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L'obvie et l'obtus. Essais critiques 3

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Ce volume d’essais critiques est consacré aux domaines du visible (image, photo, peinture) et de la musique.

« Le sens symbolique s’impose à moi par une double détermination : il est intentionnel (c’est ce qu’a voulu dire l’auteur) et il est prélevé dans une sorte de lexique général, commun, des symboles : c’est un sens qui va au devant de moi. Je propose d’appeler ce signe
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Paperback, Points Essais, 288 pages
Published February 20th 1992 by Seuil (first published September 1st 1982)
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St-Loup
Jan 30, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Barthes can be truly amazing when he succeds in putting words on barely noticed sensations (like those that art can create). I cannot say I understood everything (the difference between the "phéno-chant" and the "géno-chant"? Sorry dude - sometimes I wonder whether French is truly my mother tongue), but I truly enjoyed a great part of what I understood. And his style is superb (mostly when he writes about the body).

("Ecoutez une basse russe [...] : quelque chose qui est directement le corps du
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Cody
What makes Barthes great—among many, many things—is his willingness and ability to allow rational thought to break down into ambiguity during moments that can’t be quantified, verbalized. This is when Barthes truly shines, as he always manages to pull out a thread of insight—analytical, visceral, or otherwise—that significantly illuminates the issue at hand. It is no wonder, then, why he turned to music at the end of his life, as the abstractness and visceral nature of music requires the critic ...more
Kourosh Ghaniyoun
بارت با خودش حرف مي زند، اما انتزاع اش قابل فهم است. گاهي نيز به زمزمه ميپردازد و خواننده را گنگ باقي مي گذارد كه "كجاي مطلب را نفهميدم كه اين چنين به بن بست خورده ام؟"
سخن بارت را دوست دارم؛ وقتي تحليل ميكند، خواندني است و عجيب است كه سخن فلسفي، كششي تا اين حد زياد داشته باشد. اما از نتيجه گيري هاي ناگهاني اش بيزارم، مثل وقتي كه از "امر فيلمي" حرف مي زند و آن را در يك "نما"ي واحد مي يابد.
Nima ُShoa
نمیدونم ولی وقتی بعد از کلی زور زدن، کتاب رو تموم کردم.
به جای اینکه خودِ کتاب درگیرم کنه، فکرم درگیر ترجمه بود!
واژگان تخصصی یه طرف، ولی این چیزی که اینجا اتفاق میوفته خودش نیاز به ترجمه داره.
ترجمه پر بود از کلمات غیر کاربردی و جملاتی با پیچیدگی زیاد و بیهوده، جوری که واقعا آدم رو دلزده میکنه.
Maria
Apr 09, 2014 rated it really liked it
This is the best review of this book I've found online. http://www.elhablador.com/resena8_3.htm. It explains in words I wish I'd have written why I think this is one of the very best books I've read recently.

Note: it is in spanish but I am sure you can find some way to translate it.
Ebrahim Geranpayeh
فکر میکنم قبلش باید مبانی نشانه شناسی میخوندم و بعد میومدم سراغ این. متنش یه خورده دشوار بود که شاید از ترجمه به نسبت ضعیف هم باشه. با این همه در کل خیلی خوب بود و نحوه برخورد ذهن با تصویر رو به خوبی توضیح میده. ...more
Ali
Apr 23, 2014 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
من با متنی گنگ مواجه هستم که با شناختی که از نویسنده دارم تکلفگرای مترجم را می رساند
Lia
Dec 16, 2008 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
some really great essays on the relationships between drawing, writing, music, and interpretation. includes grain of the voice.
Penny
Nov 05, 2008 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A listening that speaks......
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Roland Gérard Barthes was a French literary theorist, philosopher, linguist, critic, and semiotician. Barthes' ideas explored a diverse range of fields and he influenced the development of schools of theory including structuralism, semiotics, social theory, design theory, anthropology and post-structuralism.
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