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The Holy Sinner

3.91  ·  Rating details ·  904 Ratings  ·  63 Reviews
THE BOOK: An epic arch sinfulness, The Holy Sinner is one of Thomas Mann's great works. From the incestuous union of the two beautiful children of the Duke Grimald of Flanders a boy is born. Left to die at sea, the child is eventually rescued & brought up in holiness on the channel islands. Only after marrying his mother does the child come to realise the unwitting - a ...more
Paperback, 240 pages
Published May 26th 1997 by Vintage Classics (first published 1951)
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Helen Ροζουλί Εωσφόρος   Vernus Portitor Arcanus Ταμετούρο   Αμούν Arnum
Περί της θαυμαστής Χάριτος του Θεού και της Γεννήσεως του μακαριστού Πάπα Γρηγορίου της πέτρας..ή απλώς,Η ιστορία του καλού αμαρτωλού.

Ο "Εκλεκτός" είναι η μυθοπλασία ενός νόθου παιδιού μοιραίας αιμομιξίας. Καρπός διπλής φρικωδίας που καλείται να εκπληρώσει αναπόδραστα τη Θεϊκή προφητεία.

Το"μπασταρδάκι" του Μαν έχει καταγωγή απο την αρχαιότητα. Είναι παρακλάδι των Οιδιπόδειων μύθων και των ηθελημένων αιμομικτικών αμαρτιών μεταξύ αδελφού και αδελφής-μητέρας και γιού.

Βασισμένος στον αδελφικό έρωτα
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Nataša
Feb 01, 2018 rated it really liked it
Kao što rekoh već, dopada mi se. Pojedini delovi naročito. Rečenice pisane u imperfektu ponajviše :)
Pripovedač Kliment Irac mi je sa svojim monolozima prirastao srcu. I čini mi se da imamo sličan smisao za humor :)

Kim Jones
Aug 04, 2012 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
Magical narration of a story that has no duplicate.

Thomas Mann must have had one of the most amazing story-telling abilities of all times. He knows exactly how to keep the reader in insane excitement, constantly feeding them with new, challenging conflict, alternating your emotions between the wish to discover the resolution, and awe of its unexpected revelation.

From the cover, I had never suspected the books placement in time, but I was pleasantly surprised. I must say, this novel had fell into
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Razvan Zamfirescu
Unul dintre motivele pentru care mi-aș dori să știu germană este să pot citi marii scriitori germani în limba lor natală.
Este un deliciu să te înfrupți din proza lui Thomas Mann. Or, chiar dacă mâncarea este reîncălzită, Corneliu Papadopol profită la maximum de calitatea ingredientelor și a rețetei secrete care i-a adus autorului Premiul Nobel pentru Literatură și ne servește, cu ajutorul editurii Humanitas, o traducere a unui roman foarte plăcut.
Alesul lui Thomas Mann este o reintepretare, ca s
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Paul Ispas
Mar 11, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
Prima întâlnire cu Thomas Mann și am ales fix ”Alesul” sau ”Păcătosul Sfânt” cum au ales englezii să intituleze lucrarea. Neavând nicio tangență cu povestea originală, am trecut prin diverse stări, de la amuzament, semne de întrebare, oripilare, speranță la dezamăgirea previzibilului și șocul plăcut al poveței finale. Mann, ne vom mai întâlni!
Bryan
I'm not sure exactly what Mann was going for here, at least beyond the obvious. I'm going to avoid talking about the story, because I just don't think I can do it and avoid spoilers, but I will say there is an overwhelming catholic atmosphere to the book and anyone who is opposed to religious-themed books will probably want to avoid this.

I don't mind religion in my books--it's an integral part of life, one way or the other--but if it holds center-stage, I'd like at least to be challenged. Some
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sabisteb
Mar 19, 2011 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: hörbücher
Lange vor Rufus Beck und CO war Gert Westphal der König der Vorleser. Er hat die meisten Klassiker gelesen und gab genau wie Rufus Beck jeder Person eine eigene distinkte Stimme.
Den Erwählten zu lesen wäre nicht so mein Ding gewesen, aber gelesen von Gert Westphal ist dieses Buch einfach wunderbar. Eine Ödipusgeschichte von Thomas Mann, spannend erzählt und tiefgründig.
Absolut empfehlenswert, wenn man mal Klassiker nachholen will. Gert Westphal ist immer eine gute Wahl. Schade, dass er schon tot
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Katie
Jul 24, 2008 rated it it was amazing
This is a wonderful book of story-telling in lyric, medieval prose. I loved it for its enchanting, rhythmic lilt and its redemption theme.
Paul Johnston
Jun 16, 2017 rated it really liked it
This is a really surprising book - and it seems to rather divide people. I have read it a number of times and have always seen it as an extremely arch joke. Mann who is both incredibly sophisticated and incredibly modern takes on the persona of a prudish and credulous medieval monk and with that strange voice (and in a jumbled-up mix of high and low language or languages) tells the most ludicrous tale imaginable. It is outrageous - a constant stream of knowing jokes at the expense of these medie ...more
una_sussa
Oct 21, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
L'Eletto è la rielaborazione della leggenda medievale di papa Gregorio che convola a nozze e genera prole con una donna che non sa essere sua madre: una vicenda che tratta il concetto di diversità, colpa e espiazione rese meno drammatiche dall'elegante, piacevolissima ironia di Mann.

"Così da ciò che è orribile e nefando può nascere ciò che è perfetto, come pur debbo riconoscere in questa mia claustrale maledizione. In verità, a rappresentarsi le coniugali gioie di Gregorio l'anima mia riesce so
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Francesco Fantuzzi

O felix culpa
quae talem ac tantum meruit habere Redemptorem!



Scelta calzante della germanista Lea Ritter Santini, curatrice dell’introduzione al romanzo, è quella di anteporre tale epigrafe nel presentare L’eletto di Thomas Mann. Le parole del preconio della liturgia romana della veglia pasquale alludono alla colpa del padre Adamo e della madre Eva, gravissima in sé, ma indispensabile per sperimentare la Grazia e la Misericordia del Padre. Attorno a questo concetto chiave si sviluppa tutta la

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Tony
Jul 05, 2016 rated it liked it
THE HOLY SINNER. (1951). Thomas Mann. ***.
I have no idea of how many stars this work deserves; I have no point of reference. According to Mann’s postscript, the story is based in the main on the verse epos Gregorius Vom Stein by the Middle High German poet Hartmann von Aue (c. 1165-1210) who took his legend of chivalry from the French. How much of Mann’s work is derivative, I don’t know. I do know that it is unlike anything else that Mann ever wrote. The basic story is about the incestuous relat
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Fırat Ender Koçyiğit
Thomas Mann üstadın belki en güzel eseri. Özellikle cennet vatanımızda "Venedik'te Ölüm" ya da "Buddenbrooklar" kadar tanınırlığı yok ne yazık ki. Saklı bir define gibi kitapçılarda eski baskılarıyla bekleyen bu hacmi küçük ama etkisi büyük romanda gerçek bir olaydan yola çıkan Thomas Mann'ın o kendisine has lirik/dinî dokusuyla ilmek ilmek işlediği enfes bir aşk ve kader öyküsü bulacaksınız.
Vik Berbé
Een Oedipus story, zo geestig clericaal verhaald dat ik het ondanks dat of dankzij dat graag uitgelezen heb.
Costacoralito
Mar 09, 2010 rated it it was amazing
Very well written book that takes you on a wonderful trip that ends up with an epiphany at the end when you realize what the story really is about. On my top 20 book list.
Saide Kurt
Feb 28, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Andriy Hulkevych
Mar 24, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Такий собі середьовічний роман з вигаданими персонажами. Протагоніст Грігорс, дитина народжена в інцесті, є спадкоємцем герцогського титулу, однак про це йому невідомо, оскільки його немовлям було викинуто в діжців море. На щастя, його врятували англійці та виростили. Коли йому виповнилося сімнадцять, він покидає дім та вертається у рідне герцогство, де перемагає ворогів своєї держави та стає герцогом. Проте однією з умов миру стає одруження на герцогині - на його справжній матері, котра впізнал ...more
Elena Tamborrino
Una sorpresa affascinante questo romanzo di Thomas Mann, scritto nel 1951, pochi anni prima della morte dello scrittore premio Nobel per la Letteratura nel 1929. Si tratta di un romanzo che prende origine da una leggenda su Gregorio Magno, che lo vuole figlio e marito allo stesso tempo di una principessa delle Fiandre; lo stile richiama la narrazione medievale, il romanzo epico e la saga leggendaria a cui grande contributo dà la tradizione di Bruno Arzeni. La lettura è fluida e coinvolgente, i c ...more
cris
Dec 03, 2017 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Está claro que Thomas Mann escribe de una forma única pero el libro a ratos es muy pesado y lioso. No me arrepiento de haberlo leído pero sí de que este sea el primer libro suyo que leo, ya que me ha quedado la impresión de que Thomas Mann escribe de una forma aburrida (aunque solo a ratos).
Yvonne
Aug 26, 2017 rated it it was amazing
I didn't know that Thomas Mann wrote a novel based on Hartmann von Aue's medieval verse epic Gregorius. His style is amazing as usual ... and he also had a great sense of humour which shines through all the time :).
Sinem
Oct 24, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
ulaşmak için çok çabaladığım bir kitap olmuştu. odipus kompleksi, narsisizm barındıran soyluluk sevdası, ensest ögeleri Orta Çağ dekorunda muntazam işlemiş. Mitolojik bir destana benziyor
Christoph Dettling
Jan 03, 2017 rated it it was amazing
An incredible text that left a profound mark on me and resulted in a lifelong love of German literature.
Laura Caltea
Mar 10, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Vechi teme mitologice (incestul, gemenii, nașterea excepțională a eroului), biblice (alesul, îngerul vestitor), curtenești (cavalerul luptând pentru salvarea inaccesibilei doamne iubite, ritualuri ale corteziei), se amestecă în această poveste a păcătosului cel bun care pare a fi o bună ilustrare a celebrei butade aparținând lui Oscar Wilde: „Orice sfânt are un trecut, orice păcătos are un viitor”. Un roman despre păcat și mântuire, despre iubire și vinovăție, despre destin și alegere, un roman ...more
Ece
Aug 09, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
İkiz kardeşlerin günah meyvesi, bir fıçının içinde denize bırakılır. Çocuk günün birinde annesini babasını aramaya koyulur. Ne bilsin ki o Tanrı tarafından seçilmiştir ve arama sürecinde annesiyle -ya da halası mı desek- evlenir ve çocukları -yani kardeşleri mi yoksa yeğenleri mi desek- olur.. Bu büyük günah affedilir mi? Kefareti nasıl ödenir? Öykü ruhu bedenize girmeyi bekliyor. "Oysa, içinde bu ruhun yeniden doğabileceği kadar değerli bir bedenim yok. ... beden, etten ve kemikten yapılma ve t ...more
David
Jul 13, 2013 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Thomas Mann's Holy Sinner is the ecclesiastical version of Twain's Prince and the Pauper. The fable is loosely historical fiction based on the times of the early popes. The pope in this story could be either based on Evaristis or Alexander I because of his contact with the emperor Trajan. His use of holy water to bless houses of worship points more to Alexander I since he is recorded as the one who introduced this practice.

Mann tells the story through the monk, Clemens. I like what Mann does...t
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Edward Jawer
Thomas Mann's extraordinary contribution to great literature has at times been interrupted by the strangest of fairy tales. This one is about the making of a great Pope (Gregory).

In the latter middle ages, a great lord's two children commit incest, and create a child who is then put into a small crib size boat, and put out to sea. He survives, grows to become a great warrior, returns to his ancestral home, and without either of them realizing, marries the Queen (his Mother).

When they stumble up
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Vasco Ribeiro
História de incesto, pecado e redenção. na alta idade média contada por um monge , Clemente, que conta a história de dois gémeos filhos de um duque, que pecam e têm um filho. o irmão vai para a terra santa e morre. ela fica e promete nunca casar. mas 17 anos depois surge um cavaleiro para a salvar de um pretendente, que afinal é o seu filho. ignorando isso, casam têm duas filhas. descobrem o parentesco, ele vai para um penedo, ela funda um albergue para peregrinos. 17 anos depois, milagrosamente ...more
Stefano Restelli
Jan 10, 2017 rated it really liked it
Shelves: german-classics
"Mi accingo a narrare una storia orribile e nello stesso tempo altamente edificante".
Così esordisce Thomas Mann nella sua rielaborazione di una leggenda medievale sulla vita di Gregorio Magno.
L'opera, quasi ironicamente, ruota intorno ad assurdi rapporti incestuosi nella vita di Gregorio, che creano grottesco stupore nel lettore. Ciò nonostante, come indica appunto lo scrittore nel suo incipit, la figura di Gregorio viene consegnata al pubblico in tutta la sua magnificenza spirituale che si in
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Cevat Sucu
Jun 04, 2011 rated it liked it
The book is based on the Medieval legend of Saint Gregory. Book is interesting because it reconstructs the legend, and it reveals us that one of the main problematics of the Christianity is held in this legend by folk culture so by Mann. "Being chosen" by the God, like the parody of Jesus." The last speech of the narrator puts the problematic very obviously. There is very weird common motives with the Ancient legends' like Oedipus, and Mann narrates some event in the tragedy technique especially ...more
Tom Ireland
Apr 21, 2011 rated it it was ok
I got my copy of Thomas Mann's The Holy Sinner for £1 when I was in Hay-on-Wye. And, frankly, I wouldn't want to pay any more for it. The book is well-written and undeniably an interesting tale but for me it just fell a little flat. It failed to touch anything in me and it won't stay with me. I enjoyed it at the time but will soon forget it.

Read the rest of my review here:

http://readinandritin.blogspot.com/2011/05/review-holy-sinner.html
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