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3.73  ·  Rating details ·  4,579 ratings  ·  373 reviews
From the internationally bestselling author of Enders Game comes the riveting finale to the story of Rigg, a teenager who possesses a secret talent that allows him to see the paths of peoples pasts.

In Pathfinder, Rigg joined forces with another teen with special talents on a quest to find Riggs sister and discover the true depth and significance of their powers. Then Riggs
Hardcover, 608 pages
Published November 4th 2014 by Simon Pulse
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Nov 08, 2013 rated it liked it
PG-13 for some language, some graphic images, and some sexual references.

I'm not smart enough to:
a) have read this book.
b) rate this book 5 stars.
c) understand this book.

However, I liked it. Problems arose, problems were solved, questions were asked and answered, and lots of stuff happened.
Nov 14, 2014 rated it liked it
Shelves: own-it

This is definitely not Card's best work. There was more retelling of the story from the previous two books than I care for. I read the previous books and do not want to go over it again, I want new story.

As in the previous book, the dialogue between the characters got old. They spend a lot of time bickering over pointless things that have nothing to do with the story. After we meet Wheaton and his daughter, the characters all degenerate to the same personality. Almost every character makes snide
Nov 16, 2014 rated it it was ok
I wish I could go back in time and keep myself from reading this series.
It really needed editing. 3/4 of the book was pointless filler and endless monotonous conversation where everyone had the same voice.
Even the conclusion felt lacking. By the end I didn't care if the destroyers succeeded or not.
Nov 30, 2013 rated it really liked it
I was attending Orson Scott Card's Writing Workshop this year when I heard him mentioning how difficult it was for him to wrap up writing this book. Seems that he had this inspiring idea to write a new series, one that he truly thought was one of his best, and then had only one, big problem: he had no idea how to end the story.

I was shocked to hear this. The Pathfinder series was easily my favorite of his since the original Ender's Game. Yet ss creative as this project was - and he had written
Sep 11, 2015 rated it it was ok
Meh. I finished this book because I felt like I had to finish up the series.

My conclusion after reading this and several other of Card's recent books is that he is wonderful at inventing compelling worlds, but terrible at finishing stories. All of the series of his I've read (Alvin Maker, Ender's Game/shadow, pathfinder, gatekeeper) have started out really well, but at some point in each of these, I have found myself really disappointed. I think he maybe just needs to learn when to leave
Brian Begley
Jun 05, 2015 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
This is the worst book Card has ever written. Worse than Empire. That may be slightly unfair to this book, which is merely the culmination of the worst series he's ever written. While I didn't love book 1, there were a lot of possibilities. Book 2 seemed to be steering into terrible danger of there were a lot of red flags, but I had faith that Card had a vision for this story, and the redemption of the third book would be worth it.

Part of the problem is the YA label. Everything Card has ever
Oct 26, 2014 rated it it was ok

First things first go back and reread the 2nd book before you read this one. The plot is extremely intricate and complex (but not really in a good way) and if there is longer than a month gap between the books you'll forget too much.

Actual Review:

So much potential, wasted. All the cool threads, concepts, and storylines don't really reslove themselves, or when they do its deus ex machina. I had my issues with the first two books, but the suspense, characters, and general sci-fi setting
Dec 31, 2014 rated it really liked it
Good, but I didn't enjoy it as much as the first two books in the series.
Jan 13, 2015 rated it really liked it
I thoroughly enjoyed the Pathfinder series by Orson Scott Card. Following a story through a well contrived set of time traveling rules (or lack thereof), while juggling the moral responsibility and accountability for such an ability remained interesting throughout all three books. The series started with discovery of the abilities, approached the surface level implications, and then explored the boundaries of the rules until ultimately in this third book Visitors, finding obligation and peace ...more
Dec 17, 2014 rated it liked it
This book was quite the letdown for me, but mainly because I had such high hopes for it. The ending of Ruins was so engaging and then Card decided to write 600 pages of...stuff. As Card is known to do, the plot in Visitors often took the sidekick role to the exploration of ancient civilizations or irrelevant side stories. However, the book kept me interested enough throughout and the ending was satisfying enough (with a side of meh).

Sadly, this book convinced me of what I have been denying for a
Oct 29, 2014 rated it really liked it
Good conclusion but left me with a headache thinking about the whole time space conundrum
Crystal Bensley
Apr 26, 2016 rated it it was amazing
What a great series! Time travel in a confusing way but still an excellent story!
Nov 24, 2014 rated it it was ok
Very disconnected. Maybe a little too much time travel? Just like many of Card's stories, it seems new rules are created to allow solutions. Frustrating end.
Aug 23, 2019 rated it liked it
Shelves: 2019
It was interesting for a while, but the ending just kind of flopped. It also got bogged down with the nitty gritties of time time travel.

I also noticed two errors:
Ram Odin responded to the exact works the mice were saying to Noxon even though he couldnt hear them.

Noxon referred to seeing Deborah get killed as the moment when he realized that he loved her. Except... he never saw that because he sent a note back and erased that future from happening.

I had really been enjoying this series, and a
May 22, 2019 rated it liked it
Too much clutter. Very untidy.
Dec 09, 2015 rated it liked it
Shelves: books-i-own
How to explain this book in a coherent way......Well, first off if you like time travel, and the physics behind potential time travel then grab this series. Visitors is much like Ruins and Pathfinder where the time travel aspects of the characters really take precedence over everything. I honestly felt like I was reading a book on cause and effect in relation to time travel. Ultimately it seemed that throughout the whole series, the characters were just trying to figure out exactly how their own ...more
May 25, 2015 rated it it was ok
Shelves: fantasy
This is the Orson Scott Card book that finally broke me. Yes, it took me FOREVER to realize that Card is brilliant at his first books & sucks after he's established his worlds, so I hung in there as a fan. The man wrote the book that for years was my favorite book of all time (Ender's Game). I will no longer purchase any Card books. He's not such a terrible writer that I won't READ them. But put my money down? No.

This book suffers from the same problems as its predecessors. Insane amounts of
Rigg, Loaf, Umbo, and Param continue their adventure in time and eventually space in this third volume of the Series that began with Pathfinder. This time they must find a way to prevent Garden from being destroyed. They need to travel both back and forward through time, as well as through space to try to accomplish this goal. Along the way they will also need to understand the consequences of creating doubles of themselves and other risks of time travel.

I picked this book up as I enjoyed the
Aug 07, 2017 rated it really liked it
Fantastic book, great series. I'd give the trilogy as a whole about 4.25 stars overall. And I should point out that at least one of its deficiencies is that it just didn't last long enough! OSC seemed to rush a little bit through this third book; maybe that's because he had a deadline to meet or whatnot. Or, maybe he just knew the story he wanted to tell and he told it his way. Either way, it left me supremely satisfied, yet still wanting more. And isn't that the goal of all the great ...more
Mar 01, 2015 rated it really liked it
Better than book 2, which suffered from being the trilogy's bridging book, but not quite back to the level of book 1. Way too much attempting to explain the time-travel physics, which simply MAKE NO SENSE, and all attempts to prove otherwise just make it worse.

And the ending wrapped up several seemingly insoluble plot threads in a nice neat bow -- and very quickly, despite them having previously dragged on for hundreds of pages.

Nonetheless, I'll round this 3.5 star book up to 4. Despite the
Aug 07, 2018 rated it really liked it
This was a fine conclusion to a wonderful series. It may have wrapped up a little to quickly in the end, but the solution to their problems was satisfying, and creative. Good characters, interesting universe, clever abilities. I highly recommend this series. It's not Ender, but it's very good.
Dec 30, 2018 rated it liked it
Started better than it finished. Got kind of convoluted and bogged down in the technicalities and possibilities of time travel. By the time we got to the end, it didn't feel resolved properly. Still, it started fun enough as a series and I don't regret reading it.
May 22, 2017 rated it liked it
I didn't care for this one quite as much as the first book in the trilogy. It got very convoluted with all of the back and forth in time and re-doing of things. The mice were very funny, though. Overall a good read, just not my favorite of the series.
Dec 31, 2017 rated it did not like it
While I greatly enjoy most works by O.S.C., this book is the first book to truly dash all of my expectations. The characters were all one dimensional, and love stories popped into existence with absolutely no pretext, plot devices were used to skip the hassle of the characters having to travel great distances, chapters having no bearing on the plot spanned multiple different chapters, and the ending was anticlimactic. While the characters had interesting abilities, they had no distinction is ...more
Feb 26, 2017 rated it really liked it
Great ending for the trylogy. That's all that was needed to be said about this book.
Mar 16, 2014 rated it liked it
I gave the previous two books 4 stars, but I found this one to be a bit too chaotic. I had the feeling there was quite a bit of superfluous stuff in here. E.g., I really liked the stories of Rigg getting to know the different folds, but he did not do anything with the information he learned there. The first prehistoric bit was interesting, but really, why that whole second piece? Plus the stupid part where (view spoiler) ...more
Travis Bow
Jan 18, 2016 rated it liked it
Not boring, per se, but a lot more focus on thought experiments (what would happen if a community evolved this way, what would it mean if time flowed backwards, how would time-travel help you win a war) than story. While the story does happen, new main characters are kind of thrown in at the end and things are tied up a little abruptly. Enjoyable, but not enthralling.

Favorite quotes:
"Pretty soon you won't even need me to tell you to answer your own questions yourself,"said Olivenko. "Though I'm
This isn't proper review, because I just copied and pasted some of my thoughts from my phone.

⊙ param And olivenko should have had much bigger roles

⊙umbo finally grew up and became mature while not complaining and whining about why he isnt rigg

⊙Noxon was soo boring, his chapters were extremely long and slow

⊙ the young ram Odin on the backwords ship was funny and sarcastic like the mice from odinfold

⊙even loaf played less of a role, even vadesh even tho he is weird, he was a good character

⊙ rigg
Snark. Lots and lots and lots of snark. Lots of bright characters talking to each other in what is supposed to be a witty clever way that is just plain snarky. Page after page after page of snark. And mixed in with that is some interesting ideas about the nature of time and causality. And possible extra abilities that were quite a bit different then I'd seen anywhere else. Also a bit of a nod to Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus, though in that book it was done quite a bit ...more
Kurt Madsen
Jan 25, 2015 rated it it was ok
A rushed, very uneven finish to the series. This book felt like it was the catch-all for all potential plot tangents Card thought up in his brainstorming sessions.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out he had originally planned a much longer more epic series, but got bored with the premise and finished it all off at once.

I also got the impression that Card had Ender's xenocide at the back of his mind while writing and either was trying to play the apologist or atone for them.
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.

Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy series

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Pathfinder (3 books)
  • Pathfinder (Pathfinder, #1)
  • Ruins (Pathfinder, #2)

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