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Van de jonggestorven, iconische dichter Ingrid Jonker is bekend dat ze mannen het hoofd op hol wist te brengen. Een van hen was de onlangs gestorven schrijver André Brink. Tot kort voor Ingrids zelfgekozen dood, op haar eenendertigste, was hij haar vurige minnaar. Op geografische afstand, wat voor de literatuurgeschiedenis nu een zegen blijkt. Want het noodde hen tot een j ...more
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Published May 2nd 2016 by Podium
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Nanette Tredoux
Jan 02, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I read this book with reverence and a sense of duty, out of huge respect and admiration for the writers. I was impressed, moved, frustrated and confused. The book comes at you like Ravel's Bolero, passionate, repetitive, obsessive. There isn't much of a story, and if you are familiar with their lives, you know how things unfolded anyway. What you read is what they shared in letters. It was a very painful love affair, searingly intense emotionally and physically. It was also a meeting of minds, a ...more
Nerine Dorman
Dec 21, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Flame in the Snow: The Love Letters of André Brink & Ingrid Jonker was on my must-read list the moment I heard about the book. But a bit of back-story. Ingrid Jonker was always a semi-mythic figure to me. I first heard about her when we studied her writing during high school. It was a short story of hers – "Die Bok" (The Goat) which haunted me even back then. Yet her poetry always struck me as vivid, somehow more vibrant than many of the other poets we studied. My mom and I always disagree a ...more
Monique Snyman
Jan 16, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: non-fiction
Flame in the Snow: The Love Letters of André Brink & Ingrid Jonker, is a collection of letters and telegrams between two of South Africa's greatest writers. We read about their romantic liaisons, their everyday lives, their innermost secrets, and more. It's a look into the thoughts and emotions shared by two literary marvels in a time when South Africa was experiencing political turbulence. These letters and telegrams are provocative and beautiful and sometimes downright literary.

Here's the thing, though:
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Vicki Wilson
Feb 09, 2016 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I am so ashamed at how unashamedly I loved reading the correspondence between two of South Africa's most iconic literary writers.
Jeroen
May 14, 2017 rated it really liked it
Het verloop van de relatie tussen Ingrid Jonker (gescheiden met kind) en André Brink (getrouwd met kind) is goed af te leiden uit de brieven die ze elkaar sturen in de periode 1963 en 1965. Aanvankelijk hartstochtelijk, zeer verliefd en gepassioneerd, later, na een moeizaam verlopen reis van hen samen naar Parijs en Barcelona, getroebleerd, gereserveerd. De brieven lopen over van poëzie en lyriek, maar ook van geilheid (Brink) en weemoed (Jonker), al komen ook de dagelijkse besognes meer en meer ...more
Bookish
It is common knowledge that the brilliant poet, Ingrid Jonker drowned herself in the 1960s. But until these letters, I was unaware that this happened just three months after the final letter from her lover, novelist, Andre Brink. It felt somewhat voyeuristic, to be reading such personal and explicit letters. I found the book disturbing; at times it filled me with outrage and sorrow. But it was also fascinating, passionate, and beautiful. Not only full of gorgeous love poems (by Brink and Jonker ...more
Wendy
Nieuwsgierig naar het liefdesrelaas tussen Jonker & Brink, en naar een (hun) schets van de Afrikaanse literaire wereld van de jaren '60, begon ik de briefwisseling te lezen. Geen idee hebbende dat het zó onderhoudend en ontroerend zou zijn.

'Mijn kamertje hier is warm en eenzaam en op de muren van mijn verveling schrijf ik je naam.' I.J., 10 maart 1964

NB Ik ben de vertalers dankbaar dat zij (i.t.t. de Afrikaanse en Engelse variant) wél kozen voor een notenapparaat. Hie
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Cate Coen
Dec 28, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Exquisite.
Nikki
I was entranced! Knowing there would not be a "happily ever after" I desperately wanted to know how they reached the end. Now I know!
Tiah
Sometimes it does not feel appropriate to take out quotes. This is one of those times.
Imen Benyoub
Aug 05, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
We
For André

In this way you will die off of me
In your futile seed
Naked like water___a burning shimmer
Like late
April
Like hands___naked

Lovely as mortality
As a final word
Sad as blood
No little one
Only
This little death

Tomorrow the burning shimmer of our un-
Begotten seed___tomorrow
Dawn the blossoms
New girls like virgins
Tomorrow
You die___and I

Ingrid Jonker
Rozanne Visagie
I've waited for this book with such anticipation!! When I finally got it I started reading immediately. I was so "inlove" with their being inlove. I really wished that they did take their relationship further, but of course they respected certain parties in their own lives.
They originality of the letters is just amazing. I talked repeatedly about this book to everyone, and even started to feel that longing that they both felt for each other.
When I finally came to the end it was a sho
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Pieter Rossouw
Nov 01, 2016 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Ek het 'n boheemse liefdesverhaal verwag - en die werklikheid is onsamehangende briewe wat buite konteks aanmekaar geplak is en 'n alewige gekerm oor hoe swaar die lewe is. Ek moes myself forseer om klaar te lees. Werklik telleurstellend.
Gordon Greaves
Mar 20, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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Pip
Mar 22, 2019 rated it really liked it
Een prachtig relaas van 2 mensen over het leven en (mogelijk- en onmogelijkheid van) de liefde, bij tijd en wijle voor mij hartverscheurend herkenbaar.
Niet gemakkelijk (om te lezen), als het leven zelf.
Loraine
Mar 17, 2016 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: friend-s-book
Ek het aanvanklik die boek begin lees en na 'n paar briewe kon ek die gekoer en gekweel nie uitstaan nie. Ek het egter die boekbekendstelling gaan bywoon, waar Karina, Breyten, Simone en Francis Galloway was. Die gesprek het my toe aangespoor om verder te lees. Ek het egter nie van mening verander nie. Ek dink dat die samesteller die briewe strenger moes redigeer/ reduseer het en die groot gapings met die werklike gebeure ingevul het. Ek moes Louise Viljoen se biografie van Brink gebruik om die ...more
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André Philippus Brink was a South African novelist. He wrote in Afrikaans and English and was until his retirement a Professor of English Literature at the University of Cape Town.

In the 1960s, he and Breyten Breytenbach were key figures in the Afrikaans literary movement known as Die Sestigers ("The Sixty-ers"). These writers sought to use Afrikaans as a language to speak against the
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“But writers are of course mad, sick beings who will not rest just knowing things – sometimes deliciously, at full throttle; they must go and contaminate the experience with words, too, say it.” 2 likes
“Ek weet ons staan vry teenoor mekaar, bind mekaar aan niks, verbind mekaar tot niks: maar ek wens ek kon by jou wees; en help. Nie net om ’n woonplek te kry en al die peuterighede van elke dag te deel nie; maar – dalk – om te help om van alleenwees langsaam te genees.” 0 likes
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