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The Apple and the Thorn

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The Apple and the Thorn A profound journey of religious belief and deep spiritual change, a mythic tale poignant with truth and wisdom for today. A work of magical mythology, hanging in the balance between fact and fiction, The Apple and The Thorn draws upon the great legends and history of ancestry, heritage and the British landscape. Amidst the changing times of first century Britain, Vivian, Lady of the Lake, struggle... Full description

296 pages, Paperback

First published May 1, 2008

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Walter William Melnyk

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Walter William Melnyk is a novelist, poet, violinist and weaver. He lives in a small log cabin atop a wooded mountain in Tennessee. Melnyk now plays the actual "Pavel's Violin," which he received from his Czech teacher, who is a member of Pavel's family. The experience of researching and writing the novel moved him to adopt Judaism, as a member of the Society for Humanistic Judaism. He is donating all his royalties from the book to the United States Holocaust Museum, and other Holocaust Memorials.

Formerly, Melnyk was a priest in the Episcopal Church. He is the author of of two novels and works of spirituality emerging from his long spiritual journey.

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Author 6 books132 followers
September 13, 2012
It’s hard to put into words just how this book feels. It truly is an experience to read – the narrative voices seem to whisper in your ear, telling their story from the mists of the past, compelling you to listen.

The richness wetness of the marshes, the barren sands of the desert, the sensation of heartbreak, the closeness of death… all are described so simply and yet so powerfully that you, as reader, are drawn in.

It’s not an easy read, however. This books demands attention, presenting the experiences and various controversial ideas in such a way that you question your own beliefs, what you ‘know’ to be true. ‘It’s just a story’ doesn’t cut it here. You’re taking part, questioning what decisions you would take as the characters do. Life is reflected in the tale, beliefs and feelings, far more than just the usual ‘he did this’ or ‘she said that’.

As you invest, though, so you are rewarded. The story may be an old one, but it becomes so new, is made so real, that it’s not even vaguely a ‘fantasy’. Instead it holds a light up to a dark time, highlighting common lived human experience throughout history (and story), and creating a truly memorable book.

This has stayed with me, and I’ve already started reading it again.
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Author 53 books41 followers
February 4, 2008
Exploring some of the Glastonbury myths in a ficitonal way, this is an emotionally intense book, with compelling characters and a lot to think about. It made me cry, which is not the easiest thing to do. The writing style is beautiful. Highly recomended.
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845 reviews4 followers
April 24, 2018
I read this book due to being in a book club. Unfortunately I couldn't get into it. I think what I struggled with was I'm not familiar with any of the existing Legends. I'm just learning about Avalon now and I don't even know any King Arthur stores. So with out that context I was a bit lost. Perhaps I will go back and read again.
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23 reviews9 followers
August 24, 2013
This is a wonderful book and highly recommended for anyone who enjoys Arthurian myths and tales of Avalon. It weaves the tale of a possible love affair between Vivian, the Lady of Avalon and Joseph of Arimathea (great uncle of Jesus) circa 45 CD, a time when the Romans are well into their invasion of Britain. Each chapter alternates between the voices of Joseph and Vivian.

The Apple and the Thorn is a simple, beautifully-told story about two very complex mythologies at a point when one religion might have emerged from a blending of both. My own religious sympathies are earth-based and I found the book very inspiring and affirmed my own spirituality. It is however more than a bit critical of Christianity and I suspect that Christian readers may not find it as rewarding.
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321 reviews1 follower
September 6, 2020
very different

I am not fond of 1st person narratives. Having two, intertwined 1st person narratives, made this a hard start. But half way through chapter 3 everything clicked. It was still a slow and intense read. The words and scenes are vibrant and full of depth. The two clashing viewpoints each merit time to sink in and make sense. It forms an eye opening back story for the myth of Joseph of Aramathea's sojourn in Albion. It also turns the tales of Avalon and Viviene on their ear. The slow progression from uneasy friends to potential enemies, the unveiling of their beliefs, the ageless but still aged links between them really make the story flow. I am going to have read this again to truly delve into its mythic lore and its mysticism
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571 reviews16 followers
February 21, 2020
Dnf at 64%. I kept waiting for more depth and more about the Goddess, but I just got bored.
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42 reviews5 followers
February 22, 2020
This story successfully combines a Christian theology with the folk wisdom of the isles. It is a love story.
Profile Image for Cat Treadwell.
Author 6 books132 followers
September 13, 2012
It’s hard to put into words just how this book feels. It truly is an experience to read – the narrative voices seem to whisper in your ear, telling their story from the mists of the past, compelling you to listen.

The richness wetness of the marshes, the barren sands of the desert, the sensation of heartbreak, the closeness of death… all are described so simply and yet so powerfully that you, as reader, are drawn in.

It’s not an easy read, however. This books demands attention, presenting the experiences and various controversial ideas in such a way that you question your own beliefs, what you ‘know’ to be true. ‘It’s just a story’ doesn’t cut it here. You’re taking part, questioning what decisions you would take as the characters do. Life is reflected in the tale, beliefs and feelings, far more than just the usual ‘he did this’ or ‘she said that’.

As you invest, though, so you are rewarded. The story may be an old one, but it becomes so new, is made so real, that it’s not even vaguely a ‘fantasy’. Instead it holds a light up to a dark time, highlighting common lived human experience throughout history (and story), and creating a truly memorable book.

This has stayed with me, and I’ve already started reading it again.
Profile Image for Diane Perazzo.
23 reviews9 followers
March 7, 2015
This is a wonderful book and highly recommended for anyone who enjoys Arthurian myths and tales of Avalon. It weaves the tale of a possible love affair between Vivian, the Lady of Avalon and Joseph of Arimathea (great uncle of Jesus) circa 45 CD, a time when the Romans are well into their invasion of Britain. Each chapter alternates between the voices of Joseph and Vivian.

The Apple and the Thorn is a simple, beautifully-told story about two very complex mythologies at a point when one religion might have emerged from a blending of both. My own religious sympathies are earth-based and I found the book very inspiring and affirmed my own spirituality. It is however more than a bit critical of Christianity and I suspect that Christian readers may not find it as rewarding.
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4,220 reviews119 followers
October 26, 2012
What an amazing book! The words draw you into the shelter of the Mists as they tell you some part of the story of Vivian and Eosaidh. You will feel the words transform the story into a living being, told around the hearth fire by a Master Storyteller. The description of the Fires of Bel was oustanding. I was pulled into this and even now I can feel the words and ways in my soul. Put the effort in, read the book. You will be richly rewarded.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

"In water and mud and bark, in cloud and tree not yet clothed in leaves, I saw before me the flesh of my gods. Every whisper was a note in the songs of my ancestors, a part of their stories which must ever be told."
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Author 4 books10 followers
April 15, 2013
This tale brings together the Lady of the Lake and Joseph of Arimathea, entwined with the legend of the holy grail, the fall of the ancient Britains to the Romans, and the dawning of Christianity in a far flung country. It's a simple, yet enchanting tale of love slowly recaptured between the two main characters, and about how these other events has brought them together.

I'm not really sure how to sum up this book. I enjoyed it, that's for certain. But having finished it, I wasn't left with a feeling of elation, yet I wasn't left with a feeling of disappointment. It was more a feeling of, "that was nice".... Which is not a bad feeling to have at the end of a book.
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858 reviews12 followers
May 31, 2016
This is a mystical & magical story. It challenges the reader to set aside any number of preconceptions & to learn new ways of looking at reality. It raises questions about many deep subjects: the person of Jesus of Nazareth; the origins of belief; Judaism; growing up & maturity; how Christianity began; the tensions which pull one in different directions; relationship; the endurance of love; loneliness, both exterior & interior. It's a fascinating novel!
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407 reviews10 followers
June 12, 2012
This was a well written story which I loved. Anyone who loves the Avalon stories will love this one as well. The way she hints at the connection between Joseph of Arathema and the holy grail is fun. Loved it.
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16 reviews1 follower
February 16, 2014
WOW.....

I have loved Emma's writing of Druidry and now this story she's woven is truly moving and breathtaking! Anyone looking to read this magickal journey.....should! :-)
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