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iD (The Machine Dynasty #2)

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Javier is a self-replicating humanoid on a journey of redemption.

Javier's quest takes him from Amy's island, where his actions have devastating consequences for his friend, toward Mecha where he will find either salvation... or death.
Paperback, 320 pages
Published June 25th 2013 by Angry Robot (first published January 1st 2013)
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Dan Schwent
After being forced to poison his wife Amy, vN Javier goes on the run to find her backup. Can he find it before his enemies find him and shut him down permanently?

Disclaimer: I got this ARC from NetGalley in exchange for reviewing it.

iD takes place in a future where men and machines live side by side. While it's the first book in a series, following vN, it didn't take me long to get up to speed. I love the concept of self-replicating androids. Hell, there are a lot of great concepts in this one,
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Tabitha (Pabkins)
Now Wait for it, wait for it..
“We’re all facing the goddamn robot apocalypse because some nerds didn’t have the sack to ask a girl out.”


That is just one taste of the fucking awesome iD is made up of. It’s also pretty much sums up really well what the story is about. Not that it’s about nerdy guys who can’t approach women but that a lot of people are using the humanoids as an outlet for things they either can’t, won’t, or really shouldn’t be doing with other people.

If you haven’t already you need
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Adam
May 24, 2013 Adam rated it it was amazing
I love a book that kicks me in the head.

You know what I'm talking about: you open the first page, start reading, and some idea, some turn of phrase, something about the book rears back from the pages and smacks you in the skull, leaving you breathless and starry eyed and saying, "Oh, wow" for the next two hundred pages. It's nice to have a comforting book, one that slowly pulls you in until you're in way over your head, but, every now and then, I need the kick, and iD by Madeline Ashby is chock
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Tez
Jan 25, 2015 Tez rated it liked it
I really enjoyed the first book, vN, but this one didn't work for me. Doesn't help that this has a different POV (Javier, rather than Amy). The author's said iD is like her version of a James Bond story - complete with casinos, cocktails, and a supervillain. But I just couldn't connect with the story, or the characters.

Book 3, reV, is due out late in 2015. Hopefully it's an improvement upon this installment.
Alexa
It makes me sad that I have to give this one two stars, because I loved vN so much. Realistically, its probably a two and half, but Goodreads doesn't give me that option so I've gotta go with my gut here, and there wasn't a whole lot I liked about this book other than the initial premise. While iD has a lot of what I loved about the first book in the series, it was much more disorganized and just didn't hold my interest as well.

It's kind of funny that the thing that gives Amy her true personhood
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Ben Babcock
In vN , Madeline Ashby provides a refreshing take on the idea of robots on the run. She tries to bottle lightning a second time in iD—and she succeeds. The second Machine Dynasty novel raises the stakes and allows Ashby a chance to explore both the backstory and future of this world where Asimovian robots have been reified. It’s not quite a full on apocalypse, but the world appears to be holding its breath.

I’m going to assert that you needn’t have read vN to read iD; and, if you read this one,
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Timothy Ward
Formal review to come on SF Signal.

I'll admit, I was really worried about my rating for this book. From 35% to 75% I wasn't really enjoying myself, and for most of that I was pretty repulsed. There's rape, a trip to a pedophile club, and fantasies about sex robots that I won't go into. The author doesn't portray these in a positive light at all, but it still wasn't easy to read.

But then the ending went and surprised me, and even made me see why the main character of this story had to have had th
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Matt
Jun 25, 2013 Matt rated it it was amazing
Since the days of Isaac Asimov, robots have been a huge part of science fiction. With this being true, it’s a wonder that more writers aren’t trying to do what Madeline Ashby has done with iD, and that is make the idea of humanoid androids actually something fresh and exciting again.

iD, which is the second novel in the Machine Dynasty series, takes Asimov’s laws of robotics and uses them to create real ethical dilemmas and just perfect philosophical tension. When androids get to the point where
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Alex (Lexie)
I received an ARC from NetGalley in exchange for an honest review. Thank you NetGalley and Angry Robots for the opportunity to read it.

Don't you think this book is weird? lol.

I got so many issues with this book that I do not know where I should begin. I like the idea of robots. Of vN co-habiting with humans. Working as a nurse, gardener, teacher, etc. I like how they could think of their own but they could not even think of harming a human for it would 'failsafe' them. I think that is such a goo
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Beezlebug (Rob)
Jun 07, 2013 Beezlebug (Rob) rated it liked it
Machine Dynasty Sequel

Summary:Full disclosure I received an electronic copy of this book to review from NetGalley. iD is the second book in Madeline Ashby’s The Machine Dynasty. Having read the first book in the series back in August 2012 I can honestly say I don’t recall very much of the overall series except for a few basic plot points and characters. In fact, when I read the summary for iD I assumed Javier was a new character not realizing he played an important role in vN. With that said I t
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Kate
Just as awesome as the the first one!
I liked all the sci fi references that none of the vNs ever got, to Bladerunner and Star Trek and The Prisoner and probably others that I didn't get.
Cereus
A wonderful middle act to a thrilling, inspiring, heart-breaking, often-squick-filled science fiction cyber punk masterpiece.

I'm serious, I can't believe how good this series is. The mechanical flaws of the first book have all but ironed out here--while still fast-paced, this book is so much easier to follow and flows quite nicely (although this may be because Javier is much less possessed and confused than Amy was in the first book).

I really want a third and final act in this series--if only b
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Peter
Oct 20, 2014 Peter rated it liked it
iD picks up where vN leaves off, except it focuses on vN Javier, who's found love with Amy but still has his failsafe that makes doing harm to humans unthinkable. And that fact is used against him, to force him into betraying his love. Once that's done, he must go on a quest for redemption, falling on his old techniques of charm and seduction to find someone who might have a backup copy of Amy's personality.

The book deals with many of the same themes as the first one, but even less subtly. That
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Emma
Jan 10, 2014 Emma rated it liked it
I picked this up because I'd read the first one. Which at the time I thought was Wind-up Girl... nope, different book about a mechanical girl... oops.

I had completely forgotten what had happened in the first book. And seeing as this picks up right where that one left off, but is suddenly from the male protagonists pov ... well I was a little (a lot) confused, for most of the book. (Also, I had totally pictured the female protagonist as a asian/brunette but he kept describing her as caucasian/blo
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Mike
May 25, 2016 Mike rated it it was ok
I really liked vN, the first book in the series, but this one really did not work for me. Amy was a great character, but this one is entirely from Javier's perspective and he really doesn't interest me much. What's more, (view spoiler) Fortuna ...more
Suzy Wilson
Jan 18, 2014 Suzy Wilson rated it liked it
Thank you to Angry Robot Press, via NetGalley, who provided me with an eARC of iD, for the purposes of an honest review.

As you can tell from the rating, I feel somewhat ambivalent about this novel, I suspect some of that might arise from the fact I have embarked on this series from the middle - I have not read Ms Ashby's series starter - vN. However, having said that, I don't believe it is merely lack of background that leaves me here - the novel has enough in it to stand alone as a novel - I th
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Mieneke
Jul 13, 2013 Mieneke rated it it was amazing
Shelves: science-fiction, 2013
vN was one of my favourite debuts for 2012, only beaten out by Tanya Byrne's Heart-Shaped Bruise . I loved Amy's story and the world Ashby created. I was looking forward to returning to the world and seeing how the developments of the last book would echo through this one.

While iD is just as great as vN, it's the complete polar opposite of its predecessor. vN dealt with the child-like and innocent Amy who was forced to grow up fast, while Javier is far more adult, though younger in actual yea
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AmandaSOTP
Jul 13, 2013 AmandaSOTP rated it it was amazing
Shelves: read-2013
This series started with vN which followed Amy, a robot made for the pleasure of humans. In Amy's case, her owner treated her as a person and kept her innocent like a child as long as he could. We are presented with the idyllic setting of a human caring for a vN as if it were a human child and teaching it while it aged but didn't grow, but Amy was an unusual case. Most vN were created to do work for us, to be there for us in any and every way imaginable, and with a built-in failsafe preventing t ...more
Shaheen
Jul 13, 2013 Shaheen rated it liked it
Taking up close to where vN left off, iD follows Javier's journey to set things right after everything goes wrong on Amy's island. Although I liked the book well enough, I feel that some of the magic was missing, and I'm not convinced that Javier is as compelling a protagonist as Amy was.

Javier makes a few silly decisions throughout this book, and the idea behind them is that he lacks the freedom to have done anything differently. While the focus of vN was very much about the rights that a robot
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Amanda
Oct 01, 2013 Amanda rated it really liked it
Shelves: arc, scifi, series, ai
I was really excited for the second book in this series about ai written by a woman author. I love getting to see scifi topics like ai explored from a woman’s perspective. So I was a bit disappointed to have the story shift focus from a woman in the first book (Amy) to a man in the second (Javier).

Ripping Amy out from under us is an interesting choice. On the one hand, I appreciate series that switch perspectives like this because we get to see more of the world of the novel and gain a clearer u
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Greg
Jul 30, 2013 Greg rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
Madeline Ashby’s The Machine Dynasty series takes place in a world where Christian leaders have created robots (called vN) to provide for those left behind in the event of the biblical Rapture. This has not happened, and the aftermath of their preparation is neither utopia or dystopia. What we do have is a compelling story of a person seeking retribution and redemption, who just happens to have a few more abilities than your modern man. That in a nutshell is the story of iD.

The second book in Th
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Deniz
Jul 01, 2013 Deniz rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
ARC was provided by Publishers through Netgalley in exchange for an honest review.

3.5 Stars

Just like in vN the first book of the series Ashby wowed me with her world-building. I love the concept of 3D printers that can print food, clothes ect but also the concept of reproducing Androids.
While vN was Amy's story, iD is Javiers. It's written from his point of view. And there are many back-flashes of his life before he met Amy. The story picks up exactly where vN stopped. While I think it's prefer
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Bibliotropic
May 08, 2015 Bibliotropic rated it really liked it
In the previous novel in the series, vN, Ashby introduces us to Amy, and we follow her story of self-discovery in a futuristic world where humanoid robots have been created to fulfill a person’s every whim. And I do mean every whim, because yes, pedophilia is touched upon in this series, and the future is not entirely a comfortable place.

In this sequel, we instead follow Javier, Amy’s companion and love. Where much of vN had a focus on finding a sense of self and learning about who you are when
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Tsana Dolichva
Jun 15, 2013 Tsana Dolichva rated it really liked it
iD by Madeline Ashby is the sequel to vN, which I reviewed last year. It picks up not too long after the first book ended and deals with the consequences of events in the first book. This review will contain some spoilers for vN but not for iD. It's also the kind of series you have to read in order for it to make sense; iD depends on a lot of worldbuilding laid down in vN.



iD starts with Amy and Javier, our two protagonists from vN, living a reasonably idyllic life with Javier's kid (from the fir
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Joe Frazier
Jun 12, 2013 Joe Frazier rated it really liked it
Shelves: scifi
There are so many good things to say about iD. I say most of them here: http://joesgeekfest.wordpress.com/201...

Ms. Ashby takes known ingredients: androids, an Asmovian rule for human safety and the depravity of man to cook up incredibly rich relationships, drama and landscapes. iD is part SciFi, part mystery thriller and part love story all the while examining issues of race and oppression, relative weakness and perversion, AI and psychology, confused relationships and mixed up people (vN and o
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Michael Hirsch
May 03, 2014 Michael Hirsch rated it really liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
I didn't like this quite as much as the first book in the series, but it was still pretty good. Javier he arborist robot is duped into killing his wife, Amy, the kindhearted robot who is missing her "failsafe" so she can contemplate hurting humans, at the end of the first book. Amy was a great character. This book is all about Javier searching for a way to resurrect Amy. Javier is not as interesting as she is. fortunately, the rest of the world is fascinating and I enjoyed it s lot.
Tyrannosaurus regina
Three, but a high three; I continue to love the social constructs that she has created in this altered world, and the novel backstory for the AI revolution. I didn't like this quite as much as the first, and I think a lot of that comes down to feeling like a lot of the relationships were shortcutted; I wasn't always sure why characters were reacting to one another the way they did, or why they had such quick turnarounds. But I am still eagerly anticipating more.
Jay Batson
Jul 27, 2016 Jay Batson rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Fewer new compelling ideas than vol 1, but well developed

The first book in the series introduced some very interesting quandaries about the relationship artificial intelligences and humans. This second book isn't as full of clever ideas, but develops the first books' ideas well.

The author is mostly writing from the position that AI is essentially a very clever species (more so than humans), and that the relationship will be mostly OK for us – but not completely. It's an interesting place on the
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Kieran
Jul 15, 2016 Kieran rated it really liked it
I'm so sad that the 3rd book isn't out yet or I'd start reading it immediately. The first book is fantastic, this one isn't quite as good. But it does get into more complexity with Javier's character and his life as a VN with a failsafe, and the troubles that caused. I'd say the first one could have been a stand-alone, and this is an additional sequel, rather than a straightforward second novel, mainly because Amy's POV is almost entirely absent it feels very different. I did still enjoy it very ...more
Mitchell
A more difficult read than it should have been, at least at the beginning. I was definitely struggling with remembering who was who and what was going on. And then the book shifted and kind of got going in a different direction and was very readable. And then it jump shifted near the end leaving me with a bunch of huh.

I didn't actually re-read my review from book 1 until just before writing this review and it explains some of my issues with this book. Basically the author is apparently fond of t
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Madeline Ashby is a science fiction writer and strategic foresight consultant living in Toronto. She has been writing fiction since she was about thirteen years old. (Before that, she recited all her stories aloud, with funny voices and everything.) Her fiction has appeared in Nature, Tesseracts, Escape Pod, FLURB, the Shine Anthology, and elsewhere. Her non-fiction has appeared at BoingBoing.net, ...more
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