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Hell's Foundations Quiver

(Safehold #8)

4.16  ·  Rating details ·  3,704 ratings  ·  218 reviews
Centuries ago, the human race fought its first great war against an alien race—and lost. A tiny population of human beings fled to distant Safehold. Centuries later, their descendants have forgotten their history; for them, life has been an eternal Middle Ages, ruled by the Church of God Awaiting, whose secret purpose is to prevent the reemergence of ind
Hardcover, 784 pages
Published October 13th 2015 by Tor Books
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George Because they're each of them only half of an English one. If you go look at any of them here on Goodreads, you'll see that, e.g., Operation Arche is m…moreBecause they're each of them only half of an English one. If you go look at any of them here on Goodreads, you'll see that, e.g., Operation Arche is marked "(Safehold #1 part 1)".

And they haven't caught up w/ the English, either. At this time, w/ #8 published in English, the last shown auf deutsch is Safehold #7 part 1.(less)
George Because they're each of them only half of an English one. If you go look at any of them here on Goodreads, you'll see that, e.g., Operation Arche is m…moreBecause they're each of them only half of an English one. If you go look at any of them here on Goodreads, you'll see that, e.g., Operation Arche is marked "(Safehold #1 part 1)".(less)

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Jeff Crosby
This series has become an incredibly long serialized novel. In this case, that is not a criticism, but it is a warning to new readers. Don't start here. While reading Honor Harrington out of order is possible--although I wouldn't recommend it, New readers of Safehold must start with Off Armageddon Reef or you will be hopelessly lost.

Because Weber continues to expand roles and introduce new characters, the pace of this novel is sluggish. As always, the naval sequnces are more interesting than the
Brett T
At almost 800 pages, Hell's Foundations Quiver is the longest of David Weber's eight "Safehold" books. You could make a good argument, too, that it does the least to move the story of Safehold forward of any of those eight.

We begin with the forces of the Charisian Empire solidifying their control over the nation of Siddarmark and preparing to face the immense armies of the Church of God Awaiting marshaled by the nation of Harchong. We end with most of that mopping up finished and the forces of t
Still enthralling at volume 8 and with a great beginning (snippeted to a large extent until today though there are a few more surprises there) and a fast pace furious ending with the last sentence in the volume 7 style, while the rest of the 700 or so pages follow organically what happened before with battles on land, sea, intrigues and positioning for the finale (of the current arc) which i can see happening in the next volume though as per the author it could take two more

very similar with vol
Scott Holstad
Oct 16, 2015 rated it liked it
Shelves: sci-fi, david-weber

Hell's Foundations Quiver (Safehold #8) was a fantastic book. But David Weber, the author, is a first class ASSHOLE and I'm getting really sick of this addictive fucking series he's written. This is the fourth straight book with the war in Siddermark and with where the book ended, it's clear to me that there will need to be between two and four more books before this war is conclu
Apr 25, 2015 rated it it was amazing
Another really good book, in one of my favorite series!
You know, generally David Weber is one of my favorite SF/Fantasy authors of all time.

That said, this particular book--while better than the previous one or two--is still kind of unfocused. I hate to say it, but even Robert Jordan spent more time on each character, despite having so many main characters.

I will admit that NO ONE gets military, military technical, or historical details down in exemplary story print form the way David Weber does. He always spends just enough time, in an entertaining
Nov 01, 2015 rated it it was ok
Shelves: library, sf
Once again bloat, taken to absurd extremes, makes the latest entry almost unreadable. As with the last volume, the contents of this one probably don't even justify half the page count; and it's difficult to see why, in a series that has now reached 8 volumes, the author feels it's necessary to pad to this extent.

I'm honestly not sure at this point whether I'll bother with any further entries in the series. Apart from the huge length and the scarcity of action (and what action there is consists,
Nov 17, 2015 rated it it was ok
The more I read of David Weber's newer work the more I come to the conclusion that he either needs an editor or he is trying to imitate GRR Martin.

There are tons of characters that aren't needed, entire chapters of events that don't need more than a paragraph of description, and worst of all it *barely* moves the plot of the entire series along.

Where once he could tell an interesting self-contained story that fit into a larger series now all we get is sprawling door stoppers that don't do *anyth
Oct 20, 2015 rated it it was amazing
This is the 8th book in the Safehold series by David Weber. I really enjoyed this book as well as the entire series. That being said the last couple of books while good were burdened down with a multitude of characters and a lot of background filler. This book did have several characters to keep up with but they were more significant to the series. There was also much more action and more appearances by the main characters from the beginning of the series. I recommend this book to fans of David ...more
Kathy Davie
Nov 01, 2015 rated it really liked it
Shelves: sci-fi, military
Eighth in the Safehold military science fiction series and devolving around a religious war between a corrupt Church and the decent people the Church claims are heretics.

My Take
It starts off with Aivah's story about Saint Kohdy and the secretive order that has kept his grave and journal safe. Boy, talk about a horror. The cover-up on this, while well done, is disgusting. Rewriting their holy book to cover up their sins. Adding new books to reflect the changes later generations of vicars and prie
Nov 02, 2015 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book had the EXACT same problem as its predecessor, Like a Mighty Army. Two problems in fact. The first is the book ends too soon, which is to say, 83% of the way through (according to my kindle app), which is about ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY PAGES from the end of the book if you're on the dead-tree edition. The next 13 % of the book (again 100+ pages for the analogue edition) is taken up with a list of characters (I'm not kidding, here's a screenshot from the start, and here's one from the end) ...more
Rick English

Hells Foundations Quiver
The eighth book in this saga is more of the same. A slow progress through the industrial revolution necessitated primarily by the need to develop weaponry. A world war on land and sea being fought with 18th to 19th century weapons. Some major characters are reasonably well developed. Others, too many, are defined more by their rank and affiliation than anything else. I started out loving this series and will probably continue to read it. But, I have some reservations.

I re
Apr 12, 2015 rated it really liked it
For fucks sake. He got me again.

I was at 80% of this book this morning and doing a bit of reading before going to work. I figured I would finish it by the end of the day. Catching a few hours at lunch and in between projects to read. Nope, at the 84% mark I hit the first page of the character list. One of these days I won't be surprised by the ending of a Safehold book.

That being said I think this was a much better book than the previous one. Most of the conversations with Cayleb and his croni
Oct 31, 2015 rated it liked it
Shelves: fantasy, 2015, audiobook
This continues to be the craziest crossing of purple prose and rivet counting. Oliver Wyman continues to be an excellent reader for it, though I do wonder how many times he found himself saying "you can type this shit, but you sure as hell can't say it."

I'm not even really sure what the point behind this one was. It wasn't even really about moving the deck chairs around for the next scene. Nothing really happened. As a matter of fact, all of the things that looked to be happening this book got i
Oct 04, 2016 rated it liked it
When we decided to review the winners of the Dragon Awards, prior to the announcement of said winners, I quickly raised my hand and volunteered to review the Military Science Fiction/Fantasy category. I’m not sure what part of my brain thought this was a good idea because, to be quite honest; I am not all that interested in the minutiae of military fiction,- but I do understand and appreciate it. Weber’s attention to detail when it comes to the intricacies of the long fought war–whether it be ma ...more
I.F. Adams
Dec 21, 2020 rated it liked it
2.5 stars

Much like the book, my review is going to be long and rambling....

I set this series down around 2015 after binging several of the books in a row. At the time I thought maybe I was just a little burnt out (they're *long* volumes) and it's an extremely well constructed and complex universe, with a technologically repressed and hyper-religious society being "uplifted"

Fast forward to this year. As sort of an experiment I re-read book 1 before jumping to this one.

Book 1 was solid. A fair bit
Dec 14, 2016 rated it really liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
Events occur in Hell’s Foundations Quiver that I wasn’t expecting to happen in the Safehold series. In spite of the proscriptions against advancing technology, the evil Zhaspar Clyntahn decides to allow his craftsmen, manufacturers, and inventors enough leeway to actually leapfrog Charisian technology in a couple of advanced weapon systems. One of these advances isn’t quite a U-boat, but the potential effect of these small but stealthy vessels on the “Holy War” on Safehold has similar parallels ...more
Barb in Maryland
Oct 03, 2016 rated it liked it
3.5 stars.
Some thoughts:
This volume, like the several preceding it, suffers from 'middle book syndrome'. There is action galore, most of which consists of moving people around the map interspersed with battles, which sets the stage for the next book.
There is some forward progress in the grand story arc, with some interesting developments on both sides of the conflict.
The author introduces new characters with the same abandon as he introduces new weaponry (both sets coming with the typical Webe
Steven Bragg
Oct 26, 2015 rated it liked it
The author has a large amount of writing skill, and can crank out long battle scenes that are quite entertaining. However, this story suffers from several items. One is his extremely odd naming convention that involves throwing in a "y" instead of some more suitable vowel whenever possible. The result is hundreds of names that are nearly indistinguishable, forcing the reader to skim over names instead of trying figure out who is in the middle of the action. Also, the cast of characters is so inc ...more
Oct 14, 2015 rated it liked it
Recommends it for: Those who like complex political and military Sci-Fi or Fantasy
Recommended to Bill by: Weber
Shelves: science-fiction
This is book 8 of the neverending story of Safehold, technically a Sci-Fi, but with Fantasy overtones. It is a highly complex political/military series, requiring constant looking up of whose who in the immense appendices. I think Weber is trying to compete with Cherryh's Foreigner series and fails, IMO. The latter is much better done and engaging with better developed characters. Still, if you like complex political/military SciFi-Fan this series is for you.

My main complaints is that the maps
Aug 11, 2015 rated it liked it
Shelves: future-past
3.5 rounded down with a large caveat.

The story elements are great, the entertainment value is all there, but this is starting to feel like the middle third of WoT, where lots of things happen but not really anything takes place. It seems like the story arc is ready to be closed though but on the other hand we're still so far away from the ultimate conclusion of the Gbaba arc.

I will continue to read the series and will continue to enjoy it, but we're 8 books in and it's about time to start wrappi
Oct 13, 2015 rated it liked it
The Safehold story continues with more of the same. The writing is entertaining at times but the story doesn't move forward by much with every thick volume.
I will probably buy the next book but if that doesn't get us to the Temple i will probably give up.
Daniel Shellenbarger
I'm still enjoying the story, but Weber's worst habits in this series were on full display in Hell's Foundations Quiver and I couldn't justify giving it more than 3 stars. Maybe I'll be more forgiving if I ever reread it, but I'm just SO sick of Weber having just the most ridiculous circumstances combine so that the Charisians don't completely wipe the floor with their enemies, and the extent to which he pushes all credulity to ensure that the Dohlarans will still be a functional naval threat in ...more
Cindy Stiverson
Oct 12, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition

Definatly for the keeper shelf. I want the next one NOW!!!!
Please write faster!!!!!
I can't wait to recomend this book and series.
Jan 30, 2017 rated it it was ok
Shelves: sci-fi
Too long, too many characters with too similar names and too many different settings and locations. If Weber wanted to portray the confusion and assault on the senses a war presents to its participants, he has made some strides towards achieving such a goal. However, the same attributes impede an entertaining and exciting reading experience.

At times it is hard not to notice than even the author has lost the track of his many characters. They become little more than cutout general types, repetiti
Sep 28, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The protestant reformation re-imagined

I just reread this volume and it reads differently than it did a couple of years ago. After writing reviews for a couple of years, I think about things that I noticed but didn't dwell on or even put into words before.

I like the series very much but I saw how much room in the book is devoted to technical description of the weapons (guns, ships, armour, artillery, ammunition) and the manufacturing of same. I like that kind of stuff (being a sort of nerd, I gu
Feb 21, 2021 rated it liked it
David Weber has created an interesting world, and that world is at war. This book is number eight in the series and the war is no where close to over. Not a great place to start!

This is a very complex, technical, and detailed story. The genre would be political/military science fiction with a religious twist.

There is lots of action, however, most of it is like watching chess on TV. The entire story lacks a main character that would create emotion.

I enjoyed the world, and the battle scenes were g
May 16, 2019 rated it really liked it
These are my kind of book, tightly written, fast moving plots with frequent shifts in the action. They are also all around 285,000 words or around 700 to 800 pages! Weber's created world is interesting, and just like in his spectacularly engrossing Honorverse series, he makes the characters real to you. You begin to expect things or find things satisfying because of how they begin to become real people you'd want to know, or truly hate! There is FAR too much going on in each of these books for m ...more
Jules Bertaut
These books are kinda all like each other, but fortunately this one was high on battles, low on long speeches. These books have a cast of about 6 million characters, all of whom are referred to about 17 different ways (like, Duke Caleb, Caleb Sanders, and Earl Green Lake could all be the same guy, but Admiral Sanders is his brother) and it's a lot to keep track of. And there's 3 different countries whose names start with C (along with a bunch of other countries) and it's a lot to keep track of w ...more
Michael Rutkowski
Man that was one, long book ! 929 pages and the story and plot of the series is advanced so little ! Time to pick up the pace and start heading to a conclusion of this over extended series ! Weber also introduced so, so many new characters with similar spelled names that its was impossible for me to keep track of them and a majority of them ended up being inconsequential anyway ! The main characters in the series were almost non existent ! It seems like this was just written as a money grab or s ...more
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David Mark Weber is an American science fiction and fantasy author. He was born in Cleveland, Ohio in 1952.

Many of his stories have military, particularly naval, themes, and fit into the military science fiction genre. He frequently places female leading characters in what have been traditionally male roles.

One of his most popular and enduring characters is Honor Harrington whose alliterated name

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Safehold (10 books)
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  • By Schism Rent Asunder (Safehold, #2)
  • By Heresies Distressed (Safehold, #3)
  • A Mighty Fortress (Safehold, #4)
  • How Firm a Foundation (Safehold, #5)
  • Midst Toil and Tribulation (Safehold, #6)
  • Like a Mighty Army (Safehold, #7)
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