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This is the Omnibus edition of Blindsight and Echopraxia .
FIRST CONTACT: 13 FEBRUARY 2082.
The day sixty-five thousand objects burned briefly around Earth: an unexplained moment of surveillance by an alien intelligence. We called it Firefall.
Two months later, we sent the Theseus reconnaisance mission into deep space. Somewhere past Jupiter, we lost contact.
For the la ...more
FIRST CONTACT: 13 FEBRUARY 2082.
The day sixty-five thousand objects burned briefly around Earth: an unexplained moment of surveillance by an alien intelligence. We called it Firefall.
Two months later, we sent the Theseus reconnaisance mission into deep space. Somewhere past Jupiter, we lost contact.
For the la ...more
Hardcover, 720 pages
Published
September 25th 2014
by Head of Zeus
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Mar 13, 2018
Claudia
rated it
it was amazing
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review of another edition
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Note: links inserted in the review contain minor spoilers.
I’ve had my fair share of sci-fi works, with mind-blowing ideas and, at times, with worlds and concepts hard to imagine. But this duology was the most dense and tough I had read so far.
Blindsight
02/13/2082: Earth is surrounded by 65,000 alien objects, named Fireflies which after a little while, burned in atmosphere. Humanity is caught off guard and reactions are all over the spectrum. The quest in pursuing why/who/what sent them be ...more
I’ve had my fair share of sci-fi works, with mind-blowing ideas and, at times, with worlds and concepts hard to imagine. But this duology was the most dense and tough I had read so far.
Blindsight
02/13/2082: Earth is surrounded by 65,000 alien objects, named Fireflies which after a little while, burned in atmosphere. Humanity is caught off guard and reactions are all over the spectrum. The quest in pursuing why/who/what sent them be ...more
Firefall is an omnibus edition of Blindsight and Echopraxia. While my review of Blindsight is and ever shall remain "The most mind-numbingly horrifying thing I've ever read.", Firefall was something quite different.
Before I even start reviewing Firefall I want to say that nobody alive works as hard as Watts: http://www.rifters.com/ and that it's completely worth tracking down the two prequels to this piece, The Colonel and Orientation Day
Set parallel to the Theseus mission out to Big Ben, Firefa ...more
Before I even start reviewing Firefall I want to say that nobody alive works as hard as Watts: http://www.rifters.com/ and that it's completely worth tracking down the two prequels to this piece, The Colonel and Orientation Day
Set parallel to the Theseus mission out to Big Ben, Firefa ...more
“I am naked as I type this. I was naked writing the whole damn book”. I have to comply with the protocol when writing the review too.
- “Living fourteen thousand years didn’t make me a genius, I just had time.
- Time... You can’t see it, you can’t hear it, you can’t weight it, you can’t... measure it in a laboratory. It’s a subjective sense of... becoming what we are instead of what we were a nanosecond ago, becoming what we will be in another nanosecond. The whole piece of time is a landscape exi ...more
- “Living fourteen thousand years didn’t make me a genius, I just had time.
- Time... You can’t see it, you can’t hear it, you can’t weight it, you can’t... measure it in a laboratory. It’s a subjective sense of... becoming what we are instead of what we were a nanosecond ago, becoming what we will be in another nanosecond. The whole piece of time is a landscape exi ...more
Blindsight is rather hard science fiction (for a first contact novel featuring vampires in space, um) that - as good scifi should - asks difficult questions, in this case about humanity, consciousness and emotion. I found it interesting and thought-provoking rather than enjoyable - good brain food, but don't expect a light at the end of the tunnel or much else in the way of sustenance for the heart.
More thoughts on Blindsight.
Like Blindsight, Echopraxia may be one of those books that will sit be ...more
More thoughts on Blindsight.
Like Blindsight, Echopraxia may be one of those books that will sit be ...more
Utterly astonishing. This book has dared tread to places I’ve never even considered existed and managed it all with nail-biting tension. Watts explains concepts that are by their very nature post-human, post-homunculus, but does so in ways which are engaging and understandable for us basic humans. Where he got his ideas, I will never understand, regardless that he spells them out in detail in the post-script! Completely unique and masterful in scope and design.
Apr 20, 2018
Dave White
marked it as never-finished
Full of great ideas, but would it kill to make it a bit more approachable? People on the internets are prising it for it's inovative ideas, but also mention how it took them 3 reads to appreciate it. Aint nobody have time for that.
I'm torn tho, reading about the book seems like such an interesting experience and yet when I open the actual book my mind just automatically starts skipping paragraphs.
I'm torn tho, reading about the book seems like such an interesting experience and yet when I open the actual book my mind just automatically starts skipping paragraphs.
Joy of joys! This book finishes at 88%, and the rest is acknowledgements and notes. Thank goodness, but this was a slog.
Or rather, Echopraxia - the second book in the duology - was a slog.
The compendium of Firefall is made up of Blindsight and Echopraxia. The two cover the fallout of first contact.
In Blindsight, we travel with the crew dispatched to investigate the source of the objects which alerted Earth to the undeniable fact of alien life. Siri Keeton is our narrator, and he's there strictly ...more
Or rather, Echopraxia - the second book in the duology - was a slog.
The compendium of Firefall is made up of Blindsight and Echopraxia. The two cover the fallout of first contact.
In Blindsight, we travel with the crew dispatched to investigate the source of the objects which alerted Earth to the undeniable fact of alien life. Siri Keeton is our narrator, and he's there strictly ...more
So this was an omnibus of two books (Blindsight and Echopraxia) which tell seperate but related stories of first contact with aliens in a near-ish future. The first part of the omnibus (Blindsight) was as dense and sometimes impenetrable as other reviews had lead me to expect - however the overall story of the spaceship & crew encountering a genuinely disturbing and quite original alien entity did engage me and there were a few thrills and chills in there that kept me reading.
However. The s ...more
However. The s ...more
Dnf. Only managed to get through the first book.
Started out interesting and new but faded into a drama more than an alien exploration. Rape and victim blaming trigger warning and possible stockholme syndrome where the victim tries to save his rapist which is even worse because in this society people don't have sex physically, they have sex virtually so. Yeah. Didn't want to drag myself through the second half.
Started out interesting and new but faded into a drama more than an alien exploration. Rape and victim blaming trigger warning and possible stockholme syndrome where the victim tries to save his rapist which is even worse because in this society people don't have sex physically, they have sex virtually so. Yeah. Didn't want to drag myself through the second half.
Firefall comprises two novels - I've just finished reading the first, Blindisght, and here is its review http://forwinternights.wordpress.com/...
I couldn't finish part 2, unfortunately.
I couldn't finish part 2, unfortunately.
Oh, where to start? Reading this double hard SF offering made me giddy with glee! If you don't have at least a passing interest in the sciences and emerging tech, you will probably hate this. If your eye was drawn to a mention of zombies and vampires, stop right there. There is absolutely nothing for Twilight and Walking Dead fans here. Move on.
In Blindsight, the first of two novels incorporated into Firefall, Watts draws on current and nascent: biology, neuroscience, propulsion, particle, mate ...more
In Blindsight, the first of two novels incorporated into Firefall, Watts draws on current and nascent: biology, neuroscience, propulsion, particle, mate ...more
OVERALL RATING: 4 stars (8 out of 10)
Overall, a very interesting and enjoyable science fiction read.
I think the first book, Blindsight, had the more original, imaginative, and compelling sci-fi elements to it, but the characterizations and overall plot fell a bit flat for me. I think the very nature of the characters, particularly the main protagonist, does not help since he is by his very nature not a very relate-able person. I also found the pacing and writing quality to be a bit inconsistent, ...more
Overall, a very interesting and enjoyable science fiction read.
I think the first book, Blindsight, had the more original, imaginative, and compelling sci-fi elements to it, but the characterizations and overall plot fell a bit flat for me. I think the very nature of the characters, particularly the main protagonist, does not help since he is by his very nature not a very relate-able person. I also found the pacing and writing quality to be a bit inconsistent, ...more
The first book, Blindsight, is excellent, told from the point of view of a truly unique character, Siri, who is chosen to go on a first contact mission on board a ship called Thesus. Peter Watts knows his stuff (which prompted me to undertake some fascinating reading to catch up) the science is hard and cutting edge, yet never overpowers the story being told. The aliens involved are properly exotically alien too, fully original in a way I'd never considered before.
The next book, Echopraxia, is ...more
The next book, Echopraxia, is ...more
First off, two stories in one omnibus edition, stories that are linked together through father and son (but set within a few years of each other), both separate, extraordinary journeys from Earth to space and back again: fusing together diverse characters (melding hunters and their prey into an unlikely galactic search team), pitting them against an unknown, unquantifiable threat, and then watching the whole thing unravel. Is there intelligent life out there? You bet, and even the dead can't sav
...more
I had previously read echopraxia without reading blindsight. stupid move. so I bought this and read it properly. its amazing. it is so tough and my intellect was often foundering. despite this I found it to be totally engrossing, banged through it. hard sci fi with lots of horror. its a first contact novel as good as annhilation
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Jun 21, 2015
James Kemp
rated it
it was amazing
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review of another edition
Recommended to James by:
Charlie Stross
This is an epic science fiction first contact piece that left me wondering about sentience, consciousness and whether I could trust anything I saw, heard or felt. It is certainly the best book that I have read so far in 2015.
The book is an expansion of a previous novella, which is about half of the story. It's set in an advanced human spaceship travelling out to make contact with some suspicious anomalies in the outer solar system a few years after a massive extraterrestial probing of Earth, th ...more
The book is an expansion of a previous novella, which is about half of the story. It's set in an advanced human spaceship travelling out to make contact with some suspicious anomalies in the outer solar system a few years after a massive extraterrestial probing of Earth, th ...more
Jan 05, 2017
Down With People
added it
i love this vampires so very very much
So now I've finished reading through Blindsight and Echopraxia cover to cover for the second time... and I still think it probably has the best synthesis of sci-fi themes and good writing I have ever encountered anywhere in the whole storytelling world - yes, there were some other really cool sci-fies that left me in a terrible state of perpetual awe that I never really recovered from... like Greg Egan's Orthogonal trilogy for example... and there's a lot of catching up to do in the realm of so
...more
Dec 12, 2014
Brainycat
rated it
really liked it
Recommends it for:
Fans of the Rifters trilogy and fans of [post,trans]humanist scifi
Brainycat's 5 "B"s:
blood: 4
boobs: 0
bombs: 4
bondage: 0
blasphemy: 2
Bechdel Test: PASS
Deggan's Rule: FAIL
Gay Bechdel Test: FAIL
Peter Watts makes scifi exciting for me again. This omnibus reads like a single epic; much like his beloved Rifters trilogy, the action in the latter book picks up ...more
blood: 4
boobs: 0
bombs: 4
bondage: 0
blasphemy: 2
Bechdel Test: PASS
Deggan's Rule: FAIL
Gay Bechdel Test: FAIL
Please note: I don't review to provide synopses, I review to share a purely visceral reaction to books and perhaps answer some of the questions I ask when I'm contemplating investing time and money into a book.
Peter Watts makes scifi exciting for me again. This omnibus reads like a single epic; much like his beloved Rifters trilogy, the action in the latter book picks up ...more
From SFX #254.
Human obsolescence beckons.
Firefall is by turns brilliant and merciless, a science-fictionalised philosophical argument that human sentience is neither inevitable nor necessary, and that freewill is an illusion. Dressed up, naturally, with aliens and spaceships and such. Originally two books, it’s released here in the UK in one volume.
Blindsight (original publication date 2006) is set at the tail end of a post-singularity 21st century. The catalysing event is the unexpected survey ...more
Human obsolescence beckons.
Firefall is by turns brilliant and merciless, a science-fictionalised philosophical argument that human sentience is neither inevitable nor necessary, and that freewill is an illusion. Dressed up, naturally, with aliens and spaceships and such. Originally two books, it’s released here in the UK in one volume.
Blindsight (original publication date 2006) is set at the tail end of a post-singularity 21st century. The catalysing event is the unexpected survey ...more
I just started reading this today. Its an 750-page combined version of Watt's "Blindsight" and "Echopraxia". I had mine shipped-over from the UK more than a year ago, but its now available in the States.
I first thought, I was just going to read the second part, "Echopraxia". After reading the Forward, I decided to start at the beginning, because it was a long time ago that I'd read "Blindsight", and I only vaguely remember it. I remember some tropes like vampires, AI, and 'real' Newtonian spacef ...more
I first thought, I was just going to read the second part, "Echopraxia". After reading the Forward, I decided to start at the beginning, because it was a long time ago that I'd read "Blindsight", and I only vaguely remember it. I remember some tropes like vampires, AI, and 'real' Newtonian spacef ...more
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The good
There are some really interesting concepts in the world Peter has built. I wont give them away but they definitely kept me reading long past the point where the plot and characters had completely lost any hook.
The main character had a really cool condition and seeing how he managed it was fascinating. Unfortunately the best interaction he had involved some conflict quite early and it was mostly downhill from there. His relationship gave good insight into him but when he fails to really d ...more
There are some really interesting concepts in the world Peter has built. I wont give them away but they definitely kept me reading long past the point where the plot and characters had completely lost any hook.
The main character had a really cool condition and seeing how he managed it was fascinating. Unfortunately the best interaction he had involved some conflict quite early and it was mostly downhill from there. His relationship gave good insight into him but when he fails to really d ...more
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