lot. They’re both strong—as tough as nails, even—and I respect that.

What else didn’t I like? Cisi’s chapters. When a new point of view is added in a book series, sometimes I like it (Wylan in Crooked Kingdom, for instance) and sometimes I don’t (Cisi in Fates). I understand why we needed to hear from her, but I was bored in her chapters and ready to skip back to Akos or Cyra as soon as they began.

I only recommend this book to those who enjoyed Carve the Mark. If you didn’t like the first book in this series, you probably won’t be willing to stick it out until the second half of Fates, when it finally gets good. But I’m glad I pushed through if only to discover the plot twist and to learn the ultimate fates of Akos and Cyra.

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226 reviews88 followers
April 7, 2023
I'm not sure if Veronica Roth was trying too hard, or not trying hard enough with this one.

In this book, Cyra and Akos go on a mission to

I admit that this book was slightly more intriguing than the first one- we got some cute Cyra/Akos moments and action scenes. But once again, just like the first book, much of the plot didn't make sense or was really sluggish. I found myself skimming over a couple pages, and still, nothing had happened.

The quest part took so long that I lost much of my interest from the start. And I just couldn't bring myself to read the whole thing with the eyeballs... *cringes* I am still dumbfounded as to the reason why being on the planet Ogra took them so long. We do get a major plot twist there, but even then, couldn't it be, I dunno, a hundred pages shorter? And it's not like Veronica Roth didn't drop a bunch of hints as to what it was.

I also didn't like that we didn't get more of an inside view on the real lineage of Cyra and Akos. Sure, it's talked about a little, but just to the point that Cyra gets super angsty again and Akos just abandons them to

I hated that we had a POV chapter for Akos's sister, Cisi. She honestly was such a bland character along with Isae- I felt no connection to them and wouldn't care if they jumped off a cliff. Akos's brother, Eijeh, was also very frustrating. We have Ryzek all nice and dead at the end of Carve the Mark, but find out that hey, . Eijeh honestly was just SO creepy, and his character was not written well either. Most of the side characters are just... there.

I'm just happy that this is a duology so that we don't have to deal with another of these books. I'm sure that Veronica Roth has enough money from Divergent.
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121 reviews101 followers
December 2, 2018
what a brilliant series.

i know, i know. i’m in the minority group who actually thinks this duology was utterly amazing. but i don’t care, i really do.
this is a story about origin, resilience, hope, strength, identity, family. it made me think a lot about xenophobia and preconceptions we gather along in life.

“But right now I’m standing among people who lost something. Friends, family. (...) How can I think that these people are any different from my own, any more worthy of violence or loss?”

the worldbuilding is simply fascinating. as a big sci-fi fan, it completely satisfied me in this matter. i also think veronica knew how to work with the languages in a natural and soft way. i also am a huge languages fan, so... i’m Satisfied™.
i also loved cyra and teka’s relationship. it felt tender and real and i could really see the feeling of friendship between them.
if it depended on me, i would say i’d like to see more of cisi and isae. but maybe it’s just me being a shipper. also, cyra and akos were just beautiful.
the writing was excelent. i felt no line was wasted. and the lights and the stars put up a show inside my head.
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