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Children of the Fleet

(Fleet School #1)

3.63  ·  Rating details ·  2,652 ratings  ·  332 reviews
From Orson Scott Card, award-winning and bestselling author of Ender's Game, his first solo Enderverse novel in years. Children of the Fleet is a new angle on Card's bestselling series, telling the story of the Fleet in space, parallel to the story on Earth told in the Ender's Shadow series. Ender Wiggin won the Third Formic war, ending the alien threat to Earth. ...more
Hardcover, 304 pages
Published October 10th 2017 by Tor Books
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Lyonardo Ohh, that explains a lot.
Those books never had the same spark of awe or shock that I expect from Mr Card.
Yes, I'm glad he decided to write this…more
Ohh, that explains a lot.
Those books never had the same spark of awe or shock that I expect from Mr Card.
Yes, I'm glad he decided to write this himself.
I literally just finished it.
Not as exciting as the previous "Enderverse" books, but still interesting in it's own way.(less)
Matt No. Ender does appear by ancible but is a bit redundant. He is about 15 and in route to his first colony.

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J.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
May 13, 2017 marked it as to-read
I'll read it, BUT

Why was this more important than Shadows Alive? Come on, man, two series, 14 books.... let's crank out that tie-together finale novel already.
Oct 21, 2017 rated it liked it
Shelves: scifi, review-freebie
Originally reviewed at Bookwraiths.

With Children of the Fleet, Orson Scott Card delivers the fast-paced, exciting space adventure he has long been synonymous with. This tale of teen genius Dabeet Ochoa riveting both in its re-purposing of battle school as well as its focus on the trial and tribulations of its new protagonist, as he encounters manipulation and mysteries along his way toward fulfilling his dreams.

After Ender Wiggin ended the Third Formic war, the focus of the International Fleet
Mogsy (MMOGC)
3.5 of 5 stars at The BiblioSanctum

I confess, I’m not too well-versed in the Enderverse, with Ender’s Game being the extent of my experience with the series. Still, I was drawn to the Children of the Fleet because it was pitched to me as the beginning of a new story arc which runs parallel to the events on Earth as told in the Ender’s Shadow sequence, so I decided to give it a try in the hopes that I won’t get too lost.

In this novel, we are given the
Oct 20, 2017 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Another disappointing novel by Orson Scott Card

I really enjoyed Ender's game and a few of the novels with Bean as the protagonist. Unfortunately, this novel seems like yet another novel that is trying to build off Ender's game with little success. This book overall just feels like as boring side story that could have been fifty pages long but was meticulously extended enough to warrant another book. Fool that I am I like to finish a series I start but for those that liked Ender's game I
Timothy Olson
Mar 06, 2019 rated it really liked it
Shelves: fiction
Another entry in the Ender's Game universe.

The story takes up shortly after the third formic war. We see how Battle School has been repurposed, the effects of Achille's plots from a different angle, and for the first time get a much better sense of who Hiram Graff is, or at least, wishes he was.

There are a few continuity errors in the text (for example the main character is said in one scene to lack micro-expressions, and a few chapters later the author explicitly mentions his microexpressions
Dec 10, 2017 rated it it was ok
We've heard this story four times already, and nothing of value is added to the Enderverse. "Genius kid" has been over milked now and it's time for the series to end.
Brent Ecenbarger
Sep 28, 2019 rated it really liked it
Shelves: ender
The Enderverse continues to do best when starting a new branch of books. Much like Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Earth Unaware, Card tells a straight forward story with genius characters overcoming difficult situations for the first time. I can only assume the sequels to this book will also drop in quality and becoming increasingly redundant (like the other books' sequels did) but at least we're off to a good start.

Taking place after Ender's Game but before the end the the Ender's Shadow
Oct 03, 2017 rated it it was amazing
I certainly hope that Orson doesn’t object when I quote him, but he sets the stage for his new series best: “Battle School has been re-purposed: It is now Fleet School, serving the brightest children from the International Fleet and the families and corporations that mine and manufacture in space, training leaders for the colony ships heading out from Earth to all the terraformed Formic worlds.” In short – he has a WINNER. Dabeet Ochoa, a genius level, arrogant 10-year old stand-out even in a ...more
Nick Jones
Oct 18, 2017 rated it it was ok
I wanted to like this, but compared to the rest of the Enderverse it was on the lower end of spectrum. Still lightyears ahead of the crapstorm of Shadows in Flight, but nowhere near the quality of the rest of the (great) books either. The first 80% of the book was simply "blah," with an unlikeable main character and a plot that wasn't compelling. It's almost as if OSC decided to have a big reveal with one of the series' main characters, and quickly came up with a story to make it happen.
James Swenson
Dec 20, 2018 rated it liked it
This was OK. But if you, an author, repeatedly include passages of unattributed dialogue that are pages long, you are just being annoying.
Lukas Lovas
Feb 10, 2018 rated it really liked it
An interesting read and a good addition to the enderverse.
Jul 26, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: rtbr
and may I say what an incredible honor it is to professionally review the great OSC - seriously.

(I gave this four stars in the RTBR October edition:

ard delivers the kind of fast-paced space adventure for which he is known, as well as the character development and relational conflict fans of Ender’s Game will appreciate. Readers new to Card or the Enderverse will have no trouble following Dabeet’s exploits, although Graff’s history lends an added
Liz (Quirky Cat)
Oct 29, 2017 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2017-reads
Children of the Fleet is the newest book based on the world most famous for Ender’s Game. As far as continuity is concerned, Children of the Fleet occurs after the third Formic War, but before humans have been able to confirm whether or not another war is on the way (as in, they have no idea if it’ll happen again). Despite being unsure if there’s another war on the horizon, the Battle School has been altered into the Fleet School, with the sole purpose being to raise commanders (as opposed to ...more
Oct 18, 2017 rated it liked it
A new edition to Enderverse. I am a fan of the Ender and Shadow series. Ender's Game is one of my all time favorite science fiction books. I've read it in print and audio more than once and always enjoy it. This book is not in the same class of book as Ender's Game but it is still an enjoyable read. Those who love the Ender and Shadow books should enjoy it. I will read more in the series when published. Much of the enjoyment of this book, I think, requires being familiar with the Ender and ...more
Mar 27, 2018 rated it it was ok
Shelves: 2018
Most of us can't read Orson Scott Card without some baggage. Mine comes in 3 sacks:
1. The joy of reading Ender's Game as a young teen. We got to study real sci-fi in school! It was fun. It was relatable. It felt original and cool. The sequels weren't all great, but they were interesting and kept a story going that I didn't want to end.
2. The horror of reading Card's Book of Mormon in Space series (whose real title I don't recall) a couple of years later. I didn't get every reference, but I knew
Lloyd Andrew Green
A few years ago, I was blown away by Orson Scott Card’s classic, Ender’s Game. Since then, I’ve been in search of any book, which added life to the Enderverse and I wasn’t disappointed. Seems there are seven books in the Ender series (about the further adventures of Ender Wiggin). Then there’s five novels that make up the Shadow saga about another brilliant kid from Battle school named Bean. His stories run parallel to Ender’s and delve into Bean’s efforts to help save Earth from the aliens (or ...more
Angela Blount
Mar 11, 2018 rated it liked it
Shelves: sci-fi
Originally reviewed for YA Books Central:

3.5 Stars

A fresh new story the Ender’s Game universe—this smart military-esque sci-fi is appealing to longtime fans, without alienating new explorers.

With the Formic Wars behind them and exploration/colonization now at the forefront of humanity’s drive, Battle School has been converted into Fleet School—a softer, less competitive version of the child prodigy training environment from Ender Wiggin’s day. But there
Tim Hicks
Mar 01, 2018 rated it liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
Make no mistake, I enjoyed reading this. But it's not a good book.

Ender Wiggin. Bean. Mazer Rackham. Achilles. And now Dabeet Ochoa.
Around we go again with the Boy Genius giving Card a reason to lecture us on something.
This time it's leadership, which of course has been heavily examined already in this universe.
I don't have any quarrel with what Card says here, and readers who haven't studied leadership might find it fascinating.

Speaking of Achilles: c'mon, was it 2002 he appeared. I've read
Travis Jackson
Oct 23, 2017 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: scifi
I'm sure that there will be many who will gripe that this was another attempt to draw out a series that should have been put to rest with the last in the Shadow series. There is some legitimacy behind that, but let's compare this series with the Star Trek and Star Wars franchises. Each has its following, but at least the Ender Universe has stuck to being written by Card and Aaron Johnston. Another justifiable critique is that the Second Formic Wars trilogy should have been completed before ...more
Dec 04, 2017 rated it liked it
Shelves: sci-fi
I LOVED the Ender series and I even liked the Shadow series. I was very excited to see where Card was going to take this book knowing it was "part" or a continuation of the Ender series. At times, it was a little tough and probably not as exciting as I remember Ender's Game being. Now that surely doesn't mean this isn't a good book, because it was a decent continuance to what has been set up in the past. In fact, I felt like I knew exactly what was going to happen and yes, it did, but not the ...more
I gave reading this the "old college try". I had read all of Card's Ender Universe books. Toward the end, I had to really push myself to read them as Card's style got severely preachy. When I got this book I thought it was part of the series of the early Formic Wars, not the Ender ones. But this seems an attempt to resurrect the Ender series. I found it quite boring and uninventive. Dabeet, the main character, seemed to be a theme and variation on Bean. His problems seem too similar to Beans but ...more
Bob Keeney
Mar 20, 2018 rated it it was amazing
Great continuation of Enders Game. The old Battle School is renamed Fleet School is it no longer teaching kids to be the warriors but now explorers. Debeet Ochoa is a brilliant kid that is a "child of the fleet" though he doesn't know who his father is. He quickly gets caught up in political intrigue as he scores better than Ender (though not as good as Bean) and gets sent to Fleet School.

While at Fleet School he learns how to innovate and, more importantly, become a friend to his teammates. Oh,
Alyssia Cooke
I have to admit to being less enthralled with this than others in this universe but that is less due to quality than circumstance. It incorporates hardly any of my favourite characters and if I’m brutally honest, I don’t really engage with any of the new ones in the same way. It’s well written though and has an engaging narrative that all comes together in the last third of the novel with an explosive finale.
Charlie F
Not worthy of the rest

Card phoned this one in. Endless, repetitive internal monologue and ruminating by the barely likable main character, with very little actual story. Some of the tie-ins with threads from other books were somewhat interesting, but this could have been a 40 page novella for $0.99. As it is, I wouldn’t expect to pay $12+ for an e-book from an established author whose work I otherwise like, and end up skimming page after page, waiting for something interesting.
Jan 15, 2018 rated it liked it
This one was a little hard to read for me, because I didn't empathize with the main character as much as I did for Ender or Bean. There was a lot of inner monologue that I had to trudge through with not a lot of plot.
What fun to be back in Ender’s universe - and with a guest appearance by Ender too!
Mar 07, 2018 rated it it was amazing
Card at his best. Telling stories about gifted, but flawed children.
Pascal Schuppli
Dec 27, 2017 rated it did not like it
I love OSC's early work. But it becomes harder and harder to find meaning in his new ones. I keep reading the new books trying to see if I find some remnant of the old OSC, only to be disappointed.

Children of the Fleet is quite possibly his worst book so far. OSC was once known for thoughtful books that depicted deeply imagined characters and through them illuminated ethical questions. Some of his books picked up biblical themes and retold them in the guise of Science Fiction. He wrote fantastic
Chris Haak
Mar 10, 2019 rated it liked it
Entertaining book, but not as exciting as others in the series. Had some slow spots.
Jan 11, 2020 rated it liked it
Dabeet is not as likable a character as Ender was, but his growth is handled just as well. Good book! OSC always has something interesting to say about education.

Here are a few of my favorite quotes:

Evil isn’t best served by equally evil servants. —A thing little understood by war-crimes tribunals dealing with civil servants in an evil regime. In what way did administrators of the water supply or transportation system absorb the evil of the regime? The more virtuous these civil servants are, the
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.

Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy series
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