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That Was Then, This is Now

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Ever since Mark's parents died, he has been living with Bryon. The boys are more like brothers than mere friends. They've been inseparable--until recently. Something seems to be changing between them, and Bryon can't figure it out. Is it Cathy, Bryon's new girlfriend? Is Mark jealous? Bryon is also tired of the street fighting, but Mark seems unable to quit. And where is M ...more
Paperback, 159 pages
Published 1972 by Laurel-Leaf Library (first published 1971)
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M. Weaver
I read this so long ago I don't remember everything that happened throughout very clearly. All I know is that it left me feeling strange and not a good kind of strange. More of an empty, emotionally drained kind of strange. Now, I realize that many books that invoke such emotions are usually very good books. I admit to shedding many a tear over this book. But the ending was so raw. The resolution was hardly a resolution in my eyes; it was probably the most realistic ending. But I was not satisfi ...more
Nina
See, everyone's talking about how the ending is wonderfully dark and hopeless and brave in its horror.
Well, I think it's bullshit.
I think Mark is gorgeous inside and outside, and fearless and clever and slightly twisted and dead sexy, and I think Bryon is a flighty, selfish, irrational dick. And I'm pissed about it.

You know what I'd love right now? I'd love to have a book about Mark. Just Mark. How he grew up and grew harder, what he felt for Bryon and the rest of the world, his reasons and his
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Jazmin Jade
Mar 05, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book is heartbreaking.

I read it years ago and wanted to read it again. Want to know the reason why it took me years to read it again? Because I cried my eyes out when I finished it the first time, that it has taken me this long to be able to read it again. The heartbreak was still there when I reached the end, but it was a memory of the original heartbreak. I didn’t cry the second time around, but I was close to it.

The characters are are very well developed making you feel everything they
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Laura
Aug 17, 2007 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction
Do yourself a favor and skip the crap movie with, um, one of the Estevez brothers, I forget which one. This YA is actually pretty powerful, if rather bleak, because unlike the movie, the novel doesn't cop out by giving the audience a phony happy ending.
Jacki
May 17, 2009 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Every bit as punching (no pun intended) as The Outsiders, but with a much darker ending.
It was great to see cameos of the characters from The Outsiders. The different perspective on Curtis was a nice touch.

Hinton's writing style made a noticeable improvement. Which is saying a lot. While she was fantastic in The Outsiders, this book made her points a lot more subtle (with the exception of the titled line). She made no great effort to foreshadow events, yet everything fell into a logical line o
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Arpit
Apr 26, 2017 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
You know E. L. James read this book, and thought that if S. E. Hinton could write a fan-fiction of her own book, then why shouldn't I? #BackStageStory

In the end of the book, author S. E. Hinton writes
I have had readers write me saying "After reading That Was Then, I threw it against the wall."


Miss Hinton, in our culture, we don't "throw" books (We ban/burn them.). We are taught to respect them, but had I had a hardcopy of this book, I wouldn't mind doing what your other dedicated readers did. B
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Teri
Aug 31, 2009 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I think I've read The Outsiders at least 6 times but strangely I've never read any other of Hinton's books until now. I picked this one up at the library for $1 and I'm very glad I did. It's just as gritty and real as Outsiders but it's time period is set a bit later. (Not too late for Ponyboy to make a cameo appearance though.It's fun even reading that name!) As a parent of a teenager and more on their way there it was a good reminder of all the crazy emotions of that age. My favorite part is C ...more
Emily Just Emily*~*
What an emotional roller coaster.
I remember reading this in high school, but I couldn't remember anything about the story. Until almost the end of the book and then I knew everything.

Ugh, what a mess it ended up being.

Seems like more than one person lost their mind.
Janie
Jul 15, 2009 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: ya
I really tried to like this book. I loved the Outsiders, and I liked seeing some of those characters again. Brian and Mark just seemed a lot meaner to me though, without as many redeeming qualities. The thing that bothered me the most was the ending; it left me really dissastisfied. Whenever something ends sadly, people say it's realistic, but happy endings exist in real life, and would it kill authors to put one in every now and then?
Jennifer
Jun 09, 2008 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is a coming of age story about two best friends, and what happens to them when they start to mature and grow apart. It is a story about friendship, loyalty, and mostly how the difference between right and wrong is subjective. There is excellent character development, and although the book is short (I finished it in a few hours) by the end you feel for every character in the story, as if you really know them. Recommended for anyone who liked The Outsiders.
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S.E. Hinton, was and still is, one of the most popular and best known writers of young adult fiction. Her books have been taught in some schools, and banned from others. Her novels changed the way people look at young adult literature.

Susan Eloise Hinton was born in Tulsa, Oklahoma. She has always enjoyed reading but wasn't satisfied with the literature that was being written for young adults, wh
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