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Democracy for Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government

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"Democracy for Realists" assails the romantic folk-theory at the heart of contemporary thinking about democratic politics and government, and offers a provocative alternative view grounded in the actual human nature of democratic citizens.

Christopher Achen and Larry Bartels deploy a wealth of social-scientific evidence, including ingenious original analyses of topics rangi
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Hardcover, 408 pages
Published April 19th 2016 by Princeton University Press
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Nick Geiser
Jan 17, 2017 rated it it was amazing
"Democracy for Realists" is a rich and sobering assessment of the state of democracy. The book is at once a literature review, an empirical contribution, and an agenda proposal for the future study of democracy.

It's structured around critiques of two leading theories of democracy: the "folk" or "populist" theory, and the theory of retrospective accountability. Populists hold that democracy involves political equality and popular control of policy, in which elections translate voters' preference
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Ira
Dec 26, 2016 rated it liked it
On the tube, book open, hardback, head down, three quarters in.
Man interrupts: Sorry I couldn't help noticing what you are reading. It sounds timely! Is it any good?
Me: It's ok, not as Machiavellian as it may sound. The main...
Man interrupts: What's the argument? You must be into it I see you put yellow post-it notes throughout.
Me: The main idea is that democracy as practiced has nothing to do with sovereignty of the p...
Man interrupts: Would you recommend it?
Me: Not the hardback version ...
Man
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Eve
Sep 20, 2016 rated it liked it
THis was a tough read since I'm not a political scientist and I don't understand a lot of the jargon. The overall point was interesting and thought provoking; I think that the intro/conclusion would be worth reading carefully for the non-academics out there and then maybe skim the rest?
I think that the authors outline the problem - too much democracy is not the solution to the problems that ail our democracy - but, as they themselves say, they don't really have solutions. But they do an excellen
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Carl
Jun 03, 2016 rated it liked it
Shelves: politics
How do voters affect the political process? The folk theory says voters are knowledgable about issues & about candidates positions on the issues & they select the candidate who mostly closely reflects their preferences. FALSE! Voters know very little about the issues, are not willing or able to invest the time & study in becoming knowledgeable & besides optimizing a choice of candidate is impossible (Arrow). Voters retrospectively reward good performance & punish malfeasance. ...more
Ruby
Oct 01, 2016 rated it really liked it
"The problem is not that voters are necessarily irrational, but that most voters have very little real information, even about crucially important aspects of national political life."
Jill
Mar 13, 2017 marked it as to-read
Recommended by: The Weeds (podcast) from Vox.
columbialion
Jul 27, 2017 rated it liked it
This book is not recommended for the general or a casual political reader, as it comprises a highly detailed, scholarly statistical analysis of other in depth political works from the mid-1800's to the present, attempting to explain how and why American voters vote in the manner in which they do. The book mostly tries to answer the fundamental question: Do elections result in serving voters needs, or are they simply an exercise of a random process where the input of the votes originate from a la ...more
Nayef Ahmad
Jul 11, 2017 rated it it was amazing
As the internet will tell you, 2016 was a disappointing year for democracy. Brexit, Trump, democratic decline in Poland, Hungary, Turkey, Israel, Venezuela ... Surely something has gone terribly wrong with the way we do democracy? According to the authors of this book, no, it's more like electoral democracy never really worked very well.

If you don't have the time to read the whole book, just read the final chapter (31 pages). In it, the authors summarize decades of research showing that the way
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Saul Shanabrook
Jul 18, 2017 rated it really liked it
To be honest I skipped a bunch of the middle chapters. I was just looking for the answers! Alas, this book doesn't really have many, besides "make society more equal" and "reduce the effect of money on politics".

The book was still immensely helpful, because it shook me of the naive view that we should be giving more power to individual citizens to have a direct impact on the political process.

My initial fears about the book, that two white dudes in Western academia would be constrained in their
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Nathan
Feb 24, 2017 rated it it was amazing
4.5
Daniel Lambauer
Jun 11, 2017 rated it really liked it
this is an extremely well researched with tons of very good data, and despite its academic tone, easy to read analysis of the fundamental issues with modern democracies in an information-heavy age. however, i am not sure if one of their central premises - that party loyalty drives views, and that therefore people get entrenched in their party choices - still holds after the recent european elections in 2017 (eg france, uk). perhaps we can be more hopeful than the authors suggest, at least in eur ...more
Billie Pritchett
Authors Christopher Achen and Larry Bartels are down on democracy in Democracy for Realists. It's an odd book to me because it tends to conflate the way things ought to be with the way things are. Achen and Bartels' thesis is that the way that virtually all so-called democracies work is that people vote on the basis of group loyalties, prior commitments to certain social identities they have, rather than on issues or anything else, and party loyalties shift when groups feel they can court and de ...more
Diego
Oct 18, 2016 rated it really liked it
My intent was to read this and become a better informed citizen and voter prior to the election. It is pretty eye opening. Statistical analysis to show that humans don't know what is going on politically, just believe what's easy, have grown up with beliefs, or base their beliefs from like groups. Majority of people don't seem to be willing to change their beliefs, or be open to it, or they skew facts to align with their personal belief logic.
I would like to say this is a must read for all citiz
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Tonstant Weader
Dec 15, 2016 rated it really liked it
Shelves: politics
Democracy For Realists: Why Elections Do Not Produce Responsive Government takes a long hard look at our cherished notions about democracy and stomps them into ashes. However, as painful as the process is, any long observer of politics and elections will know they are telling us, with substantial evidence to make their case, some very hard truths. For those of us who hope for a more just world, it is time to pay attention.

There is no good news here. The authors Christopher H. Achen and Larry M.
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Spencer
Jun 12, 2017 rated it really liked it
I won't do much to review the book since there are plenty of other good reviews. See the main argument. It's good.

After looking at why the folk idea of democracy, as articulated by Abraham Lincoln in the Gettysburg Address "government of the people, by the people, and for the people," fails in reality (due to a number of reasons but basically people vote their identities rather than for their own interests), they conclude that “At the moment, America is a democracy, but it is not very democrati
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Kristofer
Jun 15, 2017 rated it it was ok
This book was really a 2.5. The authors show various areas where direct democracy breaks down. If you aren't familiar with Arrow's Impossibility Theorem or survey research on partisan bias this book could be interesting for you. If on the other hand you are familiar with those sorts of results then this book doesn't really offer anything new.

Many of the statistics presented in the book are represented has have much more statistical power than they actually do so take the statistical results wit
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JQAdams
Jun 26, 2017 rated it liked it
This is a hard book to review as a whole. Large chunks of it are very academic-y, and feel like the authors had scholarly papers that they couldn't get published elsewhere so they threw in here. (Diminishing returns had set in well before the third chapter on retrospective economic voting, which is the tendency for voters to punish or reward incumbent politicians based on how the economy was doing in the few months before the election regardless of whether the incumbents had any control over or ...more
Paul Skorupskas
Jun 09, 2017 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: 2017
A rather cynical and depressing but thorough and sobering view of democracy. The authors do an excellent job of delivering the hard truths that our society has long ignores or simply tries to wish away.

It reads a lot like an academic text, because it is. However, I found it incredibly interesting. Something that anyone who has ever taken an American civics class should read. Sadly, it is not written in a way that many would find entertaining, especially considering the subject matter. Neverthel
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Ceil
Jun 05, 2017 rated it really liked it
Interesting survey of political science thinking on why the US political system works the way it does - the "realist" approach does have the hallmark of what we lay people often think of as "really? They paid you to discover this?": Rather than making rational choices about party and candidate loyalty -based either on prospective or retrospective assessments of their positions - people first choose the groups they affiliate with, then select the candidates who feel like they best represent those ...more
Tobias
Aug 09, 2017 rated it really liked it
Absolutely devastates what they call "folk" theories of democracy and proposes a new theory based on group identities that certainly feels truer. Some of the middle chapters in which they use quantitative analysis to challenge various theories of democracy are a slog, but the final chapters where they build their own theory makes it worth the slog.
Dustin
Jun 09, 2017 rated it it was amazing
A lot more research is needed, but their argument/conclusions are important. Reminds me of the Churchill quote, "Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
John Martin
Aug 04, 2017 rated it really liked it
It's amazing that this book was published in 2016. We'd like to think that ideas and facts shape voter behavior, but so much of what drives people's political choices has to do with their cultural identities.
Ben Kraft
Jul 26, 2017 rated it it was amazing
Goodreads asks, "What did you think?". Well I'm not sure what I think about democracy anymore, but it was a good book!
Ryan Bertl
Jun 27, 2017 rated it liked it
A good read even if it can be pedantic and dry at times; a revealing look at what actually drives voter behavior.
Jason Furman
Aug 25, 2016 rated it really liked it
Democracy for Realists is a timely book of empirically and theoretically rigorous political science. It's strong suit is criticism--Christopher Achen and Larry Bartels painstakingly amass evidence and arguments against what they describe as the two leading theories of democracy. The first is the "folk theory" that Democracy allows the will of the people to be expressed, something they dismantle with evidence on voters' lack of knowledge in both choosing their representatives and, especially, in ...more
UChicagoLaw
This bracing and generally quite readable book by two political scientists punctures various myths about democracy as manifesting the “will of the people.” Voters, they find, often adjust their views to fit those of the candidate of their party, rather than choosing candidates and parties based on how well they comport with the voters’ own views on policy questions. Most voters are massively ignorant about policy questions, economics events, and even basic questions of cause and effect. Voters a ...more
Hadrian
Scathing analysis of voting habits and patterns, with somber implications for representative government.

Starts with what they call the 'folk theory' of democracy, described in Anthony Down's An Economic Theory of Democracy, which applies rational choice theory to democracy in choosing political representatives. There's also the work of V. O. Key, where voters evaluate political candidates based on economic performance.

Achen and Bartels compile multiple empirical studies which demonstrate the o
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Nate
Nov 26, 2016 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: philosophy, politics
The book's central thesis, that human beings are primarily social animals who engage in politics on the basis of their social identities rather than abstract ideologies about government, is well-defended. The book definitely shifted me towards this point of view (I wasn't vehemently opposed before, but I placed more credence in theories of retrospective voting prior to reading this book).

The book also benefits from having a thesis that is consistent with the rise of Trump without being a retros
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Worth
Oct 27, 2016 rated it really liked it
Should be required reading for any American voter... (Alas, that ain't gonna' happen--which is all too apparent after reading the book.) Among the cures for our would-be democracy, "more democracy" perhaps shouldn't be on the list?!--how do we good enlightened Americans wrap our heads around that bit of wisdom?! The dialectic of "more democracy"..."In the end it is the folk theory [of democracy] that props up elite rule, and it is unrepresentative elites that most profit from the convenient [myt ...more
Richard
May 24, 2016 marked it as to-read
Recommended to Richard by: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/opi...
Sounds deep. See this essay by the authors: Do Sanders Supporters Favor His Policies?
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