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Tim and Pete

3.78  ·  Rating details ·  237 ratings  ·  27 reviews
Baker's groundbreaking novel of simmering rage and justifiable violence follows combative ex-lovers Tim and Pete, thrown together on a bizarre trek from Laguna Beach, Calif., to Los Angeles. Sarcastic, satiric, violent, and exhilarating, "Tim & Pete" is a fiercely imagined, boldly realized vision of the cultural war raging in the hearts of the disenfranchised and in th ...more
Paperback, 256 pages
Published December 3rd 2005 by Alyson Books (first published 1993)
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mark monday
Mar 06, 2012 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: queertime
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that's a pretty good encapsulation of this novel, except throw in some bullshit attempts at being topical and controversial with some callow AIDS & post-L.A. Riots type commentary. yawneroo! please, if you're going to be political, try to be intelligent first. i would rather just jack off to old Marky M
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Blake Fraina
Feb 21, 2010 rated it liked it
This is kind of a schizophrenic book. I tried to enjoy it for the romance between two ex-lovers, a filmmaker and a rock musician, who are thrown together and, over the course of one eventful night in L.A., must come to terms with their lingering feelings for one another. Even though, for me, the fate of this love affair was the most engaging aspect of the book, it's obvious that the late author, James Robert Baker, had another agenda in mind. This very black comedy/satire is primarily concerned ...more
Timothy
Nov 26, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I read this when it first came out, and it so well expressed the hatred I had at that time for what society did to us during the 80s. It wasn't just the right-wingers, it was everyone. President Bush Sr., when asked why the Reagan administration hadn't taken stronger action against AIDS, stated that there was too much of a 'giggle-factor' associated with the disease. And that was one of the nicest things I think I heard from that era. I lived in Southern California in the 80s and my friends were ...more
William
Mar 07, 2011 rated it it was amazing
Possibly a period piece at this point, but one of the best things the late James Robert Baker ever wrote, "Tim and Pete" belongs to the early 90s new queer cultural movement that also produced Gregg Araki's film "The Living End." 24 hours pass in the lives of Tim and Pete, a currently on-the-outs couple (one's a punk rocker; one's a film historian) who somehow become embroiled with a plot to kill the President, various L.A. dissidents, traffic jams, apocalyptic queer terrorists and who might--ju ...more
Jess
Feb 22, 2009 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
This book reads like a guide of how to be a hip Cali queer in the 80s. But beneath the catty calls & pop culture references id a documented account of life where paranoia comes head to head with lust & love.
This book is also hot in a gritty trashy way that i enjoy.
Beatrix M
Jul 12, 2017 rated it it was amazing
Definitely not for the faint of heart, but beautifully written, like a feverish Genet in the last half. A portrait of a moment in time and a political feeling that many have lost.
Gloss
Jan 09, 2009 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: queer
Death and love, and movies and terrorism, AIDS and bigotry. I love this book like *soup*.
Stuart
Jan 03, 2018 rated it really liked it
James Robert Baker's novel was controversial when it came out in the 1990s, but today it reads almost like a sweet little love story about two flawed, angry, petty, volatile, but ultimately human gay men who re-find each other after a year apart attempting to get over a six month love affair that changed their lives. Tim and Pete argue, make out, smoke cigarettes, and reminisce while going on a trek around Los Angeles to find a missing speed junkie from Pete's support group. In the process they ...more
Epiphani
Dec 02, 2018 rated it really liked it
Damn I wish I had been born earlier sometimes. Like while reading this book.
Funny how many times lately I've wondered what the third option is when I don't want to believe violence is the answer to the violence committed against people like in this book, or people like me, and yet being peaceful has not stopped us dying.
This book makes me question that again...as well as the true impact that what an artist creates to express their pain and anger might have on someone who's also angry and hurtin
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Nicolas Chinardet
This book was not quite what I was expecting. This is in fact an AIDS novel with a difference.

While it deals with the emotional hurt experienced by individuals and the repercussions of the disease on relationships, this urban "road-movie" set in the course of 36hrs (with a lot of flashbacks) has another, uncommon angle: that of anger. Anger at the injustice of the disease and anger at the response and lack thereof from right-wing political figures.

I liked how Baker portrayed the way Tim and Pe
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Ren
Mar 26, 2008 rated it it was ok
I had really high hopes for this book and Baker. I had heard about the race and violence controversies (which amount to a bunch of PC bullshit if you've read the book). I had read all this stuff about his work being really 'angry' and 'alternative' perhaps for the time it was what I found was that it was all talk: literally.

The book consists mostly of catty/petty/stupid/pornographic dialogue between Tim and Pete, on and again off again boyfriends who can never quite get a long. I'm not sure if w
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Jody Scott
Aug 18, 2016 rated it it was amazing
I first read Tim and Pete by James Robert Baker shortly after it was first published in 1992. I liked it very much then and I like it perhaps more now on second reading.
I was inspired to reread it because I am rereading all of Jody's novels as I scan them to safeguard from any possible loss (we had a wildfire evacuation here last September and it was scary to think that the bulk of her writing could have been lost forever), and prep manuscripts for upcoming publication. One of Jody's novels re
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Joe
Nov 21, 2007 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Tim and Pete is seriously dated by today's standards and a bit extreme in the message Baker is trying to get across (as a result this novel essentially ended not only his writing career but also his life). I was 23 when this came out (I also "came out" around the same time) and it was very relevant to the gay zeitgeist of the time. I had never read anything like it and it became an instant favorite (and still is).

Upon re-reading it, what I love the most about this novel is the never ending barr
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Sarah Sammis
Aug 05, 2009 rated it it was ok
Tim and Pete by James Robert Baker is a short, angry novel about a pair of opposites who are thrown back together after breaking up. Their whirlwind day together leads to trouble and death.

I wanted to like this book. I should have. It's set in areas I know well and like to read books populated by characters like Tim and Pete. What I mean is, I try to avoid slash fiction; it's not my thing. I want to read books populated by real characters with real problems, quirks, flaws and so forth. I appreci
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Scott
Jun 16, 2013 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: thepinkroom, twisted
The best part of this book was the romance between the title characters. The author excels at portraying a relationship that has ended, but the love between the former lovers refuses to die. The big distraction was the extremist political craziness that is involved as the story progresses. The novel starts really falling apart toward the end, and the ending is really a cop-out.

The novel is definitely gritty in its portrayal of the early 90's gay culture that was devastated by the AIDS virus and
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Travis
Jan 06, 2011 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: 2010, fiction
A year after they broke up, Tim still isn't over his ex-boyfriend Pete. When a date goes wrong and he's left stranded in Laguna Beach with nothing but his swim trunks, sandals, and sunglasses, Tim uses that as an opportunity to look Pete up, hoping that if he can beg a ride home, maybe it will lead to something more. And it does, but not exactly in the way Tim had hoped. [return][return]I loved this so much! Though I will say, it's a story about white gay guys, so watch out for racism, transphob ...more
Freyja Vanadis
Jun 03, 2011 rated it really liked it
Everyone says Pete is passive-aggressive, which he is, but he's the likable one out of Tim and Pete. Tim is pushy, aggressive, obnoxious, and utterly unsufferable. No matter how many times Pete practically begs him to stop or shut up or quit doing what he's doing, he refuses to stop. He's lucky someone doesn't knock him down a peg or two, because he deserves it. Still, this was a good story that told about California gay life in the early 1990s and in reminiscences all the way back to the 1960s.
Richard
Mar 21, 2007 rated it really liked it
This is one of the few books that is gay-themed and obviously targeted at a gay audience that actually has literary merit beyond what it's ostensibly about. And while I generally HATE too many pop cultural references that date a text, these were very skillfully integrated and felt necessary. Hot and pornographic at times, but also very smart.
Brianna
Nov 02, 2007 rated it liked it
Extremist plots aside, what I liked about this book is how much I learned from it regarding what it was like when AIDS first started making headlines.

As horrifying as the disease is today, I cannot imagine living through the sheer terror of those times as a high-risk individual with no information available as to how to decrease your risk.

This book hit it home and hard.
Alvin
Mar 21, 2008 rated it it was amazing
An AIDS Activist classic, funny and bitter and trashy.
TJWphd
May 20, 2012 rated it really liked it
It's been a good five years since I read this, so it's due for a re-read before I comment on it.
Jim
Jul 16, 2008 rated it really liked it
Hot.
Rory
May 16, 2007 rated it it was ok
Recommends it for: Enemies
I wished the main characters would just die. Not much of value in the story for myself--possibly because of how dated and misplaced the storyline felt.
Alec
Sep 23, 2008 rated it it was ok
Very dark book. The characters were not sympathetic at all, though the story did have a certain morbid fascination.
Travis
Nov 24, 2008 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: gay-fiction
An Odyssey through LA's gay community as ex-lovers try to reconcile. It's a fun read even if a little disturbing at times. The characters are a bit overblown but that's typical in gay fiction.
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