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Apologetics: A Justification of Christian Belief

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Renowned theologian John Frame sheds much-needed light on the message and method of genuinely Christian apologetics in this landmark title. He insightfully examines apologetics in terms of proof, defense, and offense and clarifies the relationships of reason, proofs, and evidences to faith, biblical authority, and the lordship of Christ.

Two subjects of particular note are
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Published June 30th 2015 by P & R Publishing
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JR Snow This is an updated edition (20th anniversary) which is expanded by Frame and edited by Joseph Torres. the content has been shuffled, revised, and upda…moreThis is an updated edition (20th anniversary) which is expanded by Frame and edited by Joseph Torres. the content has been shuffled, revised, and updated. There are some additional material about the Problem of evil and evolution that has been inserted from other works by Dr. Frame. (less)

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John
Jun 30, 2015 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2015, apologetics
I've done quite a bit of reading on presuppositional apologetics over the last few years, reading Bahnsen, Frame, and Oliphant. But I'd never read Frame's "Apologetics." In fact, I'd not been aware of its existence until the 2015 revised edition. I naturally picked it up, eager to read another book by Frame on the subject.

I began studying with Bahnsen's "Van Til's Apologetic" and followed that up by Frame's "Cornelius Van Til." So I knew to expect that Frame would be both critical of Van Til, bu
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B.J. Richardson
Mar 21, 2018 rated it it was ok
The Bible is the ultimate standard for truth.
How do we know the Bible is the ultimate standard for truth? Because God says so.
How do we know God says so? Because the Bible tells us He does.

This is the ultimate foundation of what is called presuppositional "apologetics". Frame is one of the leading proponents of this style of "apologetics" and this book is pretty much a university level textbook defining and explaining his view. The fact that I have the word in quotes should make it clear enough
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Ben Zornes
Feb 09, 2018 rated it liked it
Shelves: worldview, theology
John Frame provides a useful gateway into the world of presuppositional apologetics. Building on such Christian thinkers like Van Til, he endeavors to show why Christian apologetics needs to operate with certain assumptions in place. In essence, we must avoid the temptation to think of reason as able to "stand on its own." All arguments for, or against, Christianity must use reason and logic (some arguments are stronger or more compelling), but for the Christian apologist we must not lean upon l ...more
Luke
Jun 06, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2019
There are few books that as soon as I complete them I feel like I should or want to read again. This may in fact be the first. After finishing the book I feel like I have a sufficient basis to read it the first time. I would suspect that this would be the case with many. There were portions that I slogged through, I found benefit from it all. Take my rating as tentative, and from an unqualified reviewer though I have attempted to carefully read the book and process the thought.

One insight I wou
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Thaddeus
May 27, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Dr. John M Frame's book Apologetics: A Justification of Christian Belief has long been regarded as one of the gold standards for textbooks in Apologetics by many as the glowing recommendations on this book by John Piper, Al Mohler and James N. Anderson clearly show. So, I had been excited to get into it myself, having read quite a bit of Cornelius Van Til and Greg Bahnsen's work - John Frame stands in that same line of Westminster Presuppositional Apologetics. However, he doesn't merely recite w ...more
Daniel
Sep 29, 2017 rated it really liked it
A very comprehensive case for the presuppositional approach to apologetics.
Megan
Apr 20, 2020 rated it it was amazing
This is my favorite book on apologetics so far! It was readable and clear, but didn’t shy away from the difficult arguments that need to be made. I would recommend it as an introduction to reformed apologetics, or a precursor to reading Van Til.
Jonathan Roberts
Aug 25, 2015 rated it it was amazing
Four and a half stars! While I know John Frame is smart sometimes he is too smart for me! This book most of the time was accessible to my feeble brain, but also at times I was left wondering how a person as dumb as me could ever be a teacher. This book lays out an understanding of the presuppositional apologetic method and does it very well. I really enjoyed the final chapter where Dr. Frame created a dialogue between two people on a plane. That was incredibly useful. Highly recommended!
Jeremy
Frame interviewed about this book here. ...more
John
Jan 27, 2018 rated it it was amazing
John M. Frame is a household name in the Reformed Tradition and has been at the forefront of Reformed theology for several decades. Frame is J. D. Trimble Professor of Systematic Theology and Philosophy at Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, Florida, and the author of the magisterial four-volume Theology of Lordship series and A History of Western Philosophy and Theology. Still, one of Frame's most influential and widely used books remains Apologetics to the Glory of God. Now, extensively ...more
Mike Felker
Mar 15, 2020 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
What Frame has accomplished in this updated volume is a helpful bridge between presuppositional and classical/evidentialist apologetics. Much of this bridge is the implementation of evidences in presuppositional apologetics. While it is commonly argued that presuppositionalist can't or won't use evidences, Frame shows that even within a presuppositionalist framework, evidences can have a proper place. This is why I would hesitate to place Frame neatly within the presuppositionalist camp. Those w ...more
Tyler Brown
Sep 25, 2019 rated it really liked it
There is much I appreciate about this volume. Frame make a great case for a qualified presuppositional approach to apologetics. His deep knowledge of Van Till helps him carefully point out where he is lock-step with VT, where he thinks VT was inconsistent or unclear, and where he openly differs from him. This book is not so technical with philosophical thinkers and references that it can't be read by a lay-person, but it comes pretty close.
My only criticisms are 1) some of Frame's critiques of
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Keith Pinckney
Apr 04, 2020 rated it really liked it
A classic work by Frame. Excellent in parts, lagged in others. Dense in parts, crystal clear in others. Enjoyed it overall, think he could have made it 60 pages shorter (Including the appendix). I am grateful for Frame’s work here and appreciate him being a cross-disciplinarian (Philosopher, Apologist, Theologian). Strongest part of his book was the front half.
Deborah
May 25, 2020 rated it liked it
It is substantially a comprehensive understanding of presuppositional apologetics refining and refuting its original proponent – Van Til. The author advances his own framework which, for me, taints the methodology. Sir Frame is indeed an intellectual. However, I am still not convinced of the said methodology.
Dan
Apr 17, 2020 rated it it was amazing
Best book on Christian apologetics I've read. Addresses apologetics as proof, defense, and offense. Really like the emphasis on presupositions of worldviews as the basis of interpreting facts. The transcendental argument for the existence of God is pretty powerful logically and rhetorically. ...more
George
Jan 29, 2018 rated it it was amazing
This revised version of Frame's "Apologetics to the Glory of God" is truly a gem to be cherished in any Christian's library. In it, Frame succinctly shows how to make a case for the Christian worldview using Van Til's apologetic methodology (albeit in a revised way). ...more
Josh
Jun 01, 2018 rated it really liked it
Shelves: philosophy, theology
Very helpful, like all of Frame’s major works. He interacts clearly and charitably with other schools of apologetics, and also gives an excellent primer on the theology and methodology of presuppositional apologetics.
Jelmer
Nov 12, 2018 rated it did not like it
Worst book on apologetics I've ever read. Would not recommend. Only finished it because I needed to read it for school but will suggest scrapping it from the curriculum. ...more
Sean McGowan
Jul 14, 2018 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: apologetics
Very good book. Classic Frame. His discussion on the classic "problem of evil" here and in his Doctrine of God is one of the best treatments of the subject. Very helpful. ...more
Laurent Dv
Sep 19, 2017 rated it it was amazing
The most comprehensive work on apologetics (especially presuppositionalism, method, evidence, theistic proofs from a van tilian perspective). Very accessible.
Carl Di-Palma
Apr 30, 2018 rated it liked it
helpful in places, frustrating and a hard slog in others.
Pastor Matt
Nov 17, 2019 rated it it was amazing
Professor Frame makes a compelling case but I have a lot of questions...
Chris Wray
Jul 02, 2017 rated it it was amazing
This book has had a huge impact on my thinking, and has shaped how I approach topics of apologetics, worldview and knowledge with both Christians and non-Christians. To my mind the two most important points that Frame makes are:

1. Everyone has presuppositions: We all have core beliefs or prior commitments that we cannot detach ourselves from and that we use to judge the truth or goodness of everything else. For the Christian, these are the truth of Scripture and the Lordship of Jesus Christ.
2.
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Chris
Dec 22, 2015 rated it really liked it
John Frame has been a strong proponent to the presuppositional apologetics. The new edition of the book hopes to make presuppositional apologetics easier to christian to understand and to pick up.

Frame attempts in his first chapter to explain and make a case for presuppositional apologetics. He answers very clearly some of the common questions raised against presuppositional apologetics but also how we are to understand the terms thrown away by the critics. Frame hopes that by doing so, he would
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David Velasquez
Oct 18, 2016 rated it it was amazing
I first discovered presuppositional apologetics when I was preparing a series of sermons on the reason for God. My first encounter was with Greg Bahnsen. What especially impacted me was listening to his famous debate with Gordon Stein.

Through reading Greg Bahnsen I learned about John Frame. I'm glad that I was finally able to read his apologetic masterpiece. What I love about his apologetic approach (Presuppositionalism) is that it starts with a proper theology which then informs the methodolog
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James Bunyan
Nov 09, 2015 rated it really liked it
Mammoth but really helpful when it comes to explaining and persuading of the pre-suppositional approach to apologetic reasoning.
Some helpful implications for my speaking:
-don't be scared of circular reasoning- it is not bankrupt!
-appeal to the truth that people know deep inside
-present Christianity as a comprehensive worldview
-at the root of the universe is an absolute, trinitarian personality

Chapter breakdown:
1. Apologetics: the basics
2. The Message of the Apologist
3. Apologetics as Proof: Some
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Eddie Mercado
Aug 28, 2015 rated it it was amazing
John Frame's work on Apologetics (an expansion and update to Frame's Apologetics to the Glory of God) is a welcome addition to the formulation of Presuppositional (or Covenantal) apologetics! While Frame does depart from Van Til in certain areas (the biggest, I believe, regarding certainty of the Presuppositional argument), Frame is Van Tillian through and through. I did not agree with some of his departures, but they always caused me to think, and Frame was also charitable, which is really what ...more
Hank Pharis
Sep 05, 2015 rated it really liked it
Since I'm teaching a college course on apologetics this is one of half a dozen or so books that i have read recently on apologetics. In many ways this has been the best. It is more about the theory or philosophy behind defending the faith than about its practice. But it offers a crucial balance to the majority approach of depending on evidences and arguments and human persuasion. All of these things are great helps but they must be understood and practiced within a recognition of the true nature ...more
Craig
Oct 24, 2016 rated it really liked it
Shelves: seminary
Read for Apologetics class.
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For his education, Frame received degrees from Princeton University (A.B.), Westminster Theological Seminary (B.D.), Yale University (A.M. and M.Phil., though he was working on a doctorate and admits his own failure to complete his dissertation), and Belhaven College (D.D.). He has served on the faculty of Westminster Theological Seminary and was a founding faculty member of their California campu ...more

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“If we can agree that the sky is blue, for example, how is it that such agreement is possible? If the world is a world of chance, how could anybody agree on anything? Agreement presupposes a world made by God, designed to be orderly and designed to be known by rational minds. You can see that this kind of argument is presuppositional. It’s appealing to the true knowledge of God that the unbeliever has but suppresses (Rom. 1)—a knowledge that he has in common with the believer. To argue this way is very different from saying, “Let’s assume that the Bible can be false, and let’s judge its truth on the higher authority of our senses and logic.” Now” 2 likes
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