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Seeing Redd

(The Looking Glass Wars #2)

Frank Beddor (Goodreads Author)

3.85 · Rating details · 17,381 ratings · 1,188 reviews

Alyss of Wonderland's rule has only just begun, and already those who prefer chaos to peace are threatening to destroy everything worth imagining. Trailed by newly appointed royal bodyguard Homburg Molly, Alyss is doing her best to keep pace with the non-stop demands of being queen while attempting to evade Molly for a few private moments with Dodge.

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Dec 01, 2010 Jamie rated it it was amazing

Shelves: fantasy, young-adult

This is the sequel to The Looking Glass Wars.

Redd has been banished from Wonderland. She is determined to find her way back to her world by any means necessary. Alyss is the new queen who has much to learn about ruling. And a new enemy is making his move. King Arch of Borderlands is determined to have wonderland for himself. He reeks havoc and even kidnaps Molly.

Once again, Frank Beddor has done am amazing job of recreating the magical realm of Wonderland. All the favorites from the last book ...more

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Jan 18, 2010 Heather rated it liked it

Shelves: my-scifi-pics

I liked The Looking Glass Wars enough to really want to like this sequel, as well. But unfortunately, all of Beddor's flaws in book 1 are even more present in Seeing Redd.

In this sequel, Alyss Heart is now queen of Wonderland, but she's got her hands full -- King Arch in neighboring Boarderland is plotting against her and has kidnapped Homburg Molly. Redd and her assassin The Cat have escaped to earth through the Crystal (by means not fully explained) where they're wreaking havoc and amassing an I liked The Looking Glass Wars enough to really want to like this sequel, as well. But unfortunately, all of Beddor's flaws in book 1 are even more present in Seeing Redd.

In this sequel, Alyss Heart is now queen of Wonderland, but she's got her hands full -- King Arch in neighboring Boarderland is plotting against her and has kidnapped Homburg Molly. Redd and her assassin The Cat have escaped to earth through the Crystal (by means not fully explained) where they're wreaking havoc and amassing an army. Hatter Madigan stumbles on some very personal secrets and sets about to make amends. And Dodge and Alyss struggle with balancing her responsibilities, his bitterness, and their respective obligations while admitting their affections for each other.

All of these plot twists have the making for an excellent story -- I was thrilled to see more time given to Hatter especially -- but it fell short, again, in poorly executed descriptions. There was SO much time given to Redd and Arch, and so much less to Alyss and her allies, which wouldn't have been so bad if that time had covered something interesting. But Arch and Redd are shallow, textbook villains, spouting ridiculously corny lines and plotting in predictable ways (for a truly excellent spoof of this fantasy pitfall, check out Joss Whedon's Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog). And when we do see the good guys, the storyline is a bit of a mess. Homburg Molly, who was endearing in book 1 because of her pluck and verve, is reduced to a zero-action existence as a captive in Arch's encampment. Hatter's big discovery and subsequent reunions and interactions around it don't really go anywhere exciting (I can't say more without giving away plot, but after all the build-up about his deep, hidden emotions, the actual fell pretty flat). Dodge and Alyss start some interesting conversations about what it means to love and protect someone against their own self-hatred and bitterness, but again, the theme is left undeveloped while the plot turns to repeated vague descriptions of combat. I still don't know what a spirit-dane is, although thankfully I could actually read the map in book 2. And when will that rook be given an actual name???

But I admit, I'll tough this out for book 3, simply because the story is creative, and hope Beddor improves. ...more

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Sep 08, 2007 Jessica rated it really liked it

Shelves: youngadult

The problem with Beddor's books is that he's created a world so wonderful, so fantastic, and then he doesn't give you enough. Alyss, barely a character in Looking-Glass Wars, really, is not all that more intriguing here. She's growing into a strong queen, but we have no real sense of her as a character. Redd is frankly cartoonish. And many of the oft-mentioned creatures of Wonderland are never described. What's a gwormmy? A spirit-dane? Anyone? Anyone? Despite this I still couldn't put the book ...more

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Mar 04, 2009 Sammi rated it it was amazing

I am not going to lie, I liked this book much better than the first. Something about it was so much more interesting, so indefinably more plot oriented, that I just couldn't help but like it more.
By the way, Hatter Madigan is still the bomb.
One of the reasons I think I like t so much better is because of Redd. She is just such a good villain, cruel, merciless...everything a good reader could want. I find nothing more enjoyable than a bad guy who thinks everything else is below them. It's an odd ...more

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Dec 12, 2007 Gphatty rated it did not like it

Recommends it for: no-one

I found out about this "2nd in a triology" and I was very intrigued by the concept: factions fighting for control of an actual Wonderland, complete with card soldiers and caterpillars, the whole works.

But the author just can't handle more than plot-driven writing. Vivid descriptions of the beauty of wonderland are mixed with leaded prose that practically screams "pay attention: plot point." I didn't even bother to finish, even after giving the 1st book in this series a shot.

This sequel will pr ...more

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Sep 12, 2019 Shelby rated it really liked it

Shelves: m-f, deserve-additional-reads, kickass-heroine, military-former-military-merc, retelling, established-couples, kidnapping-abduction, kids-or-dependents, magic-mage, most-recent-read-in-series

I didn't like this book as much as the first, in large part because it feels almost like a place holder to get everyone back in the game before the final confrontation. Really this book is more about Hatter and his issues than about Alyss and her battle with her aunt. It takes Redd most of the book to get back to Wonderland and Arch is thrown in as this temporary villain to cause problems until Redd can get there.

That being said I do like this take on Wonderland and I felt for Hatter in this bo ...more

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May 07, 2008 Chris rated it liked it

Shelves: i-own

Ah, Alyss and Wonderland. I first jumped down Beddor's rabbit hole with the Hatter M comics and shortly after that with The Looking Glass Wars. I had just finished reading the 'original' Alice stories by Carroll and had that imagery fresh in my head. I thoroughly enjoyed the first book and had a lot of fun with the new and very creative interpretation of the Wonderland world and the characters and interactions found there. Snippets of Beddor's writing style bugged me a little bit, but I got used Ah, Alyss and Wonderland. I first jumped down Beddor's rabbit hole with the Hatter M comics and shortly after that with The Looking Glass Wars. I had just finished reading the 'original' Alice stories by Carroll and had that imagery fresh in my head. I thoroughly enjoyed the first book and had a lot of fun with the new and very creative interpretation of the Wonderland world and the characters and interactions found there. Snippets of Beddor's writing style bugged me a little bit, but I got used to them.

In Seeing Redd, the second book in the Looking Glass saga, I wasn't quite as happily fulfilled. The first book, while it had a handful of issues like most books do, was a tightly woven story with compelling characters and a great story arc. While it obviously left itself open for the potential of a continuing saga, it also tied up most loose ends and left us with a very fulfilling and happy place to leave Alyss and her friends. The second book did not tie things up neatly. Normally that wouldn't be a problem for me. Some of my favorite books have been members of a series and often ended with wildly dramatic cliffhangers.

So what is different about Seeing Redd that leaves me unhappily unsettled? The problem, as I see it, is that the tone and styling of the novel seemed almost ignorant to the fact that it was leaving so much in the air by its end. The writing seemed to believe that everything was going to tie itself off nicely by the end of the final page. Rather than identifying and exposing the suspense of the loose threads, the novel practically disavowed their existence.

In the first book, I found myself turning pages faster and faster as I neared the end and as I did so, I was growing more and more nervous that the author wasn't going to have time to wrap things up. In the first book, the action took on a rip-roaring pace to finish things up neatly in a short amount of time. It moved quickly but didn't become disorienting.

As I neared the end of book two, I was again nervous that things weren't going to wrap up, but I recalled my previous experience and trusted the author to leave me with a satisfactory ending because I had no suggestions from the text that there would be any sort of suspenseful interlude between book 2 and book 3.

As the climax of the final battle wound down, I realized that I was in fact going to have to wait until book 3 for any additional conclusion. I wasn't left with a cliffhanger or any sort of major suspense. Rather, the resulting finish left me in a state of confusion. Most of the major action of book 2 had been nullified completely. There were a few alliances made which could be utilized in future stories. There were some intriguing actions that needed to be re-explored (like the kidnapping of a certain author), but for the most part, I feel like I could probably jump right into book 3 without ever reading book 2 and it's not likely that I would miss anything that a single chapter couldn't recap ("Character X aligns with Character Y. Characters A and B are betrayed and killed by Character X.", etc.).

Still, I am absolutely enjoying this world and the stories and imagination in this new Wonderland. I look forward to the new adventures. Despite my complaints above, I truly did enjoy this book and had a lot of fun with the characters and their struggles and triumphs. I just would have preferred the book to either be more adept in 'wrapping things up' or in adequately portraying a sense of suspense and anticipation for things to come. The current ending left me in a bit of a stupor.

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Oct 18, 2007 Wendy Cornelisen rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Here's an interesting twist on the Lewis Carol classic. Alyss is from Wonderland and the heir to her mother's Queendom. Her Aunt Red, who was banished after killing the previous Queen (yes, her own mother) attacks her sister's throne, and gains control for herself. Alyss escapes to Earth, a crude reflection of her true home.

The story follows Alyss' new life and trials on Earth, and the horrors that Red, Her Imperial Viciousness, rains down on Wonderlanders.

It's a great new look at the classic ...more

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May 05, 2013 Arie rated it liked it

Shelves: faerytales, fantasy-unusual, young-adult

Not as good as the first, but the unique world of Beddor's Alice in Wonderland re-imagining is absolutely worth a revisit. Some of the writing shows up as clunky now that the novelty of Looking Glass Wars has worn off, but it is utterly readable and again, unique and interesting enough to keep me invested with the trilogy. ...more

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Jul 18, 2014 Jane rated it it was ok · review of another edition

I honestly didn't care that much for the first book in this series. I read this because I'm honestly just trying to power through a pile of books I've obtained over the span of a few years, so my expectations were pretty low for this novel.

Like the first installment, the writing in this book is about a middle school level (think Stephanie Meyer). The whole, it felt like I was reading poorly written fanfiction (and there are some great, well-written fanfiction out there!). The characters were ver I honestly didn't care that much for the first book in this series. I read this because I'm honestly just trying to power through a pile of books I've obtained over the span of a few years, so my expectations were pretty low for this novel.

Like the first installment, the writing in this book is about a middle school level (think Stephanie Meyer). The whole, it felt like I was reading poorly written fanfiction (and there are some great, well-written fanfiction out there!). The characters were very flat and lifeless, the relationships forced and predictable. It honestly reads more like a script for a graphic novel, with the amount of obnoxious text sound effects. That format would better suited to the story for a lot of writings, poor writing being first and foremost.

As far as the plot goes, the author has some pretty interesting ideas but is terrible at executing them. Some of the concepts of Wonderland and the characters were pretty interesting but just weren't given enough time to develop into something better. King Arch for example. Terribly sexist, awful ruler. He literally sounded like a ten year old who didn't like girls, plain and simple. Instead of using his sexism as a kind of talking point, to illustrate how that shows him as a weaker ruler, etc, he just makes royal decrees that men can't cry or watch rom-coms, basically. Think the MRA skit with Lena Dunham on SNL, another interesting idea that went nowhere.

My other complaint would be the magic. I'm totally fine with magic that doesn't have a lot of rules or explanation to it, but the imagination didn't really make sense at all. Another reviewer mentioned that Alyss and Redd seemed to just be doing the same thing over and over, and I agree. It wasn't particularly impressive, imaginative, or unique in it's powers and how Wonderlanders used them.

Again, I definitely did not read this book because I had any kind of hope for it, I fully expected to not like it. For anyone who loves Wonderland and all of it's new and different incarnations, I would recommend this book for it's IDEAS but caution strongly against the writing. ...more

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Mar 28, 2011 Stephanie Cover2CoverBlog rated it it was ok

Shelves: ya

So...I was not too sure about the first book of this series. I like the idea and concept however the writing was a little bad in some ways and was a bit off-putting. I read Seeing Redd in an attempt to pursue the storyline more than my enjoyment of the first book.

I think Beddor got a little in over his head with this one. The plot is as follows:
After the end of the first book, Redd has jumped into the Crystal Heart, so we aren't sure if she is dead or alive and plotting, meanwhile Arch the king ...more

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Apr 10, 2014 Mizuki rated it liked it

Shelves: young-adult-books, it-is-okay

It's a decent read, the action scenes are good, but the characters and some of the 'shocking plot twists' are a bit too cliched. ...more

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Feb 21, 2020 Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) rated it liked it

Shelves: ya-fantasy, fairytale-retellings, go-ask-alice

There are spoilers ahead for The Looking Glass Wars. Alyss Heart is the newly instated queen of Wonderland, but the threats haven’t stopped since Redd jumped into the Heart Crystal. She worries her aunt will appear in another form, and she’s facing threats from Boarderland’s misogynistic King Arch. When there’s an attack on the Crystal Continuum and her personal bodyguard, Homburg Molly, goes missing, Alyss’s queendom is threatened from within. Hatter Madigan will do anything to get Molly back i There are spoilers ahead for The Looking Glass Wars. Alyss Heart is the newly instated queen of Wonderland, but the threats haven’t stopped since Redd jumped into the Heart Crystal. She worries her aunt will appear in another form, and she’s facing threats from Boarderland’s misogynistic King Arch. When there’s an attack on the Crystal Continuum and her personal bodyguard, Homburg Molly, goes missing, Alyss’s queendom is threatened from within. Hatter Madigan will do anything to get Molly back including, even, disobeying his queen. Threats: death, parent death, some people being eaten alive, violence, blood, raging sexism and bigotry from the villain, fat-shaming, grief.

Sometimes my feelings about a series don’t change that much throughout, and Seeing Redd is about on the same level as The Looking Glass Wars. The things I liked about it are consistent: solid characters, imaginative world-building, rapid pace. The things I didn’t are the same: uninspiring villains, not quite enough descriptions of all the weird magic and weapons. There are maybe a few too many action scenes here, as almost every chapter includes a battle of some kind, and an overdose of sound effects. I started skipping everything in italics, since I’m reading a novel and not a comic book.

This also scales back the character development quite a bit, and I didn’t see as much of Alyss coming into her power as I wanted to in this book. If anyone has development, it’s Hatter, and it’s easy to see that Beddor is more enamored of his stoic assassin than his Wonderland queen. (There’s also at least one character in here that serves no purpose whatsoever, except perhaps additional angst.) I don’t know that Arch is a better villain than Redd, but I certainly had more feelings about him, and they were all bad. The man can’t say a word without offending the entire female species, and I look forward to the day Redd double crosses him and feeds him to her flesh-eating roses.

Seeing Redd also has the slight lull of second books in a trilogy. It sets up its own plot with renewed threats on Wonderland from Redd and its neighboring kingdom, Boarderland, but almost all of the closure is left for the third novel. While I like the characters and the world-building, the overall plot isn’t all that different from a lot of fantasy and dystopian trilogies. Our heroes are fighting to overthrow an oppressive ruler and defend their king (or queen)dom. While books like this might have been setting the trend for that plot ten years ago, it’s not one of my favorite stories. I like these, but I’ll probably never love them.

I review regularly at brightbeautifulthings.tumblr.com. ...more

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Dec 14, 2015 Samantha wickedshizuku Tolleson rated it really liked it

Recommends it for: 7th Grade and up

Recommended to Samantha wickedshizuku by: previous book

Shelves: 2015, reviewed, female-lead, 4-stars, can-i-live-in-this-book, not-manga, make-the-kids-read, title-s

Wow! This just dove right into the politics, and seems that it's rather outlandish seeing that the settings is Wonderland.
Okay, I'm really not a fan of this King Arch. Men, this guy is not an example to follow. If you do, you'll deserve the slap in the face you are sure to get someday.
The way Cat and Redd are introduced back into the story is so eerie and morbid.
The plot is absolutely everywhere dividing your attention here, there, and everywhere. I was also feeling like there is an aspect that ...more

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Oct 18, 2016 Katrina rated it liked it

Shelves: hard-copies, buddy-reads

This is exactly what I was afraid of. I loved the first book so much. The second book is just meh. It was separated into 3 parts. The entire first part dragged on so slowly. It wasn't until the second part that things started to pick up a little. This book had more to do with action than it did with anything else. I loved the first book because it provided the foundation and the back story of all the characters that I love so much. There wasn't much character development here, so I was bored fai ...more

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Sep 06, 2015 SmilingDork rated it it was amazing

Shelves: favorites

Loved it!!!!! Will write review tonight along with several others I need to catch up on. ;P

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Apr 21, 2018 Heather W rated it liked it

3.5 stars. I was a tad disappointed with this book as compared to the first it is slow and clunky in places. However, once it got going it was a good story and worthy of notice. I loved Hatter Madigan again, he will always be my favourite character and wish he had been introduced a bit earlier in the story.

I did enjoy the book, and have moved on to the last book in the series, however, I do find Mr Beddor's writing style to be a little irritating when describing the fighting scenes with....

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May 01, 2020 Rachel rated it really liked it

Shelves: retellings, alice-in-wonderland

3.75 stars

This series is definitely giving me vibes of a little boy (the author) having fun playing with his toys, making up crazy stories while making lots of battle sounds. It's hilarious and entertaining (and maybe the audio version makes it even more entertaining), yet it also manages to inspire readers to embrace their own imagination. I'm really liking this retelling of Alice in Wonderland that doesn't take itself too seriously. ...more

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Jul 11, 2018 Max Washington rated it really liked it

Another fun book in the Looking Glass Wars series!
Lots of action and humor. Redd is still amusingly insane. Some really nice descriptive sections.
Some emotionally moving sections.
I’m looking forward to seeing what happens next!

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Feb 15, 2019 Lezlie Gits rated it really liked it

Shelves: retelling, young-adult, fantasy, alice-in-wonderland

This Alice in Wonderland retelling is a really fun read. This is the second book in the series, and I'm very much looking forward to reading the final installment. I love the juxtaposition of the deadly serious and the weirdly whimsical throughout the two I've completed. ...more

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Feb 07, 2021 Sharon rated it liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: retellings, bechdel-yea, pre-gr, alt-history, illustrations-and-photos, multiverse, books-about-books, vampires-zombies-n-werewolves-oh-my, dead-moms-club, london-the-heart-of-it-all

I do really love reverse portal fantasy plots.

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Mar 22, 2018 Kathryn Snyder rated it really liked it · review of another edition

There is a lot to love in this book series. This book is not as good as the first book, but it does build Wonderland & Borderland well.

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Jan 14, 2019 Sarah Barr rated it it was ok · review of another edition

Shelves: audiobooks

I really love the universe/worldbuilding but after 2 books still cant bring myself to care about any of the characters.

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Jan 06, 2021 Katy rated it liked it · review of another edition

A fun YA book with just a touch of romance.

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Sep 17, 2018 Sab Cornelius rated it liked it

Re-read!
http://readerdemon.com/seeingredd/ <--- I do book blogging on the side, so posted my full review here. [Site is currently A WIP] ...more

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Dec 26, 2011 Donna rated it it was amazing

Shelves: best-bitten, squeemers, library, fantasy, re-telling, young-adult

How did we end up here?

I read THE LOOKING GLASS WARS, promptly fell in love with it and set myself on buying the next book in the series. That was a bit after I read the book and then SEEING REDD sat on my shelf for a while, getting lost in all of the other books around it. Until recently when I unearthed it and declared that I must read it for the good of my brain! My brain, it’s still thanking me.

Okay, book. You've got 50 pages. Go!

Just fifty? Chomp. Done.

It had been a while since I’ve read ...more

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Sep 14, 2015 Bridget rated it it was ok · review of another edition

This book could have gone one of two ways: 1) it could have improved upon the issues of The Looking Glass Wars and risen to be something really spectacular, or 2) it could have deepened the issues of the first book into something really flat and empty. Guess which route Seeing Redd went down?

The issues I had with this sequel were basically endless. The plot was half baked, the characters were soulless and the writing was painfully mediocre, which led to an emotionless novel that I skim-read for This book could have gone one of two ways: 1) it could have improved upon the issues of The Looking Glass Wars and risen to be something really spectacular, or 2) it could have deepened the issues of the first book into something really flat and empty. Guess which route Seeing Redd went down?

The issues I had with this sequel were basically endless. The plot was half baked, the characters were soulless and the writing was painfully mediocre, which led to an emotionless novel that I skim-read for the last hundred pages.

The thing about Beddor is that he does have good ideas - however, he doesn't seem to be able to do anything with them. While there was a basic premise and some tentative gestures at some character arcs, the ground between points A and B was somehow very vague. I felt like I just got handwaved past the important stuff and directed towards a chain of action sequences that, thanks to the handwaving, didn't feel that urgent. I just wish there had been more to it, because what hints of worldbuilding and such I got seemed pretty complex. It was so frustrating to keep getting interested and then have the scene change before any real exposition happened.

And dear god, the characters. Anyone that I felt even the slightest affection for in book one felt like a cardboard cut out of themselves in Seeing Redd. Which is saying something, because I didn't think The Looking Glass Wars had all that much characterisation to boast about either. All of their emotional progress was cut short by unconvincing dialogue and all of their actions felt wooden. Like, the most defining feature of Molly was her bloody hat, which she didn't even WEAR for most of the novel. The result was that I just couldn't engage with any of them at all, and the less said about Beddor's villains, the better. They were basically a singular stereotypical Bad Guy trope that had been stuffed into a body and made to sing.

What really highlighted all of this was the writing. From the telling not showing, to the in-text sound effects that let Beddor get away without describing key moments of action and emotion (real example: WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMP!!!), this novel just read like it was trying to be a screenplay because the style was so empty.

Overall, I was very disappointed by this book. I'm giving it two stars because it wasn't The Worst Book Ever, but I really don't know if I can be bothered to force myself through the last book in the trilogy. ...more

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Sep 12, 2008 Jennifer Wardrip rated it liked it

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Reviewed by Breanna F. for TeensReadToo.com

SEEING REDD, the second book in THE LOOKING GLASS WARS series, continues off from where the last book ended.

Twenty-year-old Alyss is now queen of Wonderland. Her aunt, Redd, has disappeared into the Heart Crystal along with her sidekick, The Cat, and everything is starting to calm down.

But soon glass eyes start appearing out of nowhere and causing mayhem. Everyone believes that Redd has somehow come back and that they're all doomed. Little do they kno ...more

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Apr 24, 2010 Bry rated it liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: 2010, fantasy, young-adult, adventure, audiobook

Listening to the audiobook on this one and really enjoying the man's voice who is doing the reading. They added in lots of effects for the different characters which is fun, and makes it really easy to distinguish who is speaking.

Well this book was certainly not as good as the first book. It wasn't bad, just a bit disappointing. The entire time I was reading I was like what are these people thinking? Why can't they just talk to one another, be a bit honest. If they would they would have so many ...more

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Jan 10, 2012 Stephanie (ShyNotebooks) rated it it was ok

Shelves: retellings

Sorry to say, this book was far less interesting than the last one. I know, right, what happened?

The pacing was actually slower. I guess. Maybe I was just less interested. In the last book, I was rushing to the end because I wanted Alyss to be reunited with Dodge + Friends. In this book, Alyss was just kind of depressing, and her relationship with Dodge was more of a...competition? Sort of? I'll think of a better word later, but they pretty much sucked romance out of the whole thing. To be hones ...more

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Literary Sleuth and world creator Frank Beddor dared to expose the true story of Wonderland in the New York Times bestselling young adult trilogy The Looking Glass Wars. To satisfy the awakened curiosity of his readers he continued to tell the parallel adventures of Royal Bodyguard Hatter Madigan’s search for the lost princess in the graphic novel series Hatter M. He lives in Los Angeles.