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A World Without Princes

(The School for Good and Evil #2)

Soman Chainani (Goodreads Author)

4.07 · Rating details · 25,262 ratings · 2,514 reviews

In the epic sequel to the New York Times bestselling novel, The School for Good and Evil, Sophie and Agatha are home, living out their Ever After. But life isn’t quite the fairy tale they expected.

When Agatha secretly wishes she’d chosen a different happy ending, she reopens the gates to the School for Good and Evil. But the world she and Sophie once knew has changed.

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Dec 18, 2016 Regan rated it liked it · review of another edition

2.75

Torn on this, I feel like it presented a lot of very interesting things about gender but did not follow through -- which can make it problematic. But I also feel like it might be resolved in the next book? So rating is low for now until I continue on.

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Nov 17, 2018 emma rated it did not like it · review of another edition

Shelves: fantasy, owned, children-s, unpopular-opinion, couldn-t-wait-to-read, reviewed, nope, fairytale, 1-star, comments

This is the weirdest, worst reverse-sexism bullsh*t I have ever read in my life.

I have decided that I do not want to write a lot about this book, because 1) it’s been many months since I read it and 2) I do not care to think about it. So I will attempt to convey the synopsis, and I will attempt to convey the breadth of my disappointment.

At the end of the last book, BFFs Agatha and Sophie chose each other over princes and went off to live happily ever after by themselves. It’s the feminist fairyt ...more

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Jan 25, 2015 Cristina Monica rated it did not like it · review of another edition

Shelves: boring, did-not-finish, middle-grade

I'm DNFing it: There is only so much silliness, secrets, doubts and confusion I can take.

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Aug 01, 2013 Faye, la Patata rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: adorable-love-interest, young-adult, mythological, finding-oneself, supernatural, heart-doing-blackflips, good-heroine, fantasy, someone-hold-me, packs-a-punch

Final Rating: 4.5 stars (rounded to 5 on GR)

Disclaimer: There may be minor spoilers of book 1 in this review. Consider yourselves warned if you haven't read the first book.

And Sophie and Agatha lived happily ever after, for girls don't need princes for love to call.
No, they don't need princes in their fairy tales at all.

When I first read The School for Good and Evil sometime last year, I appreciated so much how it portrayed very dark themes in a seemingly light, humorous, and fluffy tone. ...more

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Apr 01, 2014 Natalie Monroe rated it it was amazing

Shelves: fearless-protagonists, kick-ass-heroines, girl-squad, fabulous-five-stars, i-spy-something-pointy, my-inner-feminist-cries-with-joy

Minor spoilers for book one

If you know me, you'll know that I very rarely give books five stars. Even if I really love it, I normally mark it as a 4.5 and call it a day. Which is why it came as such a surprise that I slapped a 5-star on A World Without Princes right off the bat. I went in with sky-high expectations, considering how much I loved The School for Good and Evil, and it broke every single one of them.

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Jun 19, 2014 Jennifer rated it did not like it

Well, this series went off the deep end really fast.

For those who don’t know, the first book in this series, THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD AND EVIL, was about two girls who are not quite what they seem surviving in a duo of fairy tale schools which had simplistic ideas the nature of good and evil and simplistic ideas about gender roles. I would have ventured to call the first book progressive … Agatha and Sophie learn that they don’t need a fairy tale prince to be happy and that relationships with other Well, this series went off the deep end really fast.

For those who don’t know, the first book in this series, THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD AND EVIL, was about two girls who are not quite what they seem surviving in a duo of fairy tale schools which had simplistic ideas the nature of good and evil and simplistic ideas about gender roles. I would have ventured to call the first book progressive … Agatha and Sophie learn that they don’t need a fairy tale prince to be happy and that relationships with other girls can be just as important as relationships with boys.

However, second installment, A WORLD WITHOUT PRINCES, is virulently anti-feminist and reverses the themes and messages of the first book in many ways. IN AWWP, the fairy tale schools which had previously been split into Good and Evil are now split into male and female. The school for girls is now run by a straw feminist, Dean Sader who apparently hates all men because she was kicked out of the school ten years ago for being sadistic and incompetent and later replaced by her brother who the book tells us repeatedly was much, much more competent. Dead Sader, like most straw feminists, wants to enslave all men. She also tells the girls to do whatever makes them happy which leads to some of them shaving their heads and eating chocolate. We are supposed to believe that girls doing whatever makes them happy is evil. But of course, we later find out that Dean Sader was doing all this because she wanted to get a guy. I am not making this stuff up.

Meanwhile, the school for boys is a hotbed of misogyny and most of the boys seem to want to literally kill the girls – Sophie and Agatha in particular. Tedros, the male hero who is splashed prominently across the cover of the book, spends most of the novel literally trying to murder Sophie and Agatha. The narrative seems to want us to believe that if only Sophie and Agatha had been a little nicer to poor Tedros then he wouldn’t have gone down this dark path. The responsibility for Tedros’s morality is placed almost entirely upon the girls rather than on Tedros himself. But the only wrong that Agatha and Sophie seem to have done to Tedros (or at least the one he keeps complaining about) was rejecting him as a romantic interest. The narrative keeps justifying Tedros’s violent fantasies by telling us how bad it felt for him to be rejected. In many ways, this is much scarier than the straw feminist crap of the girls’ school. At least we can recognize “enslave all boys” as a ridiculous fantasy that has no place in the real world. But when some men are rejected romantically they often DO become violent towards women. Sometimes they kill them. This is a real life situation and the author’s attempts at justifying it by placing the blame on the girls is sickening. The fact that the target audience for this book is pre-teen girls makes the book’s attitudes towards women all the more disturbing.

The central conflict in terms of interpersonal relationships is that Agatha has to “choose” between Sophie and Tedros. There is no real reason why Agatha should have to choose between having a best friend and having a boyfriend other than … oh yeah, the book is really freaking sexist. I think what the author WANTS to do is to present Agatha, Sophie, and Tedros as being in a bisexual love triangle where Agatha has to choose between Sophie and Tedros (and Sophie also has to choose between Agatha and Tedros … and Tedros has to choose between Agatha and Sophie). But since this is a Middle Grade novel, the author is too scared to actually DO this. There are two same-sex kisses in this series and yet the book can’t quite bring itself to suggest that the love that Agatha and Sophie feel for one another could be romantic.

The book goes on for far too long and there is a lot of magic school stuff that Harry Potter frankly does a lot better (this was the case in the first book as well). After awhile, there is some gender bending which I found to be one of the more compelling aspects of the book. I know it may seem like I’ve focused overly much on the gender relations in this review, but this stuff is what the story is all about. You can’t read a page of this book without running into some sexist claptrap. I don’t know whether or not the author even intends to be sexist – I just think that he’s one of those writers who doesn’t always have a great handle on what his work is saying thematically (there were hints of this in the first book as well).

There are some good points about the book – the characterization tends to be decent, especially the characterization of Sophie in my opinion. The world building is pretty good and there are a lot of cute little ideas about the magic schools. There’s an exciting story somewhere in here if you can somehow get past the inherent sexism of the storyline. It’s a real shame that the story went the way it did, because a novel about the girls and boys being separated into warring schools could have been so good if handled correctly.

I was going to give the novel two stars despite its considerable problems because there are some promising aspects of it. But then I got to the end. The ending makes no sense. It also completely reverses the themes and messages of the first book. The ending was what made me bump this book down to one star.
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Feb 24, 2018 Jessi ♥️ H. Vojsk rated it really liked it · review of another edition

ATTENTION: spoilers for book one!

“Nothing in this world was ever certain. Princes could become as frightening as ogres.
Princesses could become villains.
Best friends could become enemies.”

Story ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
„And Sophie and Agatha lived happily ever after, for girls don't need princes for love to call...
No, they don't need princes in their fairy tales at all”
Finally Agatha and Sophie have a happy end together. They’re back in their home town living their old life.
They don’t need princes to ...more

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Jun 06, 2014 Tomoe Hotaru rated it it was ok

Shelves: fantasy, coulda-been-better, middle-grade, fairy-tale

Whyyyyyy??

What happened to youuuuu??

Book. Book, I had such high hopes for you. You ended so magnificently before ... you gave me hope that there was a book out there, where girls can be friends! Where girls can put other girls before boys! Where love isn't always about the type that makes your body parts tingle and swell, but also about fighting for each other and making sacrifices for friends.

You gave me hope that somewhere out there was a book, geared for younger readers, where black isn't alw ...more

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Aug 13, 2013 Aras Redan rated it did not like it

Shelves: bad-in-the-book-exchange

I NEED THIS BOOK NOW, LIKE IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY, AND I REALLY NEED AGATHA AND TEDROS TO BE TOGETHER AND I LOVE THIS SERIES BECAUSE IT MAKES ME LAUGH BUT CRY, LIKE I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL APRIL NEXT YEAR.

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Apr 06, 2014 Shannon marked it as to-read

Shelves: male-author, ebook, middle-grade, fairy-tales, fantasy, retellings, on-hold, stalled-series, not-in-the-mood

OMG I JUST READ THE TOP COMMUNITY REVIEWS AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT YELLING ABOUT THIS BOOK IS THE BEST WAY TO PORTRAY YOUR FEELINGS REALLY WE SHOULD ALL YELL ALL THE TIME AND WHO NEEDS PUNCTUATION MARKS AMIRITE EXCEPT FOR EXCLAMATION POINTS BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY OF THOSE AMIRITE!!!1!!

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May 29, 2018 Tina ➹ the girl who lives in Fandoms (Book.Enchantress) rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: cover, fav-ship, favorite, 2018, 5-stars, reviews, want-this-edition, golden-stars, wow-end, all-time-fav

4.75 Golden Stars

I couldn't put this book down!

same world & rules as first one but also different from it.
Awesome!
the way the characters changed & made decisions & reacted, this is what i call character development.
what an Ending!
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Plot: ★★★★★/5
Characters: ★★★★★/5
Writing Style: ★★★★★/5
World building: ★★★★★/5
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Oct 07, 2016 Inge rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: young-adult, middle-grade, fantasy, magic

Not as gripping as the first book, but a fun and easy read nonetheless.

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Jun 06, 2019 Alaina rated it liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: 2019, fantasy, romance, fiction, young-adult, audiobook, contemporary

I am still debating on whether or not this was an improvement or not from the first book. I also have no idea what I rate the first one, and I'm way too lazy to look it up, so I'm just gonna go with 3 stars on this one.

A World Without Princes was an eh, okay book. I felt like nothing really happened in this and there was little character development. Sophie just annoyed me and sometimes so did Agatha but eh, I didn't really expect Sophie to change that my opinion on her. Besides annoying me, I j ...more

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Jun 07, 2013 Christina (A Reader of Fictions) rated it did not like it · review of another edition

Shelves: audiobook

*sighs deeply* This one’s gonna be a rant, guys. It makes me sad, because this series had so much promise and the audiobooks are wonderful. The School for Good and Evil had some worrisome themes, but I was hoping they would be cleared up in A World Without Princes. Actually, though, the messages of the series have only gotten more upsetting with time. Though I did still really enjoy listening to the book, and Lee’s narration is totally on point, I can no longer ignore the rage-inducing aspects.

R ...more

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Mar 13, 2017 Julie Zantopoulos rated it liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: read-in-2017, own-it

I'm really enjoying this series but the first half of the book always goes slower than the second half. Clearly, I'm fine with it since I'm onto the third already.

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Jan 02, 2014 Zanib Sajjad marked it as to-read

Shelves: cleaned-out-to-read

That beautiful cover...

And that prince is even more beautifuller (is this even a word?).

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The ending of the last book was more or less a cliff-hanger. And, well, (view spoiler)

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Mar 02, 2016 Kimberley doruyter rated it really liked it · review of another edition

danm it now i have to get the third one too

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Aug 05, 2017 Grimm rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: august-tbr

ER.MAH.GERD. Thee cutest fairytale I have read in a long time!

Synopsis:
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This year, best friends Sophie and Agatha are about to discover where all the lost children go: the fabled School for Good & Evil, where ordinary boys and girls are trained to be fairy tale heroes and villains. As the most beautiful girl in Gavaldon, Sophie has dreamed of being kidnapped into an enchanted world her whole life. With her pink dresses, glass slippers, and devotion to good deeds, she know ...more

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Feb 05, 2020 Layla rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Re-read 8/11/20
Basically there isn't much to say other than:

1. Hester, Anadil and Dot, needs recognition for not only providing us with humourous one liners, but also being the glue that kept everything together. I can't imagine the book without them. 💅👑 The real queens this series.

2. I love Agatha and Sophie needs therapy.

3. Tedros is so stupid. He does grow on you after a while, but that boy is so easily influenced by others.

4. This book is probably my least favorite book in the series for s ...more

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Jan 05, 2017 Kells Next Read rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: audio-book, young-adult, mg, fantasy, favorites, favorite-authors, ebook, my-copy, fairy-tale

You know and I know, that we aren't in the least bit surprised by my ratings of this one. Saying I loved it is understating the feeling and emotions that I felt while reading this one.
Every character, esp. Sophie I adore and just could not get enough of. I want more and I'm so glad that I have the third book to jump right into.
Me after finishing this one:

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Dec 20, 2013 Esthela Gómez rated it it was amazing

Shelves: young-adult, fantasy, series, romance, my-favorites, 2014-is-so-far-awaaay, badass-heroine, book-boyfriends, favorite-villains, love-hate

THIS BOOK WAS SO GOOOOOD! so many plot twists!

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Sep 03, 2015 Saarah rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: fantasy, fairytale-retellings

I never had the time to write a review, so I'm just gonna say it was a great and amazing book. so unique and different as well, and there were crazy twists which I had never expected. totally loved this.

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Jan 24, 2015 ZOEY rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

Shelves: ya-na, paranormal-fantasy-magic-scifi, series, audiobooks

Okay.
Agatha has gotten fairly stupider after book 1.
(yes Aggie, we know you like trusting people and not jumping to conclusions- but maybe, sometimes you should....)

Tedros again has been really unnecessary.
(not that I'm complaining)
Yes we get it. All the women in your life are backstabbing witches. Accept it and get over it.

Now.
Sophie.
The character that instilled in me a plethora of feelings.
poor,misunderstood,irritating,loyal,shallow,confused etc. (you get it) Sophie.
No one truly loves her and ...more

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Jan 05, 2016 Susana rated it liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: dash-of-romance, adventure, middle-grade, 2016-reads, fairy-tales, 2014-releases

3.5 Stars

Still good, but not as great as the first story. Reason for it?
Unlike what happened with the first book which I felt was more complex _ and more YA_ this one felt a little toned down...maybe the reason has to do with Agatha's character that in the first book was so amazing, but in this one, the girl felt definitely dumber.

It felt as if the author was trying to say, if you're good, you're going to lose a lot of your brain cells.

Sophie on the other hand, is more amazing than ever. S ...more

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Oct 25, 2016 Caroline rated it liked it · review of another edition

MEH this was not as good as book one which was disappointing. I found the plot and the characters very frustrating a lot of the time. Sophie drives me crazy and I'm not entirely able to put my finger on why. Tedros felt like a bit of an unnecessary character tbh. I didn't like that so much of the plot was based on miscommunication like:
Agatha thinks this is what happened but Sophie knows that's not true. Sophie isn't going to say anything so Agatha is going to try to talk to Tedros but Tedros is ...more

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Nov 28, 2013 Bipasha rated it liked it

Shelves: coverfit

Its true. Sequels suck. Disappoint. Whatever.
And the ARC didn't have pictures. T_T
And butterflies- lol.
AND NEW GUY IS SEXY.
And belly dancing~!
Review in a line- Fantastical school segregated by sex;kids getting unwanted sex-chages. UGH.
So, boys vs. girls, and then some.

PRE-READ
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Apr 22, 2014 Syahira rated it it was ok

Shelves: fantasy, young-adult

It's not a world without princes, this book is more aptly named "The School for Misandrist and Misogynist". While I'm not certain whether I am reading the same book as everyone does since I'm still undecided about the entire series and most seem to love it but this book really did embellish what I hate about the last book.

I realize that it was the rigid world structure that strangled my general enjoyment. I can't understand why you can't be a bit more flexible with this book. Why can't these fic It's not a world without princes, this book is more aptly named "The School for Misandrist and Misogynist". While I'm not certain whether I am reading the same book as everyone does since I'm still undecided about the entire series and most seem to love it but this book really did embellish what I hate about the last book.

I realize that it was the rigid world structure that strangled my general enjoyment. I can't understand why you can't be a bit more flexible with this book. Why can't these fictitious characters exist normally as a person with in-between characteristics that they somehow defile the idea of each groups that one need to shame them or brain wash those they see different. Why does everyone still need to be at war with those and everyone different than they are.

Why does a person need to create a world where one can't have a choice to be who they are and how they're basically forced to conform with someone's idea of being someone but at the same time seem to actively endorse this kind of qualities. Why can't we as a readers get the feel that there are something positive with the flow of the writing and basically hopeful that the characters' circumstances would be different. Instead we had those who are different or in between being forced to accept their fate "either being evil or forever being a sidekick" and anyone who doesn't accept their destined fate will be treated very badly.

While I am certain the author is trying to say something positive or have a meaningful point somewhere but I think this is the first book I read in this recent years where I learn more about hating boys and hating girls that it have to be repeated all the time. I get that the series' world was based on the idea of dualism but I do think it was just a rewriting of the first book.

One of the things I sort of like about the last book was the fact that the school was clearly psychopathic twisted version of fairy tales Hogwarts based on stories that are twisted to begin with. But I think somewhere around the time when this book began to alter Agatha's characterizations and retaining Sophie's attitude is that it forget about the child abuse and child murders going on in the background. Now, I felt like I didn't have anything to make myself invested with the story as some of that mythos was lost in between the drama. The sequel now seem to be invested in pitting the characters against one another again for the choices they made in the last book which revolve around an emo boy and another session of insecure girls.

Although the first book did try to spin the idea that girls don't need boys to have a happily ever after but now everything changed in this book. We get a reboot of sorts. Everything as just an alternate version of the world they left prior to this book. Where something change but everything remain the same. The school system still exist in a deus ex machina of sorts. There's unresolved issues from the last book (ehem, a cursed kid got beheaded last time.. remember).

I'm not sure what sort of empowering message this book trying to sell. Being a character who stand up for herself and her love is wrong. You still have to choose one over another and not both. Being a strong female character is IMPOSSIBLE because the male characters will lose their masculinity and fret about their hate on girls that they have this mob mentality again and very homicidal on the other sex and so on.

Seeing that there's no middle ground between these school that allowed the idea that one can have more than two gender identity, I do feel that the entire story structure is crumpling down trying to reason out these inconsistencies. What even weirder, then there's even a magical option to change your sex just to sneak into the other side because they can't stand being in the other side. I don't know about you but that was halfhearted for an author to attempt to discuss gender identity issues.

I am a feminist myself but it was clear that someone think being misandrist was a requirement to be empowered as a female. I am secure with my gender and accept individual expectations and potential but superficial complete hate of another just because they have differing sex chromosome was ridiculous. Yes, there are men who completely hate anything about female or the idea of being female and having a brain or being self-empowered above theirs. They do exist and these sort of thinking is a chronic disease we face everywhere. We're living in a patriarchal society and that is factual. I accepted this type of quality in some men and prayed that they might change their mind but I don't agree that we need a reverse form of misogyny to portray this degree of dualism. Sometimes this is what made this book abhorrent to me. What is it with the persisting idea that princess can only be empowered by completely annihilating the prince or men and the call to render them useless and defeated and emasculated as a form of social justice. Really?

The book could have been better but I do think this book is destructive to young readers. I mean really, girls insisting they're better off without boys is fine but girls wishing all boys dead. Boys wanting to kill girls for no other reason except they blame someone for ruining their structure of the world. The idea of Queen Guinevere so abhorrent (btw, spoilers, Gwen did take over Camelot in Merlin) Superficial characters, simplified world-building around troublesome complex issues done in a confusing way. I suppose I like the idea that the hero becoming anti-hero but I felt Agatha in this book was a pale version of the one in the first book and Sophie was genuinely repetitive and predictable and changeable. This whole book was a plain disappointment and the plot just scattered in the wind somewhere. I wish I have enough enthusiasm for the next book, I guess we should just wait for it then. ...more

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Jun 26, 2014 Robin (Bridge Four) rated it liked it

Shelves: ya, fantastic-fantasy

***Spoilers for The School for Good and Evil Book#1***

Once upon a time a Princess and a Witch became friends….best friends and choose each other over everyone else including the handsome Prince.

“And Sophie and Agatha lived happily ever after, for girls don't need princes for love to call... No, they don't need princes in their fairy tales at all”

But what happens in fairytale land when girls decide they don’t need Princes to have Happy Ever After’s? Book 1 in the School for Good and Evil foc ...more

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Apr 05, 2014 Molly rated it liked it

Shelves: childrens, fantasy, fairy-tales, magic, arthurian

Rating, 3.5

This one was a slow read. This book was inferior to the first one. It was still good, but something was sorely missing. The thing is, Agatha was not herself. I loved both girls in book one (Yeah, I love a good villainess), but now Agatha has lost that something that made her stand out in the first installment.
Next book year 2015, month unknown. I hope it restores the sparkling fun that was The School for Good and Evil.

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Oct 28, 2014 Maddie rated it really liked it · review of another edition

I hope this book is THE EN and not THE END

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Soman Chainani's first novel, THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD AND EVIL, debuted on the New York Times Bestseller List, has been translated into 26 languages across six continents, and will soon be a major motion picture from Universal Studios.

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