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Auf regelmäßigen Spaziergängen berichtet Oehler, der früher mit Karrer ging, einem Dritten, warum Karrer verrückt geworden und nach Steinhof hinaufgekommen ist. Für Karrer war das Gehen Anlaß und Ausdruck seiner Denkbewegung. Mit Karrer zu gehen, ist eine ununterbrochene Folge von Denkvorgängen gewesen., Denkvorgänge, in den Karrer sich klarwerden wollte über die Beziehung ...more
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Published September 29th 1971 by Suhrkamp (first published 1971)
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zumurruddu
Jun 17, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: mitteleuropa
“Camminare e pensare sono in un rapporto costante di reciproca intimità”

Non so se mi succede che più leggo Thomas Bernhard, più mi sembra delirante (il che sarebbe un segnale positivo per la mia salute mentale, dice mio marito), o se questo è effettivamente il suo libro più delirante (filosoficamente delirante) che abbia letto finora.

Un delirio lucidissimo, in ogni caso. Una riflessione - scritta nello stile più bernhardiano che si possa immaginare - su come il pensiero (il cosiddetto pensiero)
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Forrest
When my daughter asked me what I would like for Christmas this past year, I gave her my annual list, including one of my favorite reads of last year, A Philosophy of Walking. Of course, she likes to extemporize, riffing off the list like a jazz-shopper (I'm the same way), so she ended up getting me Thomas Berhnhard's Walking: A Novella. I had not heard of Bernhard, nor read his work, though I feel like I should have, at some point, possibly in a German literature class I had as an undergraduate. ...more
Narjes Dorzade
Oct 16, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
|یک مارکی دوسادِ تمام عیار|

توماس برنهارد،نویسنده‌ی آوانگاردِ اتریشی در این کتاب جریان پیوسته‌‌ی اندیشه به زبان را بیان می‌کند.آن‌گونه که خودش می‌نویسد:
پیوسته میان همه‌ی امکان‌های فکر سر و همه‌ی امکان‌های حسِ مغز و همه‌ی امکان‌های شخصیت انسان کشاکشی در جریان است.
سیلانِ پیوسته‌ی جنون و زبان.

کتاب درخشان ولی فوق‌العاده سخت‌خوان بود.و کمی شبیه به کتاب کاسپارِ هاندکه[نویسنده‌ی هموطن اتریشی‌اش] .هاندکه در مورد یکی از کتاب‌های برنهارد می‌نویسد که:
《من واقعا خسته بودم اما این کتاب آرامم نمی‌گذاشت...خواندم
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Strasna Mera
Aug 15, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Koliko me je samo zabavila ova neobična novela :) Ova priča o rađanju ludila! Već sam počela tkaninu da okrećem ka svetlu :) Šta li će od mene biti :)))
Svetolik Taštinski
Zamislite sliku „L'art de la conversation” Renea Magrita, zatim zamislite jedan oblak iznad glava dvojice ljudi sa slike i na kraju zamislite da su u njemu ispisani ovi Pesoini stihovi:

„Drvored tamo u daljini, tamo prema padini brega.
Ali šta je jedan drvored? Postoje samo drveta.
Drvored i množina ’drveće’ nisu stvari, već imena.

Žalosne ljudske duše, što sve dovode u red,
Što povlače linije od stvari do stvari,
Što stavljaju pločice s nazivima na stabla savršeno stvarna
I crtaju paralele širine i du
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trovateOrtensia
Jul 07, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: bernhard
"Questi punti radi, questi punti radi, questi punti radi, questi punti radi, questi punti radi, ancora e ancora questi punti radi, questi punti radi, questi punti radi, questi punti radi, ininterrottamente questi punti radi, questi punti radi, questi punti radi. " ...more
Maurizio Manco
Jun 06, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"Non dobbiamo mai pensare […] come e perché facciamo quello che facciamo, perché poi saremmo condannati in un attimo, se non al nulla, a un'inattività totale e a un'immobilità totale, proprio secondo il grado di consapevolezza riguardo a tale questione. Infatti il pensiero più chiaro, che è la comprensione più profonda e nello stesso tempo più chiara, è l'inattività assoluta e l'immobilità assoluta." (pp. 33, 34)

"E mentre lo Stato e mentre la società e mentre la massa fanno di tutto per eliminar
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Laurent
Sep 06, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Mijn bespreking staat op rekto:verso: https://www.rektoverso.be/artikel/de-... ...more
Sini
Jan 03, 2021 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
In 2019 las ik mijn eerste boek van de geniale galbak Bernhard, "Houthakken", Ik was flabbergasted. Vroeg in 2020 las ik daarom nog vijf andere Bernhardjes direct na elkaar. Daarna nam ik even Bernhard- pauze. Onlangs las ik echter met veel plezier "De onderspitdelver", en meteen daarna dus "Wandeling", een door Ria van Hengel mooi vertaalde novelle (85 bladzijden), smaakvol uitgegeven door Uitgeverij Vleugels. Mijn achtste Thomas Bernhard - boek dus in iets meer dan een jaar. En het is vast nie ...more
Maru Kun
“...There were two statements we wanted to explain to each other, says Oehler, I wanted to explain to Karrer a statement of Wittgenstein’s that was completely unclear to him, and Karrer wanted to explain a statement by Ferdinand Ebner that was completely unclear to me. But because we were exhausted we were suddenly no longer capable, there on the Friedensbrucke, of saying the names of Wittgenstein and Ferdinand Ebner because we had brought our walking and our thinking, the one out of the other,
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Puella Sole
Da budem iskrena, na početku me strašno nervirala ova knjiga (a taj početak podrazumijeva sigurno barem njenu prvu polovinu). Smetalo mi je to što je građa za neki esej uzeta i ubačena u nešto novelističkog tipa, gdje sve što saznajemo saznajemo iz razgovora dvojice prijatelja dok oni tako hodaju. Jednostavno ne volim kad stvari saznajem samo iz razgovora. Onda mi je knjiga u tom svom silnom ponavljanju i variranju rečenica koje tumbaju pitanja tragičnosti, smisla i besmisla, saznanja, mišljenja ...more
David
Nov 28, 2015 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-2015
(3 stars for "Bernhard Scale". Would be 4 stars for a work by almost any other author.)

Lots to like in this short novella. I'm pleased it's available on its own. (It was previously released in translation in the hardcover _Three Novellas_.) All the Bernhard goodness is on display, from the lyrical repetition to the meditations on madness and suicide. Only scores 3 star because the similar-length novellas Wittgenstein's Nephew, Concrete, and Yes are all superior. (And with just a few more pages o
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Shan
Camminando e pensando
Questo libricino è molto più tosto di quanto il titolo faccia sperare. La voce narrante sembra essere in prima battuta la protagonista ma poi prende la parola Oehler ed ecco che tutto diventa un soliloquio, una disamina sull'architettura del linguaggio, sulla sua forza e sulla velocità dell'azione del camminare, citando Wittgenstein ed Ferdinand Ebner. Come un peripatetico aristotelico Oehler , camminando con il suo amico, ci espone la sua Weltanschauung da negatore seriale.
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Ipsit
Feb 24, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
So is this a novella, at this point, more about how we arrived than where we're going? About how it was at that point past the point of no return before we even really envisioned we started on the ground never so clear and built on holes? I surmise, in that light, even youthful Bernhard is still Bernhard, the recursing thoughtful dickhead with fury to spare, and returning to through echoes the previous methods of reasoning that brought one, in their best minutes, from remaining around with their ...more
alessandra falca
Mar 23, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Non c'e' da dire niente di Bernhard. Se ti piace, lo leggi tutto. Ma proprio tutto. Ma ti deve piacere. Ti deve piacere, come dice il retro di copertina di questo "Camminare", la prosa labirintica.
"Per tutta la vita , a quanto ne sappiamo, buttiamo via i pensieri, non facciamo altro, perché non siamo altro che persone intente a rovesciare e svuotare di continuo le proprie menti come secchi di rifiuti ovunque siano. Quando la nostra mente è piena di pensieri, rovesciamo la mente come un secchio d
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icaro
Ci devo pensare (almeno con un cosiddetto pensiero).
Sarà il broncospasmo che da giorni mi inchioda a letto e mi impedisce di camminare ma, la sensazione che ci sia un problema di 're nudo' è piuttosto intensa dopo la lettura...
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Come Musica
Jun 02, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Un libro breve, intenso e difficilissimo, che offre tantissimi spunti di riflessione.
Manuel
Jul 20, 2017 rated it really liked it
Shelves: my-books
(3,75)
Frank
Jun 26, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: german, 20th-century
Schitterende novelle, schitterend vertaald. Onbegrijpelijk lauwe recensie van Marco Kamphuis in NRC, die ondanks de toch redelijk positieve conclusie slechts een dodelijke drie ballen uitdeelt: hét argument om dat idiote ballensysteem af te schaffen.

Je zou haast denken dat Kamphuis niet zo vertrouwd is met het werk van Bernhard, want hij lijkt wel verrast door het beklemmende karakter van Bernhard monomane tekst, die hij vergelijkt met — en lager aanslaat dan — diens latere Wittgensteins neef.
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L.S. Popovich
I couldn't finish this very short novella by an author some have called a towering intellect. It was repetitive and meandering. Its central themes and philosophical ideas were simple and presented plainly. The introduction by Brian Everson was far more interesting. The discussion at the heart of the character's metaphorical and literal walk did not stir an iota of emotion in me.

I want to discover a work by Bernhard I can enjoy. I want to understand why everyone recommends him so highly. Perhaps
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Umberto Rossi
Apr 06, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Puro Bernhard. Spietato. Ossessivo. Indimenticabile.
Cyane
Jun 26, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Libro breve ma incisivo, intenso ed ossessivo sia nella storia narrata che nel linguaggio utilizzato, fitto di parole o addirittura intere frasi ripetute o leggermente modificate, che vanno a premere ancora di più sul significato e sulla disperazione dei contenuti.
Una lunga e ripetitiva riflessione su un tutto che corrisponde a un niente, perché alla fine è tutto un "nonsenso". Un libro che porta dappertutto e non porta da nessuna parte, un viaggio all'interno dell'angoscia umana, un lento pass
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Gianni
Feb 25, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
“Mentre io, prima che Karrer impazzisse, camminavo con Oehler solo di mercoledì, ora, dopo che Karrer è impazzito, cammino con Oehler anche di lunedì”, è l’incipit folgorante di Camminare, e in queste prime righe del libro troviamo una possibile chiave della lettura. Il narratore e Oehler camminano e, camminando, pensano e si confrontano, “… il camminare (e quindi il pensare) di Karrer è un camminare (e quindi un pensare ) del tutto diverso, dice Oehler”, anche se non è mai troppo agevole esporr ...more
Anima
Aug 21, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
‘The unbelievable sensitivity of a person like Karrer on the one hand and his great ruthlessness on the other, said Oehler. On the one hand, his overwhelming wealth of feeling and on the other his overwhelming brutality. There is a constant tussle between all the possibilities of human thought and between all the possibilities of a human mind’s sensitivity and between all the possibilities of a human character, says Oehler. On the other hand we are in a state of constant completely natural and n ...more
christina
Jul 14, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: novella, philosophy
Touted as a novella about the impossibility of thinking, I think (ha!) this might be a misconception. Much of the conversation, especially in the first half of the book, rests on a type of thinking that later, Oehler would refer to as practical or secondary thinking, whereas that latter half attempts to capture what is impossible -- the awareness of conceptual thinking.

I'm also not in full agreement that this book is inherently pessimistic. There are conversations about how decrepit this world i
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Zoë
Dec 09, 2015 rated it it was amazing
Ein Buch, das sich anfühlt wie eine kurze Unendlichkeit und dabei so verwickelt ist, als würde man einem Faden in ein Knäuel folgt mit dem ein Haufen Katzen gespielt haben (um das nicht zu romantisch klingen zu lassen sollte ich wohl anmerken, dass es Wildkatzen waren, denen noch Blut in den Mundwinkeln klebte). Die vielen Berührungspunkte verlangen, dass man das Buch nicht einfach nebenbei lesen kann, sondern ihm eine gewisse Aufmerksamkeit schenken muss, sonst, so kann ich mir gut vorstellen, ...more
Simone Subliminalpop
“L’arte di esistere contro i fatti, dice Oehler, è l’arte più difficile. Esistere contro i fatti significa essere contro ciò che è insopportabile e contro ciò che è orribile, dice Oehler. Se noi non esistiamo costantemente contro, ma solo costantemente con i fatti, dice Oehler, andiamo a fondo in brevissimo tempo.”
ČitamČitaj
Oct 04, 2020 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Ovo djelo je jedna izuzetna jezička i misaona igrarija!
Leslie Rutkowski
I just about met my match with this book. I enjoyed the chantlike cadence the repetition brought to the narrative “said Karrer, says Oehler”, “what will Karrer miss if he does not go into Obenaus again?” That being said, I found it difficult to relax into this book enough to stop struggling with it. I certainly don’t feel equipped to give it a star rating. I’m glad I read it though.
Ann
Jul 10, 2019 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
A tedious, repetitive slog of a read, not without an odd humor, a bit Beckettish with a good dose of Gertrude Stein, but with a severe paucity of paragraph breaks. Even José Saramago uses paragraph breaks. Aargh. The book is not a long one, but I questioned my perseverance in reading it to the unsatisfying end. This is a book for readers with an intellectual bent, a thirst for existential discourse. I consider it to have been a bit of a mental exercise to have stayed with the narrative in each o ...more
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Thomas Bernhard was an Austrian author, who ranks among the most distinguished German speaking writers of the second half of the 20th century.

Although internationally he's most acclaimed because of his novels, he was also a prolific playwright. His characters were oftenly working in a lifetime and never-ending major work while they deal with themes such as suicide, madness and obsession and, as Be
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