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Better When He's Bad
(Welcome to the Point #1)
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New York Times and USA Today bestselling author Jay Crownover returns with a heart-stopping new series… Welcome to the Point.
There’s a difference between a bad boy and a boy who’s bad . . . meet Shane Baxter.
Sexy, dark, and dangerous, Bax isn’t just from the wrong side of the tracks, he is the wrong side of the tracks. A criminal, a thug, and a brawler, he’s the master of ...more
There’s a difference between a bad boy and a boy who’s bad . . . meet Shane Baxter.
Sexy, dark, and dangerous, Bax isn’t just from the wrong side of the tracks, he is the wrong side of the tracks. A criminal, a thug, and a brawler, he’s the master of ...more
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5 Bad stars!!!
After reading Rule, I’ve been a huge fan of Jay Crownover and her Marked Men. They are all good guys, maybe tattooed up and a little rough around the edges, but they’re good. Shane Baxter is not a good guy. He’s a bad guy. The blurb says it best: There’s a difference between a bad boy and a boy who’s bad.I love my antiheroes, my bad boys, so you know I loved Bax! With the exception of Rule (which is still my absolute favori ...more
‘some boys… they are just better when they’re bad.’
After reading Rule, I’ve been a huge fan of Jay Crownover and her Marked Men. They are all good guys, maybe tattooed up and a little rough around the edges, but they’re good. Shane Baxter is not a good guy. He’s a bad guy. The blurb says it best: There’s a difference between a bad boy and a boy who’s bad.I love my antiheroes, my bad boys, so you know I loved Bax! With the exception of Rule (which is still my absolute favori ...more
Title: Better When He's Bad
Series: Welcome To The Point
Author: Jay Crownover
Release Date: June 17, 2014
Rating: 4 stars
Cliffhanger:. No
HEA: (view spoiler)
Bad boys. The best book boyfriends’ inspirations ever thought of. They’re intense, extreme, smokin’ hot and dangerous. They come in all the shapes and sizes. They make good girls gone wild and that’s why they are loved, lusted after and desired. They make ovaries go boom! And Jay Crownover certainly excelled in creating ...more
4.5 BAD Stars
”You don’t need anyone to show you how to be good, you’re so much better when you’re bad.”
First things first, ever since Rule & Shaw I haven’t care for any of Jay’s heroines but Dovie was just WONDERFUL. Dovie wasn’t bitchy, she didn’t push Bax away, she was loyal and kind so thank you Dovie Pryce for making this an enjoyable experience.
My one issue was the good/bad thing was excessively used when we all know that Bax is Bax there is no need to label this fine piece of ass!
This ...more
”You don’t need anyone to show you how to be good, you’re so much better when you’re bad.”
First things first, ever since Rule & Shaw I haven’t care for any of Jay’s heroines but Dovie was just WONDERFUL. Dovie wasn’t bitchy, she didn’t push Bax away, she was loyal and kind so thank you Dovie Pryce for making this an enjoyable experience.
My one issue was the good/bad thing was excessively used when we all know that Bax is Bax there is no need to label this fine piece of ass!
This ...more
Feb 27, 2014
*J* Too Many Books Too Little Time
rated it
it was amazing
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4.5--I Like 'Em Bad--Stars!!
There was a recurring theme in this book....BAD!
Bax was BAD. He grew up on the wrong side of town. Had a drunk of a mom. He began stealing at a young age in order to survive. To put food on the table, a roof over his head. He gets in deep with the bad guys and a job gone wrong lands Bax in jail.
Five years later, Bax is out and he's on a mission. Find his best friend ...more
“You don’t need anyone to show you how to be good, you’re so much better when you’re bad.”
There was a recurring theme in this book....BAD!
Bax was BAD. He grew up on the wrong side of town. Had a drunk of a mom. He began stealing at a young age in order to survive. To put food on the table, a roof over his head. He gets in deep with the bad guys and a job gone wrong lands Bax in jail.
Five years later, Bax is out and he's on a mission. Find his best friend ...more
4 bad boy stars
“You survived in his world by being the best of the worst."
Jay Crownover has done it again! Love this lady's books! Short review this time:
Bax has just been released from prison after 5 years of being locked up. He wants to find his best friend Race to get some answers to questions about the night he was arrested, only Race is nowhere to be found. While looking for Race, Bax runs into Dovie, Race's younger half sister. Together the two of them team up to find Race, and t ...more
“You survived in his world by being the best of the worst."
Jay Crownover has done it again! Love this lady's books! Short review this time:
Bax has just been released from prison after 5 years of being locked up. He wants to find his best friend Race to get some answers to questions about the night he was arrested, only Race is nowhere to be found. While looking for Race, Bax runs into Dovie, Race's younger half sister. Together the two of them team up to find Race, and t ...more
4.5 I’ll be bad with you Stars
Bax, recently released from prison, is on a hunt for answers. He knows some shit went down the night he was arrested and needs to find his best friend Race.
Bax, on a mission, starts questioning people and finds out Race has been hanging out at with a girl from the Point name Dovie.
After breaking into her apartment, and getting attacked by Dovie he learns she is Race’s half-sister. Race told Dovie she can trust Bax, so she insist on helping him locate Race.
I wasn’t ...more
Bax, recently released from prison, is on a hunt for answers. He knows some shit went down the night he was arrested and needs to find his best friend Race.
Bax, on a mission, starts questioning people and finds out Race has been hanging out at with a girl from the Point name Dovie.
After breaking into her apartment, and getting attacked by Dovie he learns she is Race’s half-sister. Race told Dovie she can trust Bax, so she insist on helping him locate Race.
I wasn’t ...more
Jun 18, 2014
Kelli C
rated it
it was amazing
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review of another edition
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mafia-issues,
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taboo-love,
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bad-boys,
fab-writing,
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thriller
”You don’t need anyone to show you how to be good, you’re so much better when you’re bad.”
YES! Truer words have never been written! Shane Baxter....
There absolutely no doubt he is bad, and when I say bad I mean in attitude, in appearance, in activity. You name it and he embodies it! He walks out of the pokey after 5 years and instead of looking at a "new lease on life," he is looking for answers and he will get them no matter what actions he has to take.
Looking for answers puts him on the front ...more
YES! Truer words have never been written! Shane Baxter....
There absolutely no doubt he is bad, and when I say bad I mean in attitude, in appearance, in activity. You name it and he embodies it! He walks out of the pokey after 5 years and instead of looking at a "new lease on life," he is looking for answers and he will get them no matter what actions he has to take.
Looking for answers puts him on the front ...more
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DNF 43%
Im gonna have to part ways with this author. Just wasnt meant to be. Bax and Dovie actually werent bad and there was a good suspense/mystery element with what happened with Race. But when I dont care how the story ends thats normally my sign to give up and save myself some time
...more
May 03, 2014
Catarina
rated it
really liked it
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4 “Better When They’re Bad” Stars!
Bax isn’t a golden boy. He knows it and don’t have any intentions of changing soon.
Or ever.
Having spent the last 5 years in jail, now that he’s finally out he’s looking for answers. And that starts with finding is missing best-friend who owns him a lot of explanations, Race.
He soon finds out there’s another person looking for him, Dovie, Race’s half-sister. She is sweet, good and everything he shouldn’t want but right from the start she sees something in him ...more
Bax isn’t a golden boy. He knows it and don’t have any intentions of changing soon.
Or ever.
Having spent the last 5 years in jail, now that he’s finally out he’s looking for answers. And that starts with finding is missing best-friend who owns him a lot of explanations, Race.
He soon finds out there’s another person looking for him, Dovie, Race’s half-sister. She is sweet, good and everything he shouldn’t want but right from the start she sees something in him ...more
Mar 06, 2014
Aestas Book Blog
marked it as to-read
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review of another edition
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HOLY HELL - this looks GOOD!!!! I can't wait for it!!
Sexy, dark, and dangerous, Bax isn’t just from the wrong side of the tracks, he is the wrong side of the tracks. A criminal, a thug, and a brawler, he’s the master of bad choices, until one such choice landed him in prison for five years. Now Bax is out and looking for answers, and he doesn’t care what he has to do or who he has to hurt to get them. B ...more
There’s a difference between a bad boy and a boy who’s bad... meet Shane Baxter.
Sexy, dark, and dangerous, Bax isn’t just from the wrong side of the tracks, he is the wrong side of the tracks. A criminal, a thug, and a brawler, he’s the master of bad choices, until one such choice landed him in prison for five years. Now Bax is out and looking for answers, and he doesn’t care what he has to do or who he has to hurt to get them. B ...more
Oct 20, 2016
Aisling Zena
rated it
liked it
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review of another edition
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3.5 stars
4.5 Stars
Better When He’s Bad sucked me in from the first page with its oh-so-sexy antihero, Bax! Danger, a fiery hot romance, and captivating characters start this series off with a bang!
Shane Baxter or “Bax” has just been released from a five year stint in prison knowing he’s been setup. Revenge and payback is high on his list of priorities. But the first person he goes looking for is his best friend, Race. When Bax finds out that Race went missing the minute Bax got out, he sets out to find h ...more
Better When He’s Bad sucked me in from the first page with its oh-so-sexy antihero, Bax! Danger, a fiery hot romance, and captivating characters start this series off with a bang!
Shane Baxter or “Bax” has just been released from a five year stint in prison knowing he’s been setup. Revenge and payback is high on his list of priorities. But the first person he goes looking for is his best friend, Race. When Bax finds out that Race went missing the minute Bax got out, he sets out to find h ...more
Feb 27, 2014
aksana - 4 - 8 - 15 - 16 - 23 - 42 -
rated it
it was amazing
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review of another edition
4.5 Stars
I don't have time for a proper review because I'm heading to vacation soon.
But I can say that I loved Bax. He was the perfect mix of sweetness and assholeness.
In the beginning I thought that Dovie has good chances to become annoying. But
in the end she wasn't annoying at all.
Still I think she could have been a little more badass. The story has some nice twists near the end.
But I have to admit that sometimes I had problems to understand what was going on with Race/ Novac/ Hartman and al ...more
The cover was YUM, Brax was delicious bad boy sadly I couldn't feel connected with them! No chemistry and UST!
And even worse, even the sex scene was sad!
Stopped at Chapter 8.
**BR with my darling girlies -- glad we did it**
...more
And even worse, even the sex scene was sad!
Stopped at Chapter 8.
**BR with my darling girlies -- glad we did it**
...more
4- Bad boys are more fun - Stars
Shane "Bax" Baxter is a bad boy....
He likes fast cars.....He has been working for a bad guy named Novak and doing a little grand theft auto.
That has apparently gotten him in trouble and he's getting out of jail after five years.
He's determined to find out why exactly he was set up by his best friend Race, especially since he would never have expected Race to set him up. Unfortunately when he gets out, Race has gone missing and the only person he locates ...more
Shane "Bax" Baxter is a bad boy....
He likes fast cars.....He has been working for a bad guy named Novak and doing a little grand theft auto.
That has apparently gotten him in trouble and he's getting out of jail after five years.
He's determined to find out why exactly he was set up by his best friend Race, especially since he would never have expected Race to set him up. Unfortunately when he gets out, Race has gone missing and the only person he locates ...more
Mar 12, 2014
Val ⚓️ Shameless Non-Snowflake ⚓️
rated it
really liked it
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review of another edition
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4-4.5 Stars
I really, really liked this one. Bax was a badass with confidence, tattoos, and a touch of crazy - color me happy.
Also, I really liked the plot and (shockingly enough), I liked Dovie (despite her awful name).
...TANGENT - I don't know what is up with Jay Crownover and her names. Rule. Jet. Nash. Rowdy. Rome. Ayden. Now Dovie.
And Reeve.
And Race.
I know, Madonna. There, there.
I get that she's being all edgy and what not, and I totally dig unique names and all that jazz...I just have ...more
I really, really liked this one. Bax was a badass with confidence, tattoos, and a touch of crazy - color me happy.
Also, I really liked the plot and (shockingly enough), I liked Dovie (despite her awful name).
...TANGENT - I don't know what is up with Jay Crownover and her names. Rule. Jet. Nash. Rowdy. Rome. Ayden. Now Dovie.
And Reeve.
And Race.
I know, Madonna. There, there.
I get that she's being all edgy and what not, and I totally dig unique names and all that jazz...I just have ...more
4.5 Bad boy stars
Ms. Crownover:
Thank you so much for coming out of whatever rock you've been writing that last 2 mediocre Marked Men series books under to deliver a book that reminds me why I fell in love with your writing. I was beginning to lose faith and then BAM you bring me Bax.
That Bax was one sexy motherfucker. LOVED him. Yes he was a bad boy BUT he wasn't bad in a way that wasn't as my friends say "Polly Friendly". He was the right type of bad.
Few of my fav quotes:
"I've never has ...more
Ms. Crownover:
Thank you so much for coming out of whatever rock you've been writing that last 2 mediocre Marked Men series books under to deliver a book that reminds me why I fell in love with your writing. I was beginning to lose faith and then BAM you bring me Bax.
That Bax was one sexy motherfucker. LOVED him. Yes he was a bad boy BUT he wasn't bad in a way that wasn't as my friends say "Polly Friendly". He was the right type of bad.
Few of my fav quotes:
"I've never has ...more
Mar 07, 2014
Anna
rated it
it was amazing
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review of another edition
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❤️you don't need anyone to show you how to be good, you're so much better when you're bad❤️
Shane Baxter - full of every secret, every promise, and every temptation that can make a good girl do really bad things and enjoy every second of it.
Rule is still my #1 but damn Bax !!!! He owned this ! ...more
Shane Baxter - full of every secret, every promise, and every temptation that can make a good girl do really bad things and enjoy every second of it.
Rule is still my #1 but damn Bax !!!! He owned this ! ...more
4.5 Bad is so good!! STARS
Wow, I knew I loved bad boys
but this first book in Ms. Crownover's Point series proved to me the badder, the better.
A really fast, action packed read with great characters that all takes place in the Point, the darker and seedier side of life where it's every man for himself.
This story was about Shane “Bax” Baxter...beautiful, dangerous, dark and wild and Dovie Pryce, a good, fierce and kind young woman who is the shining light in an otherwise very dark place. ...more
Wow, I knew I loved bad boys
but this first book in Ms. Crownover's Point series proved to me the badder, the better.
A really fast, action packed read with great characters that all takes place in the Point, the darker and seedier side of life where it's every man for himself.
This story was about Shane “Bax” Baxter...beautiful, dangerous, dark and wild and Dovie Pryce, a good, fierce and kind young woman who is the shining light in an otherwise very dark place. ...more
★I received an ARC on behalf of the publisher in exchange for an honest review. Thank you!!★
A bad boy from the wrong side of the tracks. And a beauty trying to escape a tainted life.
After being framed for a crime he did not commit, 5 years later, “Bax” Baxter wants answers. As he journeys to unravel the truth, what’s a guy to do when the only person with the answers is MIA and the closest is a woman who claims to be his salvation’s sister? Not to mention, when that sister happens to be smoking h ...more
A bad boy from the wrong side of the tracks. And a beauty trying to escape a tainted life.
After being framed for a crime he did not commit, 5 years later, “Bax” Baxter wants answers. As he journeys to unravel the truth, what’s a guy to do when the only person with the answers is MIA and the closest is a woman who claims to be his salvation’s sister? Not to mention, when that sister happens to be smoking h ...more
Some boys are just better when they're bad, and while Jay Crownover wrote a bunch of bad boys in her Marked Men and Saints of Denver series, none of them was as bad and as unapologetic about it as Shane Baxter. Still, even Bax managed to steal my heart: a jerk with just the right amount of good and love in him to make it impossible not to fall in love with him! I liked the way that we got more and more glimpses at different parts of his personality as the story progressed, and we saw him let go,
...more
Of course it's 5 and a half badass bad boy being just bad stars duh?!
review coming, coming, coming....
Holy shit, I say!
Where the fuck have I been looking until now?! Not in my TBR apparently!!!
Well, what’s done it’s done, no regrets cause I’ve MISSED this jam last year!!!!
Ok, now that I’m somewhat relaxed, on the outside anyway, I have to breathe this out – this is THE BEST book I’ve had the pleasure of reading. There aren’t a lot of “those” books in my fiction world so this means a fuckin lot ...more
review coming, coming, coming....
Holy shit, I say!
Where the fuck have I been looking until now?! Not in my TBR apparently!!!
Well, what’s done it’s done, no regrets cause I’ve MISSED this jam last year!!!!
Ok, now that I’m somewhat relaxed, on the outside anyway, I have to breathe this out – this is THE BEST book I’ve had the pleasure of reading. There aren’t a lot of “those” books in my fiction world so this means a fuckin lot ...more
“You don’t need anyone to show you how to be good, you’re so much better when you’re bad.”
5 Fabulous, Flirty, Fun, Fast and Furious Stars!
Jay Crownover hit a home run and then some with this book! It was a perfect combination of action, romance, grit, and some serious smokin' sex scenes!
First we have our heroine Dovie!
Dovie is the epitome of what is good. She has been dealt some terrible cards. Abandoned by her parents, she has been thrown into the foster care system. She has learned to keep ...more
5 Fabulous, Flirty, Fun, Fast and Furious Stars!
Jay Crownover hit a home run and then some with this book! It was a perfect combination of action, romance, grit, and some serious smokin' sex scenes!
First we have our heroine Dovie!
Dovie is the epitome of what is good. She has been dealt some terrible cards. Abandoned by her parents, she has been thrown into the foster care system. She has learned to keep ...more
Review to come!!!
3/5 stars
I really like some aspects of this book but at the same time, I really don't like some aspects of this book. This is going to be one of those extremely contradictory reviews in which I say that I love the book in one paragraph and say that I dislike it in the next. I'm sorry, but my feelings and I just aren't aren't on speaking terms at the moment. So an advanced sorry for ...more
“I’m never going to ask you to be a good guy, Bax, because I fell in love with you just the way you are. Bad.”
I really like some aspects of this book but at the same time, I really don't like some aspects of this book. This is going to be one of those extremely contradictory reviews in which I say that I love the book in one paragraph and say that I dislike it in the next. I'm sorry, but my feelings and I just aren't aren't on speaking terms at the moment. So an advanced sorry for ...more
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01/04/2017 -- Re-read
Same rating 4.5 Stars. So, this author is really very good. She did a very good job with this story. We understand the backdrop without belaboring the point. She created two really interesting characters that you love and hate. She creates an environment of suspense. All seemingly effortlessly. So, why didn't I really like the 2nd book? I'm convinced that not every character deserves a book dedicated to them. Neither Race nor Brysen deserved a book -- therefore their story w ...more
Same rating 4.5 Stars. So, this author is really very good. She did a very good job with this story. We understand the backdrop without belaboring the point. She created two really interesting characters that you love and hate. She creates an environment of suspense. All seemingly effortlessly. So, why didn't I really like the 2nd book? I'm convinced that not every character deserves a book dedicated to them. Neither Race nor Brysen deserved a book -- therefore their story w ...more
4.5 **I love BAD boys** stars!!
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I wanted to read this one for a while now, but I thought the ebook was a bit too expensive. So I bought the pb and waited until vacation time to read it.
In the introduction the author says she had trouble with liking Brax and that it took time. I must different because I liked em from the start to be honest. Don't know if that’s the normal case? I'm too used to reading about bad boys that they don’t bother me, or that it takes time to like em. I like em always at least normally.
It was a wild, d ...more
In the introduction the author says she had trouble with liking Brax and that it took time. I must different because I liked em from the start to be honest. Don't know if that’s the normal case? I'm too used to reading about bad boys that they don’t bother me, or that it takes time to like em. I like em always at least normally.
It was a wild, d ...more
Well, I really tried, but apparently I'm a quitter, made it to 70%. That's a good thing because I don't rate books I haven't finished.
I can't take the long paragraphs anymore
and the "yes he's bad but he has a good soul" thing
don't even get me started on the sex scenes.
...more
I can't take the long paragraphs anymore
and the "yes he's bad but he has a good soul" thing
don't even get me started on the sex scenes.
...more
Intense!!! Now I have to red the others too!!!
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