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Johanna, ein junges Mädchen mit überragenden Geistesgaben, wächst im Frankreich des 9. Jahrhunderts heran. Als Tochter eines strenggläubigen Vaters und einer heidnischen Mutter gelingt ihr, was allen Mädchen im Mittelalter verwehrt blieb: Sie erhält eine fundierte heilkundliche und philosophische Ausbildung. Doch Johanna weiß, daß ihr als Frau die letzten Tore der Weisheit ...more
Paperback, 566 pages
Published April 1st 1998 by Aufbau-Verlag (first published 1996)
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Jens Raab It's been a while that I read the book and watched the movie (the longer TV version) but from what I remember the movie was quite OK. Very…moreIt's been a while that I read the book and watched the movie (the longer TV version) but from what I remember the movie was quite OK. Very entertaining but there are some differences to the novel.
So I would say that the adaption could be a bit more faithful and compressed the plot (which was to be expected given the length of the novel) and therefore isn't perfect but half as good? Yes! ;-)(less)

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Misfit
Interesting take on the legend, but has some flaws. I think I'm going to be another one in the minority here. I found the idea of a woman disguised as a man seated on the papal throne to be an interesting legend and the author did a decent job with it. I appreciated the research the author took on the period and customs of the times, which is not an easy task as so much is unknown about the dark ages.

The problem I had is the incredible coincidences throughout the book where Joan is just saved i
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Powersamurai
Mar 22, 2008 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: historical, fiction
About the only female pope back in the 9th century. The Catholic Church today treats Pope Joan as legend created by the Protestants, but with over 500 documents to prove she did exist, it is but another bureaucratic cover-up.
A woman from Frankish lands with Saxon and English heritage in the 9th century going out there and doing it for herself. It is a thinking person's book. Lots of Latin in there, of course, because the language used in the church then was Latin. But don't let that stop y
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Chrissie
NO SPOILERS!!!

In conclusion, having completed this novel, having struggled through to the end, I can say I did not like it. I didn't like it from the start to the end. When I voice this opinion, I am obviously in the minority. I do appreciate that the author concluded with an informative author's note, which supports her belief that Pope Joan did exist, between the acknowledged Pope Leo IV and Pope Benedict III. I found her arguments undeniably convincing. I do not know whether Pope
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Sammy
May 29, 2007 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: a-the-best
Before I started reading this book I gave a brief summary to some of my friends who saw that I had just bought it and were wondering about it. That got us into a heated discussion about how completely outrageous it is for a woman to dress up as a man. How it's pretty much impossible to get away with it seeing as you'll always end up in some sort of situation where you have to reveal yourself for what you really are.

That discussion ended up shading me slightly when I began to read, th
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Manybooks
Maybe I should NOT try to claim that I have actually and indeed finished reading Donna Woolfolk Cross' Pope Joan, as I have now tried to peruse this here novel a total of four times and not been able (or even in any way all that willing) to proceed past page 100 or so (always giving up in both despair and often even anger). However, and my sincere apologies to those of you who have actually loved Pope Joan (and there does seem to be quite a large number of fans), if I am unable to get past page 100 four ...more
Leslie
Mar 09, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Whenever you see a legend, you can be sure, if you go to the very bottom of things, that you will find history. Vallet de Viriville

Joan Anglicus is a frustrated young girl. The brightest and most scholarly of all her siblings, she is often denied the chance to learn because of her sex. The Dark Ages were a time when womens brains were thought to be smaller than a man's and only needed for child bearing. Why teach a girl to read and write? Joan cannot accept this. She runs away with her older
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Aneca
Aug 14, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Pope Joan is a figure I was aware of but knew next to nothing about, her existence is surrounded by mystery and so she seems the ideal figure to write a historical fiction novel about. Author Donna Woolfolk Cross writes an interesting tale about what could have been a young girl's life in that time.

Daughter of a canon who values women little and definitely finds them unworthy of an education her Joan has to struggle from early on to pursue her studies. Luckily she finds a monk willin
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Marina Finlayson
Mar 17, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This was a novelisation of the life of the probably-real female pope, Pope Joan. So few records remain that historians cannot agree on whether she actually existed, and the "facts" of her life are few, so the author had lots of scope for invention. Her use, more than once, of amazing coincidences to get Joan out of trouble bothered me, but I couldn't fault the historical side of the novel. She obviously did a lot of research, and has recreated the look and feel of an often-overlooked part of his ...more
Gerilyn
Apr 21, 2008 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I was so torn while reading this book. It was decent writing, the characters were strong--but there were a few problems for me. Everyone was a caricature with the exception of Joan. What I really hated, though, was how the author took a great possibility of a story and turned it into flaming feminist rhetoric. Every favorite feminist theme was there, from rape and abuse to abortion. Why can't smart girls sew and cook as well as dumb ones? And why isn't it OK to be dumb, for that matter, if you'r ...more
Carole P. Roman
May 13, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Stunning story about the first alleged female Pope. Donna Woolfolk Cross takes a thousand year old legend and writes a compelling back story that left me with many questions. Pope Joan begins her life as a precocious English child with a thirst for knowledge who eventually fools everyone to become Pope. Steeped in history, Cross explains how this happened with a fascinating tale of ambition and adventure. A great read, she describes many common practices that the leaders of the church follow tod ...more
Mimi
If you've read the Clan of the Cave Bear series, you've met this heroine before - she's perfect, she invents everything, she can heal everyone of everything, she's a proto-New Age Woman who has fallen in love with the perfect man.
While there were parts of this story that were greatly enjoyable, the reliance on stock tricks to advance the plot and an opinion that you are either good or bad hampered the book.
Silver
All in all I would say this book was an enjoyable read and there were some things about it which I found to be interesting. I did like the way in which this book explored the lives of women living in this time period and particularly explored the challenges and struggles of those women who did want to break the mold and wanted more for their lives than what was expected of them and what was allowed to them.

But there were some issues I had with the book.

One of my biggest complaints
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Doug Bradshaw
Going back into history in a good novel is almost always enjoyable. We cringe as we see how brutal life was with disease, no freedom, exacting religious leaders, hard for the poor to find food, the rich overindulged and sickening. Woman are treated like slaves and their lives are there to serve their husbands. In this book, a very intelligent and likable girl attempts to find her way out of this life only to be kicked back by conservative religious leaders every step of the way. There is no plac ...more
Elizabeth
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Iva Pivkova
I really hope it's not just a legend :)
Joseph Soltero
Nov 04, 2007 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Pope Joan has recently become one of my most favorite books. To think, I bought it months ago, and it’s sat on my shelf all that time. I guess now is the time when I needed to read the book.

Cross has done a superb job bringing the tale of Pope Joan to life in this riveting, epic page-turner. From the very first page, you become irresistibly engrossed in the captivating saga of this girl who was born into a world that limited her behavior, but could not dominate her ambitious spirit,
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Sirpa Grierson
Extraordinary historical fiction piece set in the Dark Ages, about a brilliant and prodigious intellect, Joan, who hungers for an education in an age where women were thought of as chattel and reading and writing were reserved for priests and noblemen. Knowledge is power, or as her tutor tells her, "some ideas are dangerous." Having mastered Greek, Latin, classical scholarly debate, scriptural knowledge and knowledge of medicine and healing, Joan breaks the mold of women being "incapable of reas ...more
Shelli
Jul 10, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I was pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed this book! It has been on my TBR for longer than most. I guess I was expecting a much more dry and tedious story for some reason. I know there are arguments on both sides of this "legend." I didn't concern myself with that. After a bit of a slow start, the story got rolling and it was fast-paced, exciting and fun. It had more of a romance than I was expecting, and lots of drama with several save the day coincidences, but that made it all the more ent ...more
Debbie
Apr 27, 2011 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This was absolutely everything you could want in a historical fiction. It is actually right up there with some of the best historical fictions I've ever read. It was reminiscent of Follette at times, reminiscent of Rutherford at times, yet though I was reminded this book was thoroughly it's own. There was just so much to love and be entertained by.

Based on the real (although there is proof some believe legend) Pope John Angelicus aka Johanna aka Joan, like her namesake there is never a single d
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Tania
"Joan shrugged. "A man should be free to live the life he chooses." To herself she added, And so, for that matter, should a woman."


Before seeing a GR review on this book, I had never even heard of Pope Joan. I thoroughly enjoyed the story for many different reasons. I thought the author did a brilliant job of making the ninth century come to live. Imagine being a woman in an age where you most probably would not be taught to read, and the only book you would ever see would be t
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LemonLinda
Aug 18, 2011 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Cross convinced me that Pope Joan was an actual historical figure who was briliant and compassionate and through her sheer force of will climbed her way up the church hierarchy right in the midst of the Dark Ages to be anointed as Pope. The story began of a brilliant young girl who was first taught to read and write by her older brother much to the chagrin of her abusive father. After attracting the attention of a scholar she is taken with her other brother to a school for advanced study at the ...more
Glen
20180524 | Review | Pope Joan
by Donna Cross


Donna Cross' book was one of those rare books that I simply could not put down. From cover to cover it kept my interest throughout.

Ms. Cross did an excellent job translating her research about 9th century European history, giving us a 'probable' scenario of what life was like during that time. Her end-notes indicates that life was tougher than what she wrote and that she needed to soften that part of the story. She also research
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Mary Seay
Dec 19, 2007 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I'll pick this book from my shelf at odd times during the year, and no matter what page I land on I get sucked in all over again. It's an engrossing read, well-researched and well-written, that brings each character to life with stunning clarity. The author crafts the heroine in such a way that her perceptions on the current state of the church are far from the heresy one might worry would pervade this novel. In fact, for me, it reinforced the intelligence and plain-clothes wisdom of Christ that ...more
Meri
Mar 16, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
Amazing, breathtaking book... no matter of the number of pages, you can read it in a one breath. While you read it, you just forget to eat, to sleep, you forget the world around you.. so, if you want to read it, do it when you have a lot of free time ;)
Paloma
Review in English | Reseña en español (pendiente)

An awesome historical novel about a quite interesting character –Pope Joan, the only woman that accessed the Vatican throne. Her existence is part of the many of the black legends surrounding the Catholic Church, as she is denied and was erased from the official history. Nevertheless, the author drew from records and put some pieces together. Whether Joan existed or not, she does seem very real in this historical fiction that recreated her life and
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Becky Ahrendsen
recommended by Linda Denberry, used for Book Club March 2011-
Joan is not content to take what society says she should be, born the year of 814 - A smart child of a canon (priest) and Saxon woman (Gudrun who confessed to believe in Christ to save her life after her village had all perished)- Joan learns her older brother, Matthew's lessons. Until he dies. Then There is a visiting scholar (Aesculapius) sees promise in her and teaches her and her younger brother, John. Later, her father lets John
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Annette
Pope Joan is seen by some as pure legend and some argue that “history provides many examples of deliberate falsification of records” in order to cover such historical figure as female Pope. Nevertheless, what this book offers is a vivid portrait of the harsh reality for women in the Middle Ages and some went into such measures as to disguise themselves as men to achieve something they would have never had a chance to do as women.

814, Hrotrud, the village midwife of Ingelheim, Frankla
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Kristin
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Kathy
Mar 17, 2008 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Kathy by: Susan from book club
This was a choice for my book club and on first looking it over I expected it to be a little slow and boring. It took me awhile to actually pick it up and start reading it, but it didn't take long at all once I started reading it to really get into it. I found the story fascinating. It takes place in the 9th century A.D. and centers around a young woman with great intelligence and ambition. Reading about the religion and general culture of the time and the attitudes toward women was really inter ...more
Orsolya
Avid readers always tend to say that we like books better than the films that they are eventually adapted into. However, sometimes I read books and think, “Maybe the movie will be better”. That is the case with Pope Joan. The legend of Pope Joan is a strong one with sides arguing whether it is a made-up folklore or a cover-up due to illiteracy in record-keeping, embarrassment of the Church leading to falsification of records, or simple propaganda. This controversy can result in an edgy and highl ...more
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Donna Woolfolk Cross graduated cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Pennsylvania in 1969 with a B.A. in English. She moved to London, England, after graduation, and worked as an editorial assistant for a small publishing house on Fleet Street, W.H. Allen and Company. Upon her return to the United States, Cross worked at Young and Rubicam, a Madison Avenue advertising firm, before goin ...more
“As for will, woman should be considered superior to man for Eve ate of the apple for love of knowledge and learning, but Adam ate of it merely because she asked him.” 65 likes
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