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3.84  ·  Rating details ·  6,261 ratings  ·  400 reviews
Twee jaar lang heeft Joris Luyendijk zich ondergedompeld in het hart van de financiële wereld. Juist omdat hij geen kenner was van de bankenwereld, was hij de ideale auteur om te onderzoeken wat er gebeurd is: hoe gesloten de wereld van de high finance ook is, velen wilde met hem praten om uit te leggen hoe mooi hun werk was. Hoe zwaar. Hoe interessant. En hoe gevaarlijk.

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Published February 2015 by Atlas Contact
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Tanja Berg
Jan 27, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: business, non-fiction
This is an interesting journalistic approach to the finance sector. The author is after answering the question of why the 2008 financial crash happened, and whether it could happen again. The answer is that most people in the financial and banking sector feel that they had nothing to do with the crash at all. The main reason was very complicated financial products that were based in subprime loans - loans to people with a high risk of not being able to pay back.

The financial system is set up so
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Mark
Feb 23, 2015 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2015, dutch, non-fiction
This book is based upon a series of blogs written for the Guardian [UK] and did concern the financial world as represented by the City in London. In the blogs the journalist has tried to discover why the crash happened and how it happened. The answers are both baffling and scary and I will give you a big spoiler as that is what the book is about. Why it happened?- It did not happen we got burned and saved in the nick of time, how did it happen?- It is perhaps an inescapable fate due to the natur ...more
Philippe
Nov 20, 2016 rated it really liked it
In the wake of the 2008 financial meltdown, Guardian journalist Joris Luyendijk wanted to find out what organisational reality might explain this most blatant of management failures. Hundreds of interviews with people recruited from all over a sprawling financial sector coalesce in the motto image of an 'empty cockpit'. There is no single root cause, no obvious Machiavellian plot behind global markets going into a tailspin. The problem is systemic. A governance hiatus emerges in the midst of an ...more
Nancy
Mar 01, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is a very insightful book about the reality of the financial world. It does explain to a large extent the financial institutions and the salaries,bonuses and deals. I find it intriguing that wealth is now an issue that can not be shared with friends due to the excessive amounts. What is more, there is the loss of friends and partners due to the insane hours the professionals in this financial world keep. To top it all, the fears of the credit crunch of 2008 could actually happen again. Incr ...more
Hoda هدى
Apr 08, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is a scary book, but it is really insightful. I enjoyed reading it and learning more and more about this world that apparently what I thought I knew about it was nothing. It definitely made me rethink lots of things in my life. Yea, I learned so much from it.
Nina
Sep 10, 2021 rated it really liked it
Shelves: non-fiction, 2021
I mean… it’s very insightful but fucking depressing. Luyendijk spent a little over two years in the City (the financial district of London and thus the financial capital of Europe), interviewing over two hundred people. He tries to find out what went wrong in 2008, and what has changed since then. Spoiler alert: not much.
Eric Strijbos
Mar 02, 2015 rated it it was amazing
De neerslag in een boek van Joris Luyendijks blog over de Londense City in de Guardian (zeg maar de Engelse NRC). Ik kocht het vrijdag, en zondagochtend had ik het uit, in de kleine uurtjes. Bepaald geen boek waar je bij in slaap valt dus. Veel mensen wijten de crisis van 2008 (en daarna) aan hebzucht, maar het ligt nogal wat ingewikkelder - en gelukkig wordt het goed uitgelegd. Dit boek zouden heel veel mensen moeten lezen. Goed geschreven en razend interessant, want het gaat ons in feite allem ...more
Frederick
Oct 07, 2020 rated it really liked it
Shelves: read-in-2020
"It cannot be true": this book by Dutch journalist is based on his blogs for the Guardian about the City of London and the life of big Finance after the big financial crisis. He wants to find out how the City works and whether they have learned from their previous mistakes leading to the near-breakdown of the system. Or can the system collapse once more? The code of silence - the omerta of the financial world- made it hard for him to find bankers and deal makers willing to give an interview. I l ...more
Saif AL Jahwari
May 04, 2021 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition

I do have mixed feelings about the book. It ends in the same starting point. It’s clear there is a problem on the banking system, but it’s not clear if we have had learned the 2008 crisis lessons yet. I like the author’s methodology to breach the banking secrecy, even though, in my view, it was not enough to clarify all weaknesses of the current banking system.

“The next global financial blow-up will begin with an IT crash.”
Laura
Jan 14, 2020 rated it it was amazing
Cool piece of journalistic writing about the banking world in the City, and the specifics about the financial almost-crash in 2008. Made the complicated systems much more understandable to me, combined with engaging writing and interesting interviews.
Khan Ashraf  Alif
Dragging & scattered
Jeffrey
Jul 05, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
There’s many things to like about Joris Luyendijk’s 2006 book People Like Us: Misrepresenting the Middle East. It’s insightful, frank, interesting, and anthropologically informed. What’s most memorable about it, though, is its fair-minded coverage of a subject—Israel—that rarely receives as much. What makes his feat of unbias all the more praiseworthy is the fact that Luyendijk is a Western European and was writing for an audience that probably came to his book with a distinct set of ideas about ...more
Biblio Files (takingadayoff)
What caused the financial crisis of 2008? What has been done since then to ensure it doesn't happen again? Who was responsible and how have they had to pay for the mistakes that were made? Like many people, Dutch journalist Joris Luyendijk figured it was complicated financial instruments and the greed of bankers that caused the crash and that new regulations will prevent it from happening again. And what exactly did happen?

What he found out horrified him, mostly because the bankers who understoo
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Maggie Hesseling
I read part of the book in Dutch and other parts in English (I had both copies and just kept one at work and the other at home). This made for an interesting reading experience, especially considering that it seemed as if I was almost reading two different books at once that were discussing the same thing. Each book reads incredibly well, but the Dutch version has more of a 'doomsday' feel to it than the English one does. That being said, there were points where I was wondering why the people I ...more
Samuel van Deth
Oct 18, 2015 rated it it was ok
Perhaps I started the book with the wrong expectations, but I hoped to get a better understanding on how unique the banking industry is, what exactly happened during the financial crisis, and what will happen if we don't change the structure.

That the structure is not perfect is certainly not an eye-opener. I would say that accounts to most of global corporate industries. Luyendijk fails to make me understand how different the banking industry is.

Although you can assume a strong connection betwee
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Kees-Jan van Engelenburg
Oct 03, 2015 rated it really liked it
The whole system is corrupt.. If we want change we should start over again..
Alison
Dec 21, 2015 rated it it was ok
Shelves: nonfiction
London bankers from an anthropological viewpoint, which apparently means arranging interviewees into groups.
Grapeseed22
Feb 27, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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“How can these people live with themselves?” Joris Luyendijk is a Dutch journalist with a degree in anthropology and with a prior post in the Middle East. Luyendijk, without any prior knowledge, was assigned by the Guardian to try to understand the people that populate the City. After discussing with friends and searching for a theme, the initial angle was to understand how these people who had inflicted so much pain on the world by causing the 2008 financial crisis and receiving bonuses meanwhi ...more
Gerrit
Oct 15, 2018 rated it really liked it
Shelves: society
This anthropology of banking is scary stuff. It is based on interviews with around 200 people working in the industry in the City of London. It demonstrates that the financial crisis of 2008 was not a result of bugs in the system, but of its basic features. Also, based on the interviews, most people (me at least) have no idea how close we were to a total societal collapse.

Sometimes it seems that Luyendijk himself gets so charmed by the sector that he exhibits some cognitive dissonance. He may ev
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Aaron Schumacher
Dec 13, 2021 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
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"Inside the world of the bankers,"

"You see a cluster of islands in the fog, staffed by mercenaries." (page 145)

Luyendijk wrote a 2011-2013 banking blog for the Guardian based on interviews with bankers in London. It became this 2015 book. It's quite late to the "What happened in 2008?" party, and even makes the observation that

"the sector has become immune to exposure." (page 252)

It does seem like some things these days are so bad they can hardly be made to look worse, and yet far from being sto
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Rob Brock
While other, higher profile books have been written about the world of finance and the 2008 crash, this was my first book touching on the subject, and it might have been the perfect first book. The author is a journalist for the Guardian newspaper in London, and an anthropologist by training, and he approached his research into the financial sector without any prior knowledge of the industry. The author interviewed over two hundered bankers in all areas of finance, and wrote about these intervie ...more
Hanna
Apr 18, 2021 rated it it was amazing
This book was... something. The financial crisis might feel like it was a long time ago with all of the things that have happened since but this book still felt very contemporary. And scary. Bankers might not be evil villains laughing maniacally while they rip off customers and set the world up for the next financial crash... but the reality might almost be as frightening.

Luyendijk sketches a picture of a financial sector where morality is not a criterium. We meet bankers who see what is wrong
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Kevin
Jul 05, 2018 rated it it was amazing
There is also an English version now (This can't be True). This books gives an amazing insight in the inner workings of banks and the financial market in general. The book comes to a slow start. In typical Luyendijk style he describes his personal journey into the financial world; all the struggles that come with researching one of the largest and nontransparent markets and the similar institutions that come with it.
Later in the book more detail about the workings and mechanisms of the financial
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Monika
Aug 24, 2022 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: politics
A great and sobering read.

'Swimming with Sharks' is based on over 100 interviews that Luyendijk had with people working in the Financial sector in London circa 2011. The book was a fascinating read, even over a decade after the financial crash, as it makes it clear how the system is set up so no one feels responsible for what happened.

I also really enjoyed how 'Swimming with Sharks' was structured, as Luyendijk takes you on a journey on how he first started writing and interviewing people as w
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Rudy Parker
Dec 31, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is an anthropologists guide to working in finance; he interviews and then categorises each type like tribes - Hedge fund managers, back office, compliance, investment bankers, lawyers, accountants. I like the way he groups them into 'Masters of the universe', 'Teeth grinders' and 'Neutrals'. Also having a Dutchman describe some of the behaviour is genius, since He is so direct and unpretentious as to be comical. He brings up the point that nothing really has been done since the last crash i ...more
Jonathan
May 06, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
A must read if you want a solid introduction to part of the events leading to the financial crash in 2008. I enjoyed how the author presented his book starting from basic questions and then taking us along in his journey to discover more and more about who the "bankers" really are, what drives them, what different type of banker exist, how the banking system works,... This book is accessible even to those without a financial background. If you want to grasp more of what lead to the meltdown of t ...more
Jonny Medland
Jan 21, 2017 rated it it was amazing
The English language version of this book (Swimming with Sharks) is well worth reading even if you've followed the Voices of Finance series that the Guardian published. The author pulls out the insights from those interviews into a very readable, broadly accurate set of themes and conclusions. It's slightly simplified at points, but that's more or less inevitable given the topic and intended audience. ...more
Dan O'Meara
Dec 30, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Be afraid, be very afraid!
A deeply sobering account of how the twisted logic of the bankers brought the world to the bring of financial collapse and global chaos in 2008 — and how almost nothing has changed. And now Donald Trump hands control of the key economic posts in the American government to exactly the kinds of people whose greed and bloodlust for financial feeding frenzy produced the chaos. There is blood in the water and we are all trapped!
Alex Stefan
An interesting overview into the world of global finance, trying to figure out who is responsible for the recurring crisis in the sector, the last one being the 2008.

It's more of a journalistic endeavor, being based on 200 interviews, but with a hint of anthropology. Maybe a little bit too moralizing at times, but in the end the answer lies in how global financial institutions are structured, and in that sense it is a book about the frailties of capitalism.
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