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Victory Conditions

(Vatta's War #5)

4.09  ·  Rating details ·  7,646 ratings  ·  278 reviews
A vast and hostile force is attacking prosperous trade centres, destroying their space fleets then moving on, leaving death and chaos in their wake. Admiral Ky Vatta’s family was decimated by one such attack and Turek, the pirate force’s leader, will not escape her vengeance.

Ky has a loyal taskforce, but the enemy have three times the ships and the firepower to match. She
Hardcover, 398 pages
Published February 19th 2008 by Del Rey Books (first published January 1st 2008)
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Apr 09, 2010 rated it liked it
Genre: Space Opera/Military Sci Fi

This is probably the weakest book of the Vatta’s War series, it wrapped everything up all neat and tidy but it took too many short-cuts. Despite the relationship between Gammis Turek (pirate leader) and Lew Parmina (former head of ISC, biggest company in the known universe) being critical to the success of the pirates in earlier books, it’s never explained WHY they were working together, or even that they WERE directly working together. It’s hinted at a lot, but
The Captain
Aug 13, 2018 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: sci-fi
Ahoy there me mateys! This here be a combined review of the fourth and fifth books of the Vatta’s War series. While I try to post no spoilers, if ye haven’t read books one through three and ye keep reading this log then ye have been forewarned and continue at yer own peril . . .

Well book four started out in an odd fashion. Book three ended suggesting a certain direction and then that didn’t happen. I really wanted to visit a specific planet. Alas. I also know I said that book three felt like a p
Apr 06, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
“Victory Conditions (Vatta’s War #5)” concludes the epic military scifi adventure story of Ky Vatta as she builds a unified space force to stand against pirates, and as her friends and family try to rebuild the economic empires of Vatta and InterStellar Communications Corporation (ISC) .

Politics, personalities, space battles, abductions, killings, deceptions, betrayals, declarations of love and fade to black (hetero) sex….this book covers lots of ground!

Raf still annoys me for some reason, but I
Benjamin Thomas
No, this isn't a blog entry about my Swedish campaign game in Empire Total War. Rather "Victory Conditions" is the name of the 5th and final book in Elizabeth Moon's "Vatta's War" series. This is a science fiction series that I started unexpectedly last year. You see, I was on a business trip and had run out of reading material. Now that's not a bad thing in my brain because it means I get to go to the bookstore and buy something that looks good to me right then and there. Since I have such a ba ...more
Somewhere - belatedly - around the halfway mark of Victory Conditions, I started wondering what exactly I was trying to prove by slogging through this series. I'd already given it a second and third chance to redeem itself, and each book seemed worse than the one before: characters behaved erratically, the plot made no sense whatsoever, Chekhov's whole freaking armory lay forgotten and gathering dust...

I'm sorry to report this one isn't any better. I don't know that I'd say it's the weakest inst
Jan 06, 2014 rated it really liked it
"If there's been a completely honest government in the history of humankind, no history book's ever mentioned it."

Excellent. Moon drew all the essential threads into a satisfying climax, and left enough to remind the reader that life goes on. Moon's forte is interpersonal relationships over interstellar distances. It's easy to get out of sync, and she explores many of the ways complex, if-bigger-than-life people get cross ways with each other and the world(s).

A good read of the space opera varie
Jan 22, 2014 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: 2016
Lexxi Kitty
I rather dislike Rafe.

December 5 2017


I rarely reread - much more so recently, but still I rarely reread. So the number of series I've reread, completely, can be counted on one hand. There's this series here - the Vatta War one (yes, it continues in Vatta Peace, but I've never read that one). Then, hmms, Jae's Hollywood series. Oh, heh, that's it. Those two. I came really close to rereading Jae's Shape-shifter series, I've read all but the last book and last two short stories, but . . . my ene
May 17, 2017 rated it it was amazing
short review of the series (huge novel split into 5) under Trading in danger
Timothy Boyd
Dec 17, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Nice wrap up book to the series. Overall a nice SiFi story. Good characters and plots. Enjoyable read. Recommended
Feb 12, 2016 rated it really liked it
Bottom line: I really enjoyed this series. Not ground-breaking, but everything about this series is solid.

The character development, plot, action, and military/political setup are solid, and this consistently better-than-adequate "quality," combined with how fun the series is, and fantastic (and discernibly different an believable) female characters, makes this a great read. I binged these suckers like I would marathon sci-fi television.

Vatta's War doesn't take itself too seriously, and it's n
Aug 20, 2019 rated it it was amazing
MOAR SPACE BATTLE PLZ. What's this Vatta's Peace I have to deal with next?? I hope she means peace like Peacekeeping missiles.
Kat  Hooper
Mar 04, 2013 rated it liked it
Shelves: audiobook
Originally posted at FanLit.

Victory Conditions is the fifth and final book in Elizabeth Moon’s VATTA’S WAR saga. This has been a solidly entertaining story with appealing characters and an unpredictable plot but it never quite pulls itself past its classification of “space opera.” If space opera is what you’re looking for, VATTA’S WAR delivers and this last installment, Victory Conditions, brings the Vatta story to a satisfying end. If you haven’t read the first
Althea Ann
Jun 02, 2013 rated it really liked it
Vatta's War series
1 Trading in Danger
2 Marque and Reprisal
3 Engaging the Enemy
4 Command Decision
5 Victory Conditions

These 5 books are not so much a series as one long novel - there's one story arc, and you really need to read all five to get to the (satisfying) conclusion. (I somehow had the misapprehension that there were only 4 in the series - luckily the public library came through and got me #5 expediently!)
Due to a misjudgement, Kylara Vatta, scion of an interstellar shipping business
Jan 03, 2009 rated it did not like it
I read this entire series over the past week, and, until the final volume, it was acceptably mediocre. Victory Conditions, however, is just terrible.

Space Opera inevitably descends into munchkin power gaming, and this is a prime example of how not to do it. Dei ex machina, painfully predictable plot coupons, and, when a whole bunch of minor characters who had spanned much of the series die violently, a three page gesture towards sorrow in an attempt to give the lead character some depth. Feh.
Jul 16, 2013 rated it liked it
Shelves: novels, scifi
Well I am finally done with Vatta's War and it's time to say what I think about it.
I would not recommend the serie, it's not bad but it's not an earth shattering read that absolutely needs to be done. The whole set of books gets a 3 stars rating for me, maybe I should qualify this. This is not really a set of 5 disconnected books but more a story told over 5 relatively short books. Character development is not really great and action is sometime sparse. All in all an average read, it will keep y
Mar 23, 2008 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2008
A remarkably fast read, with all the ends tied up nicely. Moon is the first author I've read whose space battles include discussions of debris fields and how shields help with that. I was also intrigued by the idea that the brain implants could become overloaded with unmaleable memories that, over time, become a problem for regular human consciousness. The very end seemed a bit sparse, but I'm probably just being greedy.
Jul 21, 2009 rated it really liked it
An excellent book & a good way to wind up the previous 4. I love that. The plot works itself out & the characters are just where they should be. There are some loose ends, but they're not bad ones. We know the survivors have a future. I was very impressed. As good as the Honor Harrington series & similar in many ways. ...more
Jun 17, 2020 rated it did not like it
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Sep 30, 2018 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction, read-2018
Happy ending for Ky.

Having read the series, I guess it's a good way to pass the time - but it didn't feel amazing.
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Jun 02, 2020 rated it it was amazing
Our copy of #4 of this series has gone awol, so I'll have to re-read that when it turns up again.

Naturally, given my mood, I've started on one of Moon's other space opera series now.
Feb 22, 2012 rated it really liked it
Shelves: library, want-to-own, 2014
02/2012 The conclusion of the Ky Vatta series. A satisfying conclusion to a good sci-fi series. You'll probably like this series if you like lot's of action. Moon is sparse enough with her space battles that they are never boring. The battles are well written and well conceived, factoring in spaceships that have lightspeed communications as well as those that can communicate faster than light. Moon also understands many of the possible problems inherent in space battles, and conveys them clearly ...more
Aug 17, 2018 rated it really liked it
Shelves: read-in-2018
I'm glad there are more books: as satisfying as the ending was, I still have questions.
Feb 11, 2009 rated it it was amazing
This is so like me--to read the last book in a series first. This novel totally rocks; no one writes action sequences--eg battles, stuff blowing up, etc.--better than Moon. I mean that literally; if I didn't think she'd find it insulting, I'd dub her the Tom Clancy of hard SF; she may be even better at action sequences than he. I read this book embarrassingly fast, getting into the war, the political instrigue, and the great battle scenes.

It's vintage Moon. You have a galactic society based larg
Aug 28, 2011 rated it it was amazing
The final installment to the Vatta's War series is one of the best books of the series. I found the ending satisfying, if a bit heartbreaking.

Ky has earned quite a reputations as a commander of a space force, yet it hasn't come without some tragedy. She's also been dealing with grief from family death, the loss of a way of life and being the cause of death of others - even though they may have been enemies, it doesn't feel that great to know she's the cause of so many deaths. She's also been a b
I had high hopes for this novel that didn't really fall apart until page 150. Although I found the book boring while reading it I kept hoping that it would be one of those "wrong book at the wrong time" kind of thing. However, after a third of the way through I knew it was the book and not me.

My major complaint with the novel was pacing. Entire chapters are giving to uncovering the ISC plot and the betrayal yet only two chapters for two major battles. I understand ISC was necessary for the stor
Feb 16, 2018 rated it really liked it
Shelves: read-2018
With this fifth volume Elizabeth Moon’s series Vatta’s War reaches its conclusion, and a very satisfying one at that. Until now we have been following Ky Vatta, heir to a family of interstellar traders, who was expelled from the Space Academy because of a mistake in judgment and who tried to re-build her life inside the family business. Faced with increasing challenges, including a vast network of pirates trying to take over space routes with the complicity of moles planted in various government ...more
Aug 15, 2014 rated it really liked it
A satisfying conclusion to the series, that wraps almost everything up neatly.

We never do get to figure out what the relationship is between Lew Parmina and Gammis Turek. Why are they working together? Lew seems to want power over ISC's monopoly; working with Turek seems sort of detrimental, especially once they start taking out ansibles, as that eats into ISC's profit significantly.

Also, there was some really odd foreshadowing with Pitt (the Mackensee soldier) at the very end of the book. The n
May 22, 2014 rated it liked it
Shelves: space-opera
Now having finished this relatively short series (I think all five together might fit inside a Brandon Sanderson novel, but that's not necessarily a bad thing) it's time to reflect.

I ended up rating each book in the series with three stars, which is about the lowest I'll rate a book that I'd still consider a recommendation.

Having originally read the Paksenarrion series way back and recently going through it again thanks to audiobooks, I was curious to see what Elizabeth Moon's military backgroun
Fantasy Literature
Jun 01, 2013 rated it liked it
Victory Conditions is the fifth and final book in Elizabeth Moon’s VATTA’S WAR saga. This has been a solidly entertaining story with appealing characters and an unpredictable plot but it never quite pulls itself past its classification of “space opera.” If space opera is what you’re looking for, VATTA’S WAR delivers and this last installment, Victory Conditions, brings the Vatta story to a satisfying end. If you haven’t read the first four books, go find the first book, Trading in Danger. If you ...more
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Elizabeth Moon was born March 7, 1945, and grew up in McAllen, Texas, graduating from McAllen High School in 1963. She has a B.A. in History from Rice University (1968) and another in Biology from the University of Texas at Austin (1975) with graduate work in Biology at the University of Texas, San Antonio.

She served in the USMC from 1968 to 1971, first at MCB Quantico and then at HQMC. She marrie

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