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Three Roads To Quantum Gravity
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"It would be hard to imagine a better guide to this difficult subject." -- Scientific American
In Three Roads to Quantum Gravity, Lee Smolin provides an accessible overview of the attempts to build a final "theory of everything." He explains in simple terms what scientists are talking about when they say the world is made from exotic entities such as loops, strings, and ...more
In Three Roads to Quantum Gravity, Lee Smolin provides an accessible overview of the attempts to build a final "theory of everything." He explains in simple terms what scientists are talking about when they say the world is made from exotic entities such as loops, strings, and ...more
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Paperback, 256 pages
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July 4th 2002
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(first published 2000)
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Lee Smolin is one of the most interesting and controversial figures in modern physics. Establishment physicists often call him a maverick or worse. I am one of many laypeople who think that he's telling it like it is, and the mainstream people are full of s...trings.
When he wrote this book, around 1999, I think he was more part of the mainstream. He presents several different approaches to the very difficult problem of unifying gravity and quantum mechanics. It's clear that his heart belongs to ...more
When he wrote this book, around 1999, I think he was more part of the mainstream. He presents several different approaches to the very difficult problem of unifying gravity and quantum mechanics. It's clear that his heart belongs to ...more
Lots of great thoughts, but wordy like a thick hedge is dense. Its not the scientific terms so much as not well-edited. If this were half as long and covered the same ideas, it would be twice as readable. Ill be reading it again, but dreading some long passages, yet looking forward to the science and ideas.
After about a year of reading Rovelli over and over, I understood more of Smolin. Its a good feeling to be learning. Ill read this one again. ...more
After about a year of reading Rovelli over and over, I understood more of Smolin. Its a good feeling to be learning. Ill read this one again. ...more
a nice, easy intro into quantum gravity for the interested: http://homepages.ecs.vuw.ac.nz/~visse...
This book isn't too bad but I don't think I retain much. the feline analogy and cosmological evolution are cute ideas, and the black hole stuff is fascinating. but much of it is extremely speculative and cryptic rambling. Or maybe I just get more cynical of theoretical physics day by day. That's fine, and at least Lee Smolin acknowledges that it is speculative, but at least don't be so incredibly ...more
This book isn't too bad but I don't think I retain much. the feline analogy and cosmological evolution are cute ideas, and the black hole stuff is fascinating. but much of it is extremely speculative and cryptic rambling. Or maybe I just get more cynical of theoretical physics day by day. That's fine, and at least Lee Smolin acknowledges that it is speculative, but at least don't be so incredibly ...more
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Gravitons: "Three Roads To Quantum Gravity" by Lee Smolin
Lay people think gravitons are massless and propagate at the speed of light.
This (as usual) is a purely dogmatic assertion based on SR. Everybody knows that the quantum phenomena violates SR. Quantum electrodynamics shows that virtual particles do not care for anything of old causality based physics, but are best described on the basis of chance and necessity of dialectics two ...more
Gravitons: "Three Roads To Quantum Gravity" by Lee Smolin
Lay people think gravitons are massless and propagate at the speed of light.
This (as usual) is a purely dogmatic assertion based on SR. Everybody knows that the quantum phenomena violates SR. Quantum electrodynamics shows that virtual particles do not care for anything of old causality based physics, but are best described on the basis of chance and necessity of dialectics two ...more
According to Smolin, there are three "roads" currently leading to a theory of quantum gravity: the first road begins from quantum theory and adds relativity (string theory), the second begins from general relativity and adds quantum theory (loop quantum gravity), and the third rejects both and tries to consider the question from first principles. (This third road is basically not discussed, and later in the book the third road becomes thermodynamics of black holes and the "holographic
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Since Lee Smolin has been one of the leading figures both in the string theory and in the theory of loop quantum gravity, I hoped this book would clarify some questions I was left with after reading Carlo Rovelli's Reality Is Not What It Seems: The Journey to Quantum Gravity. I think the main reason both the books failed to do the job is the fact that I lack the adequate background to understand what is really meant by ''strings'' and ''loops'' in the two main approaches to quantum gravity. I
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any young scientist interested in today's fundamental questions in physics
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Lee Smolin stormed his way onto my fantasy grandfather list the fateful summer of 2008 when I realized physics and I were more than just a fling. His The Trouble with Physics was a fatherly introduction to the current state of the edges of theoretical physics and I was hooked. Needless to see, I was ecstatic to find "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" under my Christmas tree this year and devoured it on plane ride to Thailand soon after.
"Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" is Smolin's briefing to the ...more
"Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" is Smolin's briefing to the ...more
this book is so dumbed-down that i seriously considered putting it on the "non-fiction for humans" shelf. the absolute nadir came when he used as his analogy for the superposition principle of quantum mechanics a mouse which, when eaten by a cat, might turn out to be either "tasty" or "yukky". Yukky? Yukky? forget that it's universally spelled "yucky". but he hammers away at his analogy and the reader is subjected to the word "yukky" several times over a few pages.
but thank the lord most of the ...more
but thank the lord most of the ...more
Excellent book describing how the routes to quantum gravity work in rather precise but laymen terms. The human elements are also very clearly done. However, there is clear "side" taken in making loop quantum gravity sound "better" than string theory, which from what I know on technical level they are both stuck in equally critical stalemate (maybe I am wrong). But otherwise it is a good exposition, especially when Smolin laid clear the "philosophy" behind doing science - what are our biases,
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My professor asked me to starting reading literature for writing my master thesis, so I perused the library for some interesting reads. And oh boy, did I hit gold. Masterfully written by one of the people deeply invested in solving the problem of Quantum Gravity, Smolin takes a broad view of the possibilities. His writing is awkward when trying to do philosophical science but when he gets to the gritty areas, his analogies are beautiful. He talks about Loop Quantum Gravity, String Theory and
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Smolin describes his thinking about how quantum theory (micro level) might be linked to Einsteins gravitational theory (macro level), to become a quantum theory of gravity. His argument is by no means easy for the lay reader to follow, so what follows may not be an accurate rendering.
At the minutest level of reality (spacetime on Planck scale) are strings (a string is actually made of discrete pieces, called string bits, each of which carries a discrete amount of momentum and energy). Particles ...more
At the minutest level of reality (spacetime on Planck scale) are strings (a string is actually made of discrete pieces, called string bits, each of which carries a discrete amount of momentum and energy). Particles ...more
Either I'm getting progressively dumber, or the books I'm reading are getting progressively harder for me to understand. Hopefully it's the latter of the two. I enjoyed this book in principle, however there was a lot that I had trouble understanding. I think I was able to grasp the basic ideas behind most of the theories mentioned, but some of the finer details may have been lost on me.
Still, Smolin does give very detailed explanations for the different versions of String Theory, Loop Quantum ...more
Still, Smolin does give very detailed explanations for the different versions of String Theory, Loop Quantum ...more
It's a complicated subject, no doubt. And Smolin does his best to make it narratively accessible. That being said, this book is disjointed and a bit impenetrable, not because Smolin doesn't understand the subject matter. He clearly does! But because his explanations of that subject matter don't seem to answer some basic "why?" and "how?" questions.
But then again, I'm not a physicist so I am probably not the best person to judge.
But then again, I'm not a physicist so I am probably not the best person to judge.
Do you know a similar book with a little more technical detail? This was an excellent popular treatment of quantum gravity and related topics but I have read several popular treatments now and find myself wanting to dust off my old math texts and go a little deeper. So if you know something that would challenge someone with a math background comparable to a math major in his junior year, please let me know.
Writing about complex topics, not to mention quantum theoretical physics, is tremendously challenging. Distilling dense, abstruse, and highly mathematized information down to the comprehension level of the average reader is a feat in itself. This is why good popular science- writing that can be accessed and enjoyed by that layperson- is scarce. Far too many academics fall prey to the so-called curse of knowledge, or the inability of the expert to condense and summarize information to novices.
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Not the typical quantum trip down the garden path leading from Aristotle, Galileo and Newton to Einstein, Bohr and Heisenberg. Instead Smolin waves his hand out the window as he Ferraris by classical and early mechanics gardens to take us for a spin on each of the three roads that will get us to his horizon point, quantum gravity being taught in high school classrooms by the end of the 21st century. To get up to speed, he takes the cat out of the Schrödingerian box and gives them some mice to
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Decent read for an inspiring string theorist.
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Background independence is the most successfully conveyed concept of the text. I wish non-commutative geometry was selves into though. It was mentioned quite a bit but left out in favor of explaining what a relational theory is. And even that explanation was lacking because of no attempt to explain topos theory. But then again, topas theory in quantum gravity is not well-received by the community and so I have no ...more
Good to hear about the other options.
Background independence is the most successfully conveyed concept of the text. I wish non-commutative geometry was selves into though. It was mentioned quite a bit but left out in favor of explaining what a relational theory is. And even that explanation was lacking because of no attempt to explain topos theory. But then again, topas theory in quantum gravity is not well-received by the community and so I have no ...more
A good intro to the (near) current state of the art, and in particular the idea that string theory and loop quantum gravity are just two ways of unifying general relativity and quantum mechanics starting from different end points the third road starts from neither. Im especially excited about the idea that maybe, just maybe, intuitionistic logic is the key to quantum gravity, but thats undoubtedly my personal bias showing through..
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Sketchymaybe just too soon for a book for the lay reader. For me, the most interesting part was the atomic (quantum) nature of space (and likely time as well). Makes me wonder if we need a quantum theory of time? (For more on this see eg. Rovellis Reality Is Not What It Seems and others....)
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Lee Smolin is a theoretical physicist who has made influential contributions to the search for a unification of physics. He is a founding faculty member of the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics. His previous books include The Trouble with Physics, The Life of the Cosmos and Three Roads to Quantum Gravity.
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