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Up in Honey's Room

(Carl Webster #2)

3.42  ·  Rating details ·  2,596 ratings  ·  316 reviews
Walter Schoen isn't just a Heinrich Himmler look-alike; this Detroit butcher is a dedicated Nazi spy who, when not busy slicing sausage, is avidly assembling Allied production data for his friends in Berlin. Tired of his covert shenanigans, his wife, Honey, divorces him. Looking for a good time, if not more, she lands in the lap of Carl Webster, the "Hot Kid" of the U.S. M ...more
Hardcover, 292 pages
Published May 8th 2007 by William Morrow
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Dan Schwent
Oct 07, 2015 rated it it was ok
Shelves: 2015
Carl Webster comes to Detroit looking for some escaped German POWs. Will Honey, the ex-wife of a friend of the POWs, be his salvation or his downfall?

Yeah, I made the teaser way more exciting than the book. I hesitate to call any Elmore Leonard book bad but this one was definitely on the shitty side of good.

For my money, Elmore Leonard does his best work when pitting guys with various degrees of sleaze against each other in either Miami or Detroit and peppering it with slick dialogue. While this
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Cbj
Sep 11, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"His books don't sound like he had any fun writing them."

One of the characters in Up in Honey's Room muses about the books of Zane Grey. It is a criticism nobody would ever level at Elmore Leonard.

Up in Honey's Room is a  talky and carefully plotted thriller that unravels during the second world war. It is also a sleazy comedy of manners set among the cops, low lives and robbers/nazis of the time.

The characters are developed entirely through dialog and nothing else.

Honey Deal is a delightful
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Zach
Jun 18, 2009 rated it really liked it
For those of you with fondness for Detroit (no that is not a joke!!)

The book is almost worth reading just for Elmore Leonard's descriptions of WWII Detroit, back when there were cornfields up on north Woodward to the zoo on Belle Isle to old the Hudsons Department Store.

(for recommendation of other historic Detroit novels, see end of this review).


For those of you who have yet to acquire a taste for Detroit, the book is typical Elmore Leonard, imaginative characters you can see, interesting di
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Greg Strandberg
Good book with fun characterizations and witty dialogue. I liked it, but I don't remember a whole lot about it. Overall it's a good read, but kind of disposable.

A good airplane book.
Nick Iuppa
Mar 25, 2016 rated it really liked it
Up In Honey’s Room

Elmore Leonard wrote “Up In Honey’s Room” at the age of 82 and wrote three more novels after that… before he died at the age of 87. I think that should give some hope to us Stephen King fans who fear that the master (now merely in his late 60’s) will stop writing any time soon. It doesn’t have to be that way.

To be honest, this is the first Elmore Leonard work I’ve ever read, based largely on Stephen King’s recommendation in “On Writing” that we read Leonard for his spot-on di
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Dave
May 16, 2017 rated it it was amazing
It is a story told
primarily through dialogue and character development. I thought it
was great stuff, but I caution that it is not for everyone. Honey Deal is
the "real doll," a femme fatale that thought it would be interesting to
marry Walter Shoen, a German butcher who sympathizes with the
Nazis. After a year of being bored silly by his German manners, she
walks out on him. Five years later, the war is in full swing and federal
Marshal Carl Webster is hunting two Nazi POWs that escaped from a
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Keith
Oct 22, 2012 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Honey Deal, a Kentucky girl who moved to Detroit during the depression met and married a butcher named Walter, who is himself an immigrant but from somewhat farther away. Walter is German by birth and a doppelganger for Heinrich Himmler—who he believes is his twin brother—and is involved with a German spy ring. After a year of unhappy marriage Honey divorces Walter and tries to move on but then, after being interviewed by the FBI, meets Carl, a U.S Marshall of some notoriety who is in search of ...more
Scott Rhee
Jul 22, 2012 rated it liked it
"Up in Honey's Room" is Elmore Leonard's follow-up novel to "The Hot Kid". U.S. Marshall Carlos "Carl" Webster is a little bit older, but he's still got it. It's 1944 and the Allied Forces are kicking Germany's ass. Carl is state-side rounding up criminals and occasionally AWOL German soldiers who may or not be German spies. Some of them are just soldiers who don't agree with Hitler's National Socialist agenda, and they want out. Then there are the American citizens who agree with Hitler and wan ...more
Jamie
I’ve said before I’d petition Elmore to write about nothing but Kentucky from now on. Except now, I have to petition him to write so much more of our history. (At least the two aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive: Harlan County shows up here with Darcy, one of my favorite parts.)

After The Hot Kid and Comfort To The Enemy, and even Cuba Libre, this is just what I wanted to read. More Carl, Louly, and Virgil, more Jergen and Otto, more hilarious absurdity, more people with all different side
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William
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Elmore skillfully uses stereotype characters to capture what was going on "at home" during WWII. I believe Elmore saw combat in the Pacific Theater as a navy Seebee (combat engineer construction worker). I especially like his main character, Honey Deal, showing how at the time, women were starting show some 'social emancipation'. It's that over the top line "Sieg Hiel, y'all. I'm Honey Deal," that shows some disrespect to the bad guys. This the same tool that late
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Jesse A
Feb 14, 2018 rated it liked it
Doesn't really go anywhere but the dialogue is the show here. No one does it better than EL.
Gary
Mar 21, 2019 rated it really liked it
Remarkable novel. Psychological more than most detective stories, with rounded characters, a sound plot, an anticlimactic ending, great writing.
Andrew
Jun 28, 2009 rated it liked it
I love Elmore Leonard, so I'm a bit bummed that this book wasn't better.

Not that it doesn't contain his usual mix of conniving (but dense) criminals, and steely lawmen with a soft-heart for a damsel in distress, but this time it never really comes together to be anything but exactly the sum of its parts.

The book takes place in Detroit at the end of WWII, with a mix of (non-evil) Nazis, would be Nazis, and just plain criminals that are ripe for the kind of selfish shenanigans that are at the hear
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Barbara H
Jul 22, 2010 rated it really liked it
Recommended to Barbara H by: Merilee Olson
Elmore Leonard's books are always good for their entertainment value.Perhaps some would consider his tales far-fetched, but he has the ability to bring life to his plot and credibility to most situations.

Up in Honey's Room takes place in Detroit during the final year of WW II. Honey had been married for one year to Walter Schoen, who not only resembled Himmler, but considered himself his separated twin due to their shared birthdate and place of birth! She is a bright, funny and attractive woman
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Josh
May 18, 2017 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: crime, own, read_2017
Kinda felt like the book was a series of conversations, bouncing from one to the next until we come to the end set up like a pulp whodunit; key players all in a room, justice ready to be served, case closed. The room? Honey's, the key cog in the book that actually makes it readable. Strange to stay so about an Elmore Leonard but the story of a couple escaped Nazi's from a prison camp being chased down by the Hot Kid was so dull it was hard to keep reading. I am glad I persevered as there are a c ...more
Tim
Feb 09, 2013 rated it did not like it
Hate begets hate. While Elmore Leanard is an outstanding author, he should stay away from writing sympathetic sounding Nazi, KKK novels. I absolutely hated this novel. 0 of 10 stars for not one redeeming moment in this lousy story.
Jeremy
Aug 29, 2015 rated it it was ok
S'okay. Dialogue is good, but the rest is somewhat lacking for me.
Jordan
I really enjoyed the novel's WWII setting, especially the German espionage in Detroit angle. There's a lot of potential there. Walter Schoen, the Nazi subversive who looks just like Heinrich Himmler, made for a believable character, a resentful loner, abandoned by his wife, working a job he feels is beneath him, plotting to undermine his adopted country.

Unfortunately, Walter's machinations take a backseat about halfway through the book, as Vera and Bohdan, bohemian spies from the Ukraine, assum
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Paul Wilner
Aug 29, 2018 rated it really liked it
This is one of Dutch Leonard's wildest plots, but his wit, gift for dialogue, and blinkered look on the world survives intact. Written in his '80s, it has laugh out loud moments, a frisky sense of sexuality, and characters you want to get to know better (one of whom is strongly reminiscent of Raylan Givens, the protagonist of "Justified.''
Philip Girvan
Aug 27, 2018 rated it liked it
Entertaining enough read though doesn’t quite reach the high water mark of The Hot Kid.
wally
Aug 25, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
begins: "honey phoned her sister-in-law muriel, still living in harlan county, kentucky, to tell her she'd left walter schoen, calling him valter, and was on her way to being honey deal again. she said to muriel, "i honestly thought i could turn him around, but the man still acts like a nazi. i couldn't budge him."

leonard employs a tool i've taken to calling "time passages" (check out al stewart's song you get a chance)...characters using their imagination as we all do...and in this one, one of
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Nancy
Aug 06, 2011 rated it really liked it
Shelves: ww2
The varied responses of a group of readers to the same book always interest me, so I was intrigued by the very divergent GoodReads reviews of this book. Many loyal Elmore Leonard fans found it disappointing, but I couldn't get enough of the sassy, sexy Honey Deal and the other characters who populated this WW2 era novel.

There's no doubt that the story didn't really go anywhere, but for me it didn't need to. Leonard crafts his characters so well, with such economy in his language, that I really f
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Ken Doggett
Aug 15, 2015 rated it liked it
I'm a big Elmore Leonard fan but this book just didn't do it for me. The characters were unique, but not as well drawn as in his other stories, and only a couple of them were interesting. The WWII era setting was intriguing, but the book seemed padded with irrelevant dialogue in the early going, and I had a hard time getting into it without getting bored. It picked up later on, but the ending, though interesting, just didn't seem to fit well with the rest of the story.

This may have been just a w
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Maduck831
Nov 29, 2011 rated it it was ok
“She stuck out her right arm in the Nazi salute to show she’d come in peace, with no intent of causing trouble, and said, “Sieg Heil, ya’ll. I’m Honey Deal.” (167) “Honey said, “I did, didn’t I?” and turned to Walter. “But I didn’t mean it, Hun. The point I was making, no, you didn’t have anything to do with the president’s death, how could you?” / “Believe what you want,” Walter said. / The buzzer buzzed.” (268)
Jake
Feb 21, 2012 rated it really liked it
Elmore Leonard's books are so much fun, you can tell he was writing this one with a big smirk on his face. My favorites of his tend to be ones where wacky characters keep gathering together for one explosive encounter ("Tishomingo Blues", "Bandits" and "Riding the Rap"). This is up there with them. I understand why it got such negative reviews, but still, if you're a Leonard fan, you have to read this. Bravo.
Mohammed
May 19, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book was a bit different than the first one in the series The Hot Kid. This time it was more about a cast of different characters than about Carlos Webster. Honey Deal was something special,i adored her. Real fun book,there was some characters you couldnt help but smile,chuckle.

Elmore Leonard still in top form.
Martin
Jan 28, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: elmore-leonard
Installment #2 of The Hot Kid, Carl Webster turned out to be a better novel than the first book The Hot Kid. The story was better than the previous title, but it also dealt with a little different subject matter. In Up In Honey's Room Carl Webster is dispatched from Oklahoma to find an escaped German POW who made his way up to Detroit. For anybody who like Detroit based crime novels, this would be right up their alley. Many locations and streets would be recognized by any Detroit native. As we f ...more
Jonathan Shell
Jun 06, 2018 rated it liked it
*** THIS CONTAINS SPOILERS ***

Up in Honey’s Room is a continuation of the Carl Webster character which Elmore Leonard has previously written about. [The Hot Kid and Comfort to the Enemy]. Up in Honey’s Room brings Carl to Detroit hunting Otto Penzler and Jurgen Schrenk, who are two escaped German POW’s from Oklahoma and who are hiding out in Detroit. Honey Deal is a divorcee from Harlan County Kentucky who married perhaps the most boring man on earth, Walter Schoen, a dead ringer for Heinrich Hi
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Bob Ryan
The second story around the exploits of Carl Webster, the deputy US Marshall, introduced in the "Hot Kid". In this story Carl has left Oklahoma for the wilds of Detroit in search of escaped German prisoners in the ending years of World War II. In Carl's sights is a German whose claim is to be the identical twin of Heinrich Himmler, one of Hitler's top advisors. The true star of the book is Honey Deal, ex-wife of the Himmler twin whose easy views toward men and relationships is a different aspect ...more
Don Friedman
Dec 23, 2017 rated it liked it
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Elmore John Leonard lived in Dallas, Oklahoma City and Memphis before settling in Detroit in 1935. After serving in the navy, he studied English literature at the University of Detroit where he entered a short story competition. His earliest published novels in the 1950s were westerns, but Leonard went on to specialize in crime fiction and suspense thrillers, many of which have been adapted into m ...more

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