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3.85  ·  Rating details ·  287 ratings  ·  55 reviews
Woede en wraak waren ooit nuttige zaken. Maar, betoogt filosofe Martha Nussbaum in haar nieuwe boek, de invoering van het rechtssysteem heeft het juist mogelijk gemaakt om ons door liefde en zorg te laten leiden. Want óf een voorval is zo misdadig dat we haar aan het recht overlaten, of zij is triviaal - en waarom zouden we in dat geval boos blijven en op wraak zinnen?
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Published November 2016 by Ambo|Anthos (first published May 1st 2016)
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In this most recent book by Martha Nussbaum, Professor of Law and Ethics at the University of Chicago, the author expands on and evolves beyond her previous writings on the topic of anger, and she includes the companion idea of forgiveness in her discussion. Nussbaums writings are always dense and well thought out, provoking ponderings on the part of her readers, and this book is no less challenging and stimulating. Convinced that much traditional and even current thought on anger is excessively ...more
Apr 30, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Octavian Gabor
Nov 26, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Nick Klagge
Jul 08, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Again, I found Nussbaum to be both extremely incisive and eminently readable. This book builds out one particular strand of a position on the emotions in general that she laid out in _Upheavals of Thought_, which is the book I actually wanted to read but wasn't available at our library. In this work, she turns a critical eye on the roles of both anger and forgiveness in our society. Her argument on anger is probably the more familiar--essentially, that it is almost always unproductive, and ...more
Kramer Thompson
Jun 10, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A very easily readable text, littered with many illustrative examples of anger (elucidating its weakness) drawn from Nussbaum's own experiences, fiction, and recent historical events. Nussbaum's primary contention was that we ought not to get angry, and ought instead to express unconditional love towards one another. Anger expresses either a desire for payback towards someone who has wronged you, or a down-ranking of that person in order to (relatively) improve your own social ranking. Either of ...more
Catherine  Mustread
From New Book Network:

"Anger is among the most familiar phenomena in our moral lives. It is common to think that anger is an appropriate, and sometimes morally required, emotional response to wrongdoing and injustice. In fact, our day-to-day lives are saturated with inducements not only to become angry, but to embrace the idea that anger is morally righteous. However, at the same time, were all familiar with the ways in which anger can go morally wrong.
Dec 16, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This was not an easy read, but it was so rewarding. It is the most convincing approach to forgiveness I have ever read. The anger portion is interesting, but not particularly remarkable, but her thoughts on forgiveness were really inspiring. I especially appreciated the end of the book where she talks about truth and reconciliation and social movements. I have always thought that South Africa's transition has been a particularly remarkable one and as Nussbaum dissects Cry the Beloved Country ...more
This is an amazing book. Lots of food for thought. I highly recommend it couldn't have enjoyed it more.

I got a copy from netgalley for my honest review this in no way affects my view on it
Sep 08, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Martha Nussbaum's Anger and Forgiveness is a philosophical exploration of the life of the emotions that benefits from numerous case studies, personal examples, and historical references. The fundamental point is that anger per se is a losing proposition. Nussbaum gives two major reasons: 1) being angry, and taking revenge, is not going to restore life to a murdered relative; 2) being angry and humiliating the offender so as to lower her status in life won't raise the status of the person who has ...more
Dan Graser
Oct 17, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This very passionate and dense text centers around the pernicious elements of both anger and forgiveness within normative social contexts, our criminal justice system, and within elements of various progressive revolutionary movements during the 20th Century. Martha Nussbaum is at all times an eloquent and erudite speaker and brings much in the way of history and philosophy to bear on these concepts.

Far from just going a middle road and identifying everything that is somewhat individual as,
Nov 29, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
It was recently brought to my attention that Martha Nussbaum has published a new book on anger and forgiveness. After a fairly grim year that was capped off by a presidential campaign that coupled a near absence of substantive discussion on issues with the unfurling of flags of anger and rage on both the right and the left, I decided that I needed to read her book. It is a fine book and one that will be appreciated by most people, especially those who from time to time get angry at themselves or ...more
Sharad Pandian
Jan 12, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: political-phil
Nussbaum's theoretical structure in the book is pretty straightforward: she claims that although anger signals being wronged, a conceptually necessary part of ordinary anger is the wish for payback against whoever wronged us. However this payback wish, and hence anger itself, is undesirable since:

1) No amount of it can bring back what has been lost
2) It involves magical thinking about how humiliating the wrong-doer will somehow elevate the victim's social standing
3) It threatens to unleash a
Hanik Kotecha
As always, Nussbaum is a great writer. The chapters flowed well and there is a clear progression from start to end.

If you plan on reading the book for the just the philosophical arguments, the first 3 chapters will more than suffice for you. The rest of the book deals with how one should apply these ideas into the real world.

The reason for just the three stars is due to my knowledge of the Stoic writings beforehand, thus Nussbaum's work is more of a modern update to include the importance of
Jan 24, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
If you ever look at protest signs and wonder how love powers a revolution, this is the book for you. In these days of injustice and justifiable anger, Martha Nussbaum's book is an argument for love. I think her argument can be challenging to contemporary thinkers - as it was at times to me - but, as always, Nussbaum is clear, well-reasoned, and focused on justice for every person.
Dec 29, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Much to think about here and I appreciated the way Nussbaum talks about the topic in: 1) intimate relationships, 2) the Middle Realm and 3) political justice. A hefty topic and much to process. A worthy read.
Jana Light
I don't agree with Nussbaum's definition of anger (I think there must be a version that doesn't wish ill on the perpetrator) so all that followed was flawed (for me). Otherwise a very accessible philosophical text on anger from the cognitivist tradition.
Ted Morgan
Jul 20, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
An essential reading for reformation of our social thinking. Being constructive opens doors.
Jul 08, 2019 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
This book was very anti-forgiveness which made me very angry and I would forgive Dr. Nussbaum for writing it but apparently that's not allowed so I guess I just have to rate it 2 stars instead
Sarah Collins
I was recommended Nussbaum and decided to read Anger and Forgiveness in the hope it would offer some insight into how to funnel the very real emotions of anger into something that can be a positive force for change. And it does offer this, but I find the fundamental premise of her entire argument flawed for numerous reasons.
1) She openly admits on numerous occasions that she believes that anger as an emotion has it's roots in human evolution, and then fails to even consult the research from
J Earl
Apr 15, 2016 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Anger and Forgiveness is Martha Nussbaum's exploration of anger, which she has addressed in previous work. In this volume she addresses forgiveness as a way to somewhat counter anger (though that is an extremely oversimplified statement).

While Nussbaum uses classical texts as part of her foundation don't get confused into thinking she is offering a complete and thorough interpretation of any of those texts. She uses what needs for her argument, and her use s are quite legitimate and valid. Don't
Nov 13, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
It's kind of a companion-piece and a deepening of her previous book, "Political Emotions." In "Political Emotions" she talks about disgust and what we could call civic love and how certain emotions can be taught in a secular society (like loving fellow citizens enough to buy into welfare programs). In the new one, she discusses Anger, and its role in social discourse, justice and politics. It's a really great book and it was a particularly wrenching thing to be halfway through on election day. ...more
Mar 19, 2017 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2017
My problem with this book is that I think her exception outweighs her central thesis. Yes, anger can be vengeful and destructive, particularly in the context of personal relationships, both intimate and non. But in the political realm it can be a signal for identifying injustice and motivation to make change - it can transition to positive future-focused action. Why advocate for non-anger when you can advocate for the transition? I also find Nussbaum's equation of non-anger and non-violence ...more
May 16, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: mindfulness
There were a few arguments that could take more support. (It seems like a stretch to use Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, to exemplify Christian thinking on getting forgiven, for instance.) Still, this is a valuable work calling for us to rethink the too common and too easy notions that anger equals strength or that retaliation brings closure and an important call to constructive ways of mending injustice.
Akshat Jha
Dec 13, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Wow, what a wonderful book! The ideas of anger and forgiveness are not new, but Nussbaum's refreshing ideas on both-whether it be doing away with the justification of anger in the forms of payback and status degradation, or promoting the idea of Transition Anger (an innovative concept) or showcasing the futility of forgiveness in many situations make for a great read, especially if you are a sucker for logic and reason like I am. 5/5
Jerry Wall
Why be angry? What is the advantage. the author spends time on justified anger as limned in
ancient Greek and Latin plays stories and philosophical writings. Ultimately, I believe with the Buddhists, that anger is a poor way to handle your thoughts. As they say, things happen that are not pleasant so it is up to us how we think through those unpleasantnesses. The better way, for me, is to
think what is best for me, not how to get even with someone, or how to make them pay, or how to make them
May 25, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Wow, what a book. I spent a lot of time rereading -- not because it was dense and academic (it is) -- but because it contains some morality-, and certainly religion-shaking, concepts. Overall, this book gave a lot. I'd recommend it if you're looking for an alternative to our angry, payback-preoccupied society.
Nov 28, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is an intensely challenging book and one I recommend to anyone. It has flaws, chief among them some of Nussbaum's cultural assumptions. But as we think about civilization and progress, she makes a compelling argument for a better road forward.
Bob Shadel
Feb 14, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
very thorough discussion of anger and attendant forgiveness. Well researched. Some really good thoughts and approaches to less anger, which is mostly useless and better served by "gentle temper", humor and higher responses.
Danielle Morrill
Fantastic philosophy read, if you dont read philosophy regularly stick with it and you will get used to the more academic style. The appendix is also great, and is read on Audible. ...more
Exceeded expectations for reading about what you might think you couldn't write a whole book about.
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Professor Nussbaum is the Ernst Freund Distinguished Service Professor of Law and Ethics at the University of Chicago, appointed in the Philosophy Department, Law School, and Divinity School. She is an Associate in the Classics Department and the Political Science Department, a Member of the Committee on Southern Asian Studies, and a Board Member of the Human Rights Program. She is the founder and ...more

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