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The New Dealers' War: F.D.R. and the War Within World War II
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Acclaimed historian Thomas Fleming brings to life the flawed and troubled FDR who struggled to manage WWII. Starting with the leak to the press of Roosevelt's famous Rainbow Plan, then spiraling back to FDR's inept prewar diplomacy with Japan, and his various attempts to lure Japan into an attack on the U.S. Fleet in the Pacific, Fleming takes the reader inside the incredi
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Hardcover, 628 pages
Published
April 5th 2001
by Basic Books
(first published 2001)
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Life's a lot easier when you take it for granted that professional politicians - even those whose policy positions you agree with - only care about two things: getting elected and staying elected. This book reveals how politicians operate behind the rhetoric, led by the master Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The fact that many today still idolize FDR speaks to the lasting achievement of his talent. Did Roosevelt have convictions and sentiments? Of course. Did he let such get in the way of his being P
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May 18, 2020
Arminius
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The New Dealers War is an interesting book on the presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR). FDR ran against Herbert Hoover. He laid blame at the man he once had complimented. FDR’s plan to defeat the Depression was to through programs at it. Today a number of New Deal programs (as they were named) exist. These include the Federal Deposit Insurance (FDIC) which insures deposits of your money in the bank for up to $250.00. Also, Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), Fannie Mae's pur
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It took me ten hours or so to read this book, and I pretty much read it straight through. Thomas Fleming's narrative is vivid and engaging, like a story teller. But you will learn more history than from reading a similar length textbook (561 pages+35 pages of notes AND an excellent index). Fleming engages you with the character, counselors, dilemmas and politics of War President, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Never an FDR fan, these pages gave me a greater appreciation of his challenges and strengths,
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I was more than happy to go along with the “historical consensus” that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a good (great?) President. I honestly cannot remember who told me to read this specific book, but it really rocked by world and introduced a whole new level of skepticism of, well, everything in my life. Today, between this book and Amity Shales’s The Forgotten Man, there’s really no excuse left for FDR worship, and that the case isn’t closed on it at this point (especially post-stimulus), well…
May 19, 2011
Kevin O'Keeffe
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This is probably one of the most important books on both U.S. history, and the western Allied role within the Second World War, ever to be written. Many books claim to demonstrate that the execrable war criminal, Frank Roosevelt, was a traitor who permitted the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor, in order to generate public enthusiasm for a formal U.S. entry into the Second World War (whether motivated by some weird, ideological fixation on an anti-fascist worldview, a more perfidious desire to impos
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An hysterical demonization of FDR. Very interesting and closely researched, but also unrelentingly biased and relies on a great deal of titillating hearsay, after stating explicitly in the Prologue that he wishes to 'liberate history from memory'. Entertaining precisely in the respects that it is *not* a history: hearsay and anecdotes are fun, but Fleming's analyses derived therefrom are inconsistent, illogical, deeply biased, and betray a number of assumtions about right/left, capitalism, etc.
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What is intended as a critical review of the Roosevelt Administration immediately before and during WW2 loses much of its integrity due to the author’s implacable desire to make us all understand that FDR and everyone associated with him was absolutely, completely, and totally wrong about absolutely everything. Anything critical of FDR is accepted as Gospel; any defense is shrugged off. The few times FDR is grudgingly acknowledged to have been right read like they were added later at the editor’
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Interesting Quotes:
"As the Japanese slowly realized that they were not going to get any oil [after America's covert oil embargo of Japan beginning August 1941], Tokyo's hard-liners argued that this was proof that the Americans were trying to humiliate them. They began planning to use their military power to get oil--and much more. It is hard to believe that Roosevelt, if he was reading the Purple intercepts, did not see war as an inevitable outcome of this covert policy."
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"As the Japanese slowly realized that they were not going to get any oil [after America's covert oil embargo of Japan beginning August 1941], Tokyo's hard-liners argued that this was proof that the Americans were trying to humiliate them. They began planning to use their military power to get oil--and much more. It is hard to believe that Roosevelt, if he was reading the Purple intercepts, did not see war as an inevitable outcome of this covert policy."
-Thomas Fleming, the Ne ...more
This is a really great book that covers everything I thought I knew about FDR and so much more. Mr. Fleming digs deep to find clear evidence of the war mongering waged by the New Dealers of the day. It is incredible to think what could have been if the seeking of an "unconditional surrender" was not done. A terrible shame and history should really not be so kind to FDR and his ilk.
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One of the best books I have read, “The New Dealers War” by Thomas Fleming. I would also recommend the following books: "The Forgotten Man," by Amity Shlaes, "The Secret Betrayal 1944*1947," by Nikolai Tolstoy, "New Deal or Raw Deal," by Burton Folsom, Jr, "FDR's Folly," by Jim Powell, "Freedom Betrayed," by Herbert Hoover, "Operation Snow," by John Koster, and "THE VENONA SECRETS," by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel.
From this book some of the main points are:
When Roosevelt ran for his th ...more
From this book some of the main points are:
When Roosevelt ran for his th ...more
Really great book.
Shows how FDR lured the USA in ww2, was naive to the soviets not by being communist but in his foolish attitude that his personal charm could "get at" Stalin and the soviets infiltration of the US goverment like Alger Hiss and Dexter White.
The pages about the physical detoriation of FDR is gripping and we see how FDR unconditional surrender policies affected for the worst the post war situation. Also this book show that Harry Truman was an under appreciated and realistic POTUS ...more
Shows how FDR lured the USA in ww2, was naive to the soviets not by being communist but in his foolish attitude that his personal charm could "get at" Stalin and the soviets infiltration of the US goverment like Alger Hiss and Dexter White.
The pages about the physical detoriation of FDR is gripping and we see how FDR unconditional surrender policies affected for the worst the post war situation. Also this book show that Harry Truman was an under appreciated and realistic POTUS ...more
It's appropriate to not want to canonize FDR - the fact he was president by itself shows that he was no saint - but the author here tilts to the other side a bit, straining at gnats and swallowing camels in the course of putting FDR's often ambiguous actions in the worst light. In addition, time has revealed that whatever else he may have been Roosevelt was by-and-large right in his mistrust of the American businessman as a moral and political force, making some of Fleming's objections to the Ne
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My opinion of this book was very mixed. On the one hand, I thought Fleming put forth a number of valid criticisms of FDR, and his handling of WWII. The most telling, imo, was FDR's failure to understand the nature of Stalin and the Soviet Union, that they were our enemy every bit as much as Nazi Germany.
Fleming failed to convince me, however, that FDR was somehow responsible for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, nor was I convinced that it was a mistake to insist on the unconditional surrend ...more
Fleming failed to convince me, however, that FDR was somehow responsible for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, nor was I convinced that it was a mistake to insist on the unconditional surrend ...more
Mar 02, 2011
Chris
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Fleming's book on FDR and the New Dealers covers a wide variety of topics and hits on many interesting details about the New Dealers. A great read that digs in depth into the fight during the fight that most people overlook and/or overlooked. An easy read for a biography/historical novel. Anyone interested in FDR should read this novel.
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This is one of a number of books that seek to prove that FDR put the fleet at Pearl to bait the Japanese. This book gives more background on his decision than the others.
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Thomas James Fleming was an historian and historical novelist, with a special interest in the American Revolution. He was born in 1927 in Jersey City, New Jersey, the son of a World War I hero who was a leader in Jersey City politics for three decades. Before her marriage, his mother, Katherine Dolan Fleming, was ...more
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Thomas James Fleming was an historian and historical novelist, with a special interest in the American Revolution. He was born in 1927 in Jersey City, New Jersey, the son of a World War I hero who was a leader in Jersey City politics for three decades. Before her marriage, his mother, Katherine Dolan Fleming, was ...more
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