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Forever Peace (The Forever War #2)

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2043 A.D.: The Ngumi War rages. A burned-out soldier and his scientist lover discover a secret that could put the universe back to square one. And it is not terrifying. It is tempting...
Mass Market Paperback, 351 pages
Published October 1st 1998 by Ace Books (first published October 1997)
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Matt This is NOT a sequel. Forever Peace is a stand-alone story in a separate universe which is completely unrelated to Forever War. It has some similar…moreThis is NOT a sequel. Forever Peace is a stand-alone story in a separate universe which is completely unrelated to Forever War. It has some similar themes and an obviously similar title but it is not a sequel. The only sequel to Forever War is Forever Free. It is not necessary to read.(less)

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Welcome to the future...where the final war is being waged
....against war itself.

There is such a bounty of wonderful, insightful and important ideas stuffed into this novel that I find myself seriously bummed that weak storytelling and plodding central plot flow marred my enjoyment enough to keep me from awarding this a 4th star.

Still, from a component standpoint, this is a collection of gems.


The Haves:

The Alliance, led by the U.S., but including most of what we would consider t

Following the resounding success of my Locus Quest, I faced a dilemma: which reading list to follow it up with? Variety is the spice of life, so I’ve decided to diversify and pursue six different lists simultaneously. This book falls into my HUGO WINNERS list.

This is the reading list that follows the old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I loved reading the Locus Sci-Fi Award winners so I'm going to crack on with the Hugo winners next (but only the post-1980 winners, I'll follow up with
May 24, 2015 rated it liked it
This is not a sequel to The Forever War.

Haldeman says it is not, in a statement at the beginning of the 1997 novel, that it is related in setting but not a sequel, and not really related that much.

So why the title?

Well, it’s about the storyline, a strangely intriguing idea that the reader doesn’t entirely get until near the end. Fans of his earlier Forever War, first published in 1974, will notice some similarities in the centralized welfare state and obligatory civil service, and in his casuall
Dec 17, 2012 rated it it was ok
Shelves: science-fiction
Never have I disagreed more with people who's opinions I respect. Forever Peace is a highly acclaimed and beloved book to many, but I disagree.

To begin with, this had nothing to do with The Forever War. So to market it as Forever War #2, sounds like a cash grab. That irritated me off the bat. The Forever War dealt with an interstellar war, where time dilation kept the players on an eternally shifting background.
It was a brilliant analogy for the futility of war, written by a Vietnam veteran to
Oct 11, 2017 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Pe la începutul anilor 2000, progresul nanotehnologiei a condus la descoperirea nanoforjelor, niște minunății care puteau crea aproape orice obiect material, de la mâncare până la bijuterii și alte produse de lux. Ce ar putea merge oare prost într-o lume în care oamenii nu mai sunt obligați să muncească (cu excepția celor trei ani obligatorii de stagiu militar) și statul le oferă cetățenilor cuminți o viață sigură și confortabilă fără ca aceștia să miște un deget? Ei bine, faptul că secretul nan ...more
Jun 15, 2013 rated it did not like it
Forever Peace: Wildly implausible and poorly conceived
For the life of me, I can’t understand why Forever Peace won the Hugo, Nebula, John W. Campbell Memorial Awards for Best SF novel in 1997. Certainly his earlier 1975 The Forever War is a beloved SF classic that deals with the Vietnam War, time paradoxes, and the absurdity of endless conflict. First off, this book is not a direct sequel, and is hardly related other than sharing a military SF theme. Even that connection is tenuous, so I can onl
Mike Moore
Sep 08, 2011 rated it liked it
This book starts slowly, then builds up a formidable foundation of ideas and possibilities before devolving to a fairly silly conclusion. In some ways I found it similar to works by the likes of Crichton or (Neal) Stephenson that build a fascinating world on an engaging premise, then rapidly and artificially generate and resolve a crisis to stand as a plot. I often wish that these authors could take the course of books that exist without plots of deadly peril or fearsome crisis... books like som ...more
Aug 18, 2009 rated it it was ok
This book is either the best "bad book" or the worst "good book" in science fiction, depending on your perspective. Its plot and structure are a jumbled mess: It basically reads like two separate novellas forced together into a single storyline. The first storyline revolves around the technological as well as psychological needs for fighting a near-future worldwide guerilla war, in which the powers behind a globalized World System must suppress desperate peasants who are on the losing end of tha ...more
Jul 30, 2012 rated it really liked it
A fascinating novel that effectively asks if war is an inevitable outcome of human nature and whether "to get rid of war, we have to become something other than human." About 100 years in the future, nanotechnology makes it unnecessary for peoples of the rich countries to work, but all citizens have to do a few years military service to deal with the pervasive revolutionary movements in the disenfranchised Third World countries under dictatorships in alliance with the dominant powers. The hero o ...more
Definitely not the quality of The Forever War. Don't get confused by the similar "Forever" title - this is not a second part of Forever War, it doesn't share the setting and is only vaguely based on similar ideas. (The second part of Forever War is Forever Free).

Nice story-telling. Characters are a bit extreme with suicidal tendencies and a good bit confusion. The last third reads rushed and the ending was a bit of a letdown.
Mar 29, 2011 rated it liked it
Forever Peace is an interesting book in itself, describing how the group mind from The Forever War/Forever Free could come about, but I didn't really engage with it very much emotionally. Partially because the main character, Julian, is self-destructive and emotionally off. It's self-defence, perhaps. It's not a headspace I want to spend much time in. At least it's reasonably well handled.

It isn't really connected to the other books very closely, either, which doesn't help, and the switching bet
Ben Babcock
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Miloș Dumbraci
Această carte are o grămadă de probleme și o singură calitate, faptul că se citește cu ușurință, scriitura fiind una naturală, fără fasoane (ceea ce eu apreciez). Nu are nici o legătură cu ”Războiul Etern” nici ca poveste/lume, nici la calitate sau la impact, alegerea titlului fiind evident motivată doar de scopul ”cash grab”. Probleme:
- nu e o carte, ci practic 2: la jumătate Halderman se plictisește și deraiază pe cu totul altă poveste;
- nu e un military scifi decât vag, la început, și acela p
Ahmad Sharabiani
Jun 29, 2016 rated it really liked it
Forever Peace (The Forever War #2), Joe Haldeman
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Jan 12, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book is a spiritual, if not narrative, sequel to Haldeman’s 1975 “Forever War”. Both novels won the Hugo & Nebula, and explore the theme of war’s futility, although from different perspectives and in separate story-worlds. Readers expecting a continuation of Forever War’s interstellar conflict or relativistic time dilation effects, will see that instead this story features a strictly terrestrial struggle between the wealthy nations, fueled by effortless nano-factory produced plenty, and ...more
Dec 31, 2008 rated it liked it
Recommends it for: People who liked The Forever War.
Though not a sequel to The Forever War, it's similar name and same author force the comparison to be made.

The basic idea of Forever Peace is that implants in people allow them to control military equipment remotely by being jacked in. The controllers can die, so they're not entirely removed. People can also interact with each other while jacked in, and this allows for a deeper connection than is possible through normal interaction: speaking, touching, connecting. The theme is that this deeper co
Buck Ward
Sep 27, 2013 rated it really liked it
As a preface to Forever Peace, Haldeman says, "This book is not a continuation of my 1975 novel The Forever War. From the author's point of view it is kind of a sequel..." From a readers point of view it has little to do with The Forever War, though it is usually listed as the second in a series. In terms of reading order, I think it doesn't matter at all which is read first.

Forever Peace is a kind of military sci-fi cyberpunk intrigue story. It isn't really cyberpunk in the same way as Gibson's
David Olier
Feb 05, 2017 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: cifi
La verdad es que me siento un poco decepcionado con este libro. El desarrollo, la tecnología, el análisis social,... todo me ha parecido impecable. De hecho, el trabajo especulativo sobre el impacto que tendría cierta tecnología sobre la guerra, la paz mundial y la sociedad me parece magnífico.

Sin embargo la trama me ha parecido un poco inocente y sin sobresaltos. Los giros son predecibles y la acción se desarrolla marcada por un claro guión visible detrás de cada movimiento. Todo sale como debe
Apr 02, 2008 rated it liked it
This is an science fiction story with a fascinating premise: the eradication of war through sensitizing individuals to powerful empathetic connections. Yeah, I know, but what is more intriguing to me is two opposing feelings that I took away from the book. One, I was overwhelmed and utterly convinced of the good in the idea. Two, I felt intensely guilty for witnessing the brainwashing of an entire (albeit fictional) world population. A thought-inspiring story that made up for in ideas what it la ...more
Jan 12, 2009 rated it it was ok
Shelves: scififantasy
I really liked the author's Forever War.

This one, however, not so much. It was, well, weird. Seemed very unfocused; starts out as an exploration into the future of modern warfare. Then into some sort of apocalyptic doomsday conspiracy thriller. Very superficial feeling.

From a sci-fi standpoint, I was never convinced he knew the science behind what he was talking about which is a big no-no!

Ah well. A basically enjoyable read, but I wouldn't seek it out.
Fred Hughes
Dec 14, 2011 rated it really liked it
Joe Haldeman books are what I call easy reads. The storys track fairly fast and there is minimal character development, but enough. Haldeman has a potty mouth sometimes which I don't find offensive but younger readers may not appreciate his vivid language.

All his books are entertaining and easily read. There is not too much complicated plot lines so again easy to read.

Mar 06, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Mai multe idei decit in prima carte. Cu toate ca nu au legatura una cu alta. Dar.. nu a avut aceeasi scinteie pentru mine ca anterioara. Oricum este de citit.
Matt Enlow
Jul 12, 2016 rated it it was amazing
My favorite book of the year. A great work of literature, rather than my typical "a great fantasy book" or "a great scifi book" or "a great way to kill time"
("read" as an audiobook)
Vesselin Metodiev
Oct 12, 2017 rated it did not like it
Shelves: did-not-finish
So much wasted potential.
Chris Dawe
Jan 17, 2018 rated it really liked it
Found it slow and hard to get into until about 150-200 pages in.

character introductions felt like they dragged on way to long and then the ending is summed up essentially in a couple pages. didn't feel satisfying at all.

Just not a fan of Haldeman's writing having read 2 of his books.
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Chris Walker
3.5 stars. The technological elements of the story are really intriguing, as is some of the social commentary, but ultimately the plot doesn't do either of them justice.

I came to Forever Peace with reasonably high hopes and expectations after being pleasantly surprised with The Forever War. I knew that it was more of a thematic sequel, but seeing as those themes (the pointlessness of war, alienation from one's society of origin, shifting social views toward sexuality) are of great interest to me
Jan 10, 2015 rated it it was ok
In the year 2043, our world is embroiled in a large-scale war between the Alliance, composed of industrialised Western nations, and the Ngumi, a loose coalition of developing nations without access to the nano-forging technology that contributes to much of the Alliance’s wealth. Our viewpoint into this war comes from Julian Class, a draftee who controls one of the remotely-operated mechanised units called soldierboys, a job that requires an intimate mind-link and cooperative effort with the rest ...more
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I thought, and I still think, that Joe Haldeman’s The Forever War, is one of the finest science fiction books ever written, or certainly of those I’ve read. I tend not to research much about authors I’ve first come into contact with so as to be able to approach that author’s writing with little more exposed to me than the author’s writing alone, and so it was an exciting discovery for me after so thoroughly enjoying The Forever War to find that there was a sequel (and I’ve since learned that t ...more
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Haldeman is the author of 20 novels and five collections. The Forever War won the Nebula, Hugo and Ditmar Awards for best science fiction novel in 1975. Other notable titles include Camouflage, The Accidental Time Machine and Marsbound as well as the short works "Graves," "Tricentennial" and "The Hemingway Hoax." Starbound is scheduled for a January release. SFWA pres
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