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Gatefather (Mither Mages #3)

3.36  ·  Rating details ·  4,711 Ratings  ·  503 Reviews
The much-anticipated third installment in Card's New York Times bestselling Mithermages series

Danny North is the first Gate Mage to be born on Earth in nearly 2000 years, or at least the first to survive to claim his power. Families of Westil in exile on Earth have had a treaty that required the death of any suspected Gate Mage. The wars between the Families had been terri
Hardcover, 384 pages
Published October 20th 2015 by Tor Books (first published September 22nd 2015)
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mjg My guess is that if the reviews came before the release (10/20/2015) then they were advance reader copies.

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My guess is that if the reviews came before the release (10/20/2015) then they were advance reader copies.

They wouldn't be leaked copies... No, certainly not on the Internet. Such blatant piracy surely can't happen. (less)

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Matt Picchietti
Sep 16, 2015 rated it liked it
Meh. I loved book 1, liked book 2, and had to just push through book 3....but that's how all of OSC's series read to me. I loved Ender, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead...the rest, meh. I loved the first two of the Pathfinder series...the rest, meh.

If you've been through the first 2 of these, you might as well finish the story.

To be fair, Ender put the expectations for Card on a home run level, and I know that everything can't be that good. Still, the Mither Mage series was set up so wel
Aug 30, 2017 rated it it was ok
I wanted to like this more. I'm not saying I didn't like it because I actually did.

I just wanted to like it more.

So what was good?

The ideas! The direction the magic took was rather cool and I would have loved to play in this world for a lot longer, but the focus came down rather heavily upon individual choices and Danny's godlike power. Not that this couldn't be a good thing, mind you, even in the face of a setup that could bring down war between worlds and numerous new uber-powers laying wast
Oct 26, 2015 added it
Shelves: didn-t-finish
I am hereby refusing to finish books that I do not like.

And I do NOT like this book. I LOVED the first in this series, and had very lukewarm feelings for the second, and this one just continues the trend, by being so awful I couldn't get 50 pages in.

Orson Scott Card has made no secret of being a homophobic misogynist, but normally I can gloss over the bits where his politics bleed into his writing. This is not the case with this series.

Danny has amazing gate making ability and apparently that
Mukta Mohapatra
Jun 17, 2015 rated it it was ok
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Brian Begley
Nov 06, 2015 rated it did not like it
Genuinely depressing. The second straight time I've had to fight to finish an awful series from a writer that I've loved (Pathfinder series is even worse). I have read every novel and short story that Card has published. The sharp decline in quality over the last several years is unbelievable. I don't know if he's stopped listening to editors, or was forced for contractual reasons to publish something that wasn't ready, or is simply no longer capable of telling a coherent story.

The characters a
Nov 02, 2015 rated it it was ok
I enjoyed the first two books and was really looking forward to this one. The families all got their superpowers, Danny got possessed and gives his gates to Wad, Bexoi gets possessed...I was looking forward to some real action.

And what a disappointment! The pace of the story is terribly slow. The formula OSC follows seems to be this: OSC writes extensively about technical aspects/rules of the magical framework of the Mithermages world (sometimes in dialogue format, and other times in an internal
Mar 01, 2016 rated it did not like it
Shelves: please-sir-2016
I wanted to like it, I liked the others in the series but there were too many parts of the book that drove me nuts. There were these long pointless conversations between some of the characters that really stalled the story and made it much longer than it needed to be, and bored me to tears.
The Behrg
Jan 10, 2016 rated it it was ok
Having grown up on OSC, I've been surprised by the last few novels of his that I've read.

For those who don't know much about the Mither Mage series, this is the third and final book in a trilogy about brilliant kids, (it is an OSC novel afterall), Norse gods living on earth, magery, including some innovative ideas about transporting oneself or others through "gates" as well as elemental magic, a separate world called Westil which is connected to this world through gates, politics (again it's OS
Dec 09, 2016 rated it did not like it
Shelves: fantasy
Well, this is a sad day for me. This book sealed the deal. I will no longer be reading any new series by Orson Scott Card. I could barely endure the last book of his Pathfinder series (that one put me off from buying his books) & this one was just slightly better in that I could follow the plot. You have to understand that Card's book Ender's Game was my all-time favorite book for *years.* But now, his books are filled with characters that all sound the same, are unlikable know-it-all adoles ...more
Travis Bow
Nov 06, 2015 rated it liked it
I loved books 1 and 2 so much that my expectations for book 3 were maybe a little too high.

It was pretty good - lots of good dialogue, smart and realistic characters, and a semi-believable conclusion to a story that seemed hopeless at the end of book 2. But there was a lot of weirdness to it, even for me: ka, ba, inself, outself, prets... like 1/3 of the book was devoted to developing a new explanation of how your true self is made of particles from another world and you can manipulate them to
Sep 30, 2015 rated it liked it
WARNING: DIATRIBE AHEAD. One of my greatest delights about reading is that unlike television and movies, books remain fairly free of product placement and commercial endorsements. Imagine my surprise when over 2/3 of the way through this timeless book I found an entire page devoted to the relatively new television series, Scorpion. Why? Why disrupt the story needlessly with this page of speculation about who is most like which character? I’m so disappointed to find this odd passage inserted into ...more
Ben DeWitt
Oct 22, 2015 rated it liked it
Gatefather was everything I expected from a conclusion to the Mither Mages series. Some smaller characters get expanded into full-blown characters, all of the dangling plot threads are wrapped up, smart kids say smart things and solve problems in smart ways-par for the course in an OSC novel. I did feel like a certain plot development completely re-shuffles the rules of the game and it didn't seem telegraphed, established, or earned. I'd like for the solutions to come from established powers, ab ...more
Jan 02, 2016 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I hate this book with the burning passion of a thousand suns. I'd give the entire series two stars but this one only gets one.

Ender's Game is one of my favorite books ever...probably in my top 3. So of course I've thought I should check out more of Card's books. But they've all been a disappointment.

Card doesn't know how to end a story. Ender's Game was phenomonal...but then he dragged it out with book after book and each one was worse than the one before until I just quit reading in the middle
Hank Hoeft
Jun 21, 2016 rated it liked it
Orson Scott Card is an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and as such, all his writing is suffused with his faith. In some stories—his Tales of Alvin Maker series, the Memory of Earth series—this influence is more obvious and direct than in others, but all his stories reflect his LDS beliefs to some degree.

Gatefather is the third book in the Mithermages series. As such, it wraps up the story threads of the first two books nicely, but some readers might find it uns
Jan 22, 2016 rated it it was ok
Shelves: fantasy
I think this is the lowest score I have ever given to OSC. in the reading book one I thought this would be a good series, but it has steadily declined through book two and then to three. The book dragged on, with endless discussions. So much more could have been done if the characters were given more to work with.
Ian Miller
Oct 20, 2015 rated it really liked it
A fun conclusion to a very enjoyable series. Blending the postmodern mythology of American Gods, the superhero antics of Jumper, and the pure Orson Scott Card metaphysics and noble central figure, it weaves all the threats of the previous two novels together.
Oct 25, 2015 rated it did not like it
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Jolene Veenstra
Jun 29, 2015 rated it really liked it
What a fun series this is!
Nov 17, 2017 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
This is one of the worst books I've ever read. I'm so disappointed with the turn this series took, and the disgusting changes made to the female characters. The 3 girls went from being badass teenagers, following around this demigod, and doing amazing things, to an entire chapter talking about how they want to have sex with him and have his babies. The smartest one of the bunch even admits to herself she would give up everything to have his child. This isn't how teenage girls think! This isn't h ...more
Jan 26, 2016 rated it it was ok
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Brian Palmer
Mar 28, 2016 rated it did not like it
Shelves: 2016, fantasy
When reading, I sometimes find there's a bit where authors write something and I just nod and kind of tune out until they're done with their religious revelation? Think to the big speech in The Fountainhead, or the ending of the movie Interstellar, or parts of Crime & Punishment. Or, heck, a lot of fantasy novels' dei ex machina endings.

Unfortunately, this book has them, and not just at the end. They're a constant interruption to the storyline -- they started very early on (I'm most of the
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Mar 15, 2016 rated it really liked it
This was the best book in the series. I loved the second book because it shocked me and gave struggles we weren't sure how the characters would overcome. This one went even further, but it took those things I was horrified by and gave them context and a human, relatable element. The ending was utterly satisfying to me. I was worried this would be one of those, "It ends like that?!" books, but I was very happy with all the resolutions.

There were some scenes where I wondered why the conversations
Brayton Cole
Jun 29, 2017 rated it did not like it
Card had a fascinating magical system set up in the first book. He started to drift away from it in the second book. In the third he basically ignored it, and the established conflicts of the series, to rehash fantasy conceits he already did to death in previous, unrelated works. If you've read Treasure Box, Magic Street, and the later Ender books (Xenocide and CotM), just mash their weird ideas about demonic possession and soul-procession together and you've got Gatefather. It's frankly bafflin ...more
Vaughn Ohlman
Nov 20, 2015 rated it it was ok
After waiting eagerly for this book, putting my name in line for the library copy even before it was printed, and then making a special trip to the library to get it... I was disappointed.
This book is pretty much everything it shouldn't have been. Card is a great writer. I love reading Orson Scott Card. This is a great series. The first book was best, but the second one was OK, and left me waiting for this one.
But this book was a serious disappointment. It built upon nothing, developed nothing,
Sarah F.
Nov 13, 2015 rated it did not like it
This was, without a doubt, the worst book I've read this year. I really liked the first book in the series. When I read the second one, I though, "Wow, these are awful characters." And this third one... I feel like Orson Scott Card has just stopped caring altogether. This is essentially just an amalgamation of a terrible story line, obnoxious and meaningless characters, and way, way, WAY too much really confusing mythology legends that get wayyyy over explained and added to throughout the entire ...more
Bjarke Sølverbæk
Jul 16, 2017 rated it it was ok
Shelves: audio-en
Det var også den tredje bog i Enders Shadow-serien, hvor kæden sprang af for mig, selvom både etteren og toeren var gode. I Mithermages-serien var den første bog en fantastisk indgang til et spændende univers og toeren var en udmærket fortsættelse. Til gengæld er den tredje bogs afslutning på historien noget rod på flere planer.

Historien padlede afsted uden nok dramatik. Vi blev ført fra den ene lange dialog uden dramatisk potentiale til den anden, hvor det var åbenlyst Card forsøgte at være sjo
Mar 06, 2017 rated it liked it
I think this book was too quippy for me. And too pop-culture referencing. The constant references pulled me out of the story and I didn't enjoy it.

Also? Too much talk of ka and ba and inself and outself.

Dialog and plot were still fun and fast paced. But honestly, I thought this book was over way before it actually was and I just didn't care for it that much.
Jul 05, 2018 rated it liked it
This last book lacks Danny and the Danny we get is... too powerful? Definitely too bland. The end comes too easily, the magic becomes too weak and at the same time too much.
Araminta Matthews
Jan 11, 2017 rated it it was ok
I really liked the first book in this series. The second book was really more of a bridge-gap. This third book, though, was a heaping disappointment. It is as though Card lost his ability to tie together story lines into an engaging narrative. Because the series ends so disappointingly, I wouldn't actually recommend reading the first book. You'll just get your hopes up.

Specifically, Card's depiction of young women is even more horribly misogynistic and two-dimensional in this book. Not only does
BJ Fogleman
Jan 08, 2017 rated it did not like it
This is one of the worst books I have ever read. It read like Mr. Card handed it off to a teenaged ghost writer.
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