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A considerable amount of public debate and media print has been devoted to the “war between science and religion.” In his accessible and eminently readable new book, Stephen M. Barr demonstrates that what is really at war with religion is not science itself, but a philosophy called scientific materialism. Modern Physics and Ancient Faith argues that the great discoveries o
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Paperback, 328 pages
Published
February 28th 2003
by University of Notre Dame Press
(first published 2003)
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Easily one of the most thought-provoking, intellectually satisfying, and comprehensively mind-blowing books I have ever read. I hope I don't completely overstate how awesome this book is, but if you have any inkling of interest in science and/or apologetics, this book is for you five times over.
One of my favorite features of the book is how Barr approaches the arguments on both sides with openness and rationality, examining critically arguments for and against. Multiple times through the book, ...more
One of my favorite features of the book is how Barr approaches the arguments on both sides with openness and rationality, examining critically arguments for and against. Multiple times through the book, ...more

I'm not a science person, and this book is a few years old now, so take this for what it's worth. This is a fantastic and lucidly written introduction to some of the questions modern physics raises about God, the universe, and the mind. Primarily a challenge to materialism as opposed to a robust defense of theism, the book introduces the reader to the basic developments in physics in the twentieth century and argues that, far from vindicating philosophically materialist conclusions, those develo
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Perfectly serviceable in terms of anthropic coincidences and creation of the universe. But it really shines in its discussion of the problems that materialism has in dealing with the mind. Not just that materialism can not possibly account for the universal human experience of free will and meaningful thought, but that materialism is in fact incompatible with current math and science. Interesting stuff.

Ignore the silly biologists like Richard Dawkins, whose area of study is narrow enough that they don't have to ask questions like "why does the universe exist?" The people to speak to are the physicists, who must confront questions about the origins of space and time and how they came to be what they are. As Barr shows, such questions lead steadily and surely to one conclusion: there is a God, and it is rational to believe in Him.
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A good survey of findings from science (mostly physics) and their relevance to a religious (mostly Christian) worldview. Barr does pretty well handling ideas/arguments from philosophy and is adept at explaining difficult concepts from the natural sciences. That's not to say it's an easy read, though!
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This book is simply brilliant.. Not too difficult - not too easy to read. Stephen is a great physicist! I'm from Poland and unfortunately the entire printout was sold out.. but I bought this book for 3 x the usual price and I just want to say.. it was worth it!
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Plenty of ink has been spilled on the relationship between science and religion; no one really needed an additional book arguing, or denying, that religion is in conflict with science. What I most liked about Stephen Barr's contribution is that it doesn't read like such a book. If anything, Barr-- a Catholic who's a leading cosmologist and theoretical physicist-- seems concerned to defend science from the charge of conflicting with religion.
At the outset, Barr states his thesis lucidly. He notes ...more
At the outset, Barr states his thesis lucidly. He notes ...more

Finally sat down to finish this. Too good a book to be treated in this fashion! Stephen Barr has, for my money, a lot of GK Chesterton's ability to look at the implicit assumptions of modern thought and point out its inconsistencies. He just does it with contemporary physics instead of theology, politics, and literature.
Whatever you feel about his conclusions, if you read this you will get a tour of the philosophical issues at play in many different subfields of modern physics--particle physics ...more
Whatever you feel about his conclusions, if you read this you will get a tour of the philosophical issues at play in many different subfields of modern physics--particle physics ...more

Yes, this book is older so some of the science content is likely outdated, but Barr presents some great facts as to how and why dogma/religion aren't hostile to science, nor are they anti-rational. He briefly discusses the math and science (delving a little more into each in Appendix C and B respectively), but this book was written to be read by ANYONE interested in the intersection of science and faith.
I'm a mathematics teacher and found the physics information to be more understandable than, s ...more
I'm a mathematics teacher and found the physics information to be more understandable than, s ...more

With a title like Modern Physics and Ancient Faith, one might expect another book describing the purported conflict between science and religion. Instead physicist Stephen Barr argues that "...the conflict is not between religion and science, it is between religion and materialism", a philosophical opinion closely related to science. He explains, "The basic tenet of so-called 'scientific materialism' is that nothing exists except matter, and that everything in the world must therefore be the res
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I loved this book and learned a lot from it. I particularly like the author's knack for explaining high level science and theology with clear, practical analogies. Apparently there is a more recent edition with a preface discussing some minor updates based on recent science. This book is well worth a read. I had the opportunity to meet the author earlier this month and was inspired by how humble and kind he is.
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Se nota mucho la veta de docente que tiene Barr. Estoy impresionado de cómo puede explicar temas tan complejos, en un abanico de diferentes dificultades.
Desde una explicación básica, fácil y amena de leer, hasta una de gran complejidad para los más expertos.
Sin esta característica, hubiera sido imposible de leer.
Por otra parte, el libro cubre un montón de temas, dando un panorama completo sobre las consecuencias filosóficas de los últimos 100 años de la física.
Desde una explicación básica, fácil y amena de leer, hasta una de gran complejidad para los más expertos.
Sin esta característica, hubiera sido imposible de leer.
Por otra parte, el libro cubre un montón de temas, dando un panorama completo sobre las consecuencias filosóficas de los últimos 100 años de la física.

Interesting argument for the ability of science and faith to intersect. I'm not sure I agree with many of the arguments presented, but it was a fascinating read. Not too heavy on technical terminology. I'm not a "science person" and understood it fine.
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I read this shortly after reading The Big Picture by Sean Carroll, which gives a pretty good description of a naturalist/materialist view of reality. I was hoping for some form of rebuttal of some of the arguments made in Carroll's book, and I was pleasantly surprised at the thoroughness with which Barr deals with the really crucial issues.
The aim of the book is not to prove the Christian cosmology, but merely to refute the idea that scientific materialism is the inevitable world view to be adop ...more
The aim of the book is not to prove the Christian cosmology, but merely to refute the idea that scientific materialism is the inevitable world view to be adop ...more

This book should be required reading for every materialist. Wholly convincing and ridiculously impressive.

This book does an excellent job introducing the materialism vs. true science debate as well as relating the discoveries of modern physics to philosophy and theology.
Dr. Barr's books fills a great need in informing the public and scientists alike that true science and theology are indeed symbiotic, not antibiotic. And Dr. Barr does so in an enlightening, Penrose-like style.
Readers of this book would also enjoy Dr. Anthony Rizzi's The The Science Before Science: A Guide to Thinking in the 21st ...more
Dr. Barr's books fills a great need in informing the public and scientists alike that true science and theology are indeed symbiotic, not antibiotic. And Dr. Barr does so in an enlightening, Penrose-like style.
Readers of this book would also enjoy Dr. Anthony Rizzi's The The Science Before Science: A Guide to Thinking in the 21st ...more

Much of the mathematical material in this fascinating work is beyond my limited ability to comprehend. I was able to follow most of the logic, but was challenged by the equations and various proofs presented in support of the logic. Having said that, Dr. Barr has done a great job of demonstrating the difficulty of trying to disprove "God" scientifically. In fact, he argues that modern science leaves the basic question of meaning unanswered. In reality, the revelations of modern science seem to s
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This is a great look at the relationship between science and faith, which, as Barr argues, are not at odds with one another. Barr explains that materialism, a belief that physical processes explain all of existence, is the foe of faith, as opposed to science. If fact, much of the cutting edge developments in science fly in the face of materialism and seem to support belief in God. Even though Barr and I wouldn't agree on every point of religious doctrine, his thorough argument for belief is a we
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Barr has done an excellent job of putting into words what so many philosophers and physicists have struggled to say for so long. All of the arguments are presented in a clear and concise way.
There were moments when I was worried that the author was starting to show a belief in a God-of-the-gaps, but every time the argument spun around in a slightly unexpected way that kept me on my toes.
I found Barr's claims on the position of the early Church regarding cosmology particularly interesting, so the ...more
There were moments when I was worried that the author was starting to show a belief in a God-of-the-gaps, but every time the argument spun around in a slightly unexpected way that kept me on my toes.
I found Barr's claims on the position of the early Church regarding cosmology particularly interesting, so the ...more

This book is very slanted toward "modern physics" supporting the existence of God. I get irritated when science trys to disclaim God using the same techniques so in all fairness, I am holding this author to the same standard. I may return to it when the weather isn't so hot and I'm less cranky:)
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really makes me wish that I'd paid more attention to Dr. O in astronomy class. This is great stuff so far.
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Totally recommend this, for it's scope and depth.
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Stephen M. Barr is a professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy of the University of Delaware. His physics research interests include theoretical particle physics. His particular areas of expertise are grand unified theories, theories of CP violation, theories of neutrino masses and mixing, and particle cosmology, especially theories of baryogenesis and dark matter.
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