All You Zombies
Published in 1960, a reader and fan can see the early ideas for Time Enough for Love and I Will Fear No Evil. Was Heinlein a dirty old man? Yes, and in 1960, at the still young age of 53, he was just learning to fill ou ...more
... And why not? Consciousness creates itself according to Heinlein. Forget about the mythical divine genesis stuff or that Darwinian evolution bunk. This is the real thing, the theory with oomph: time travel comes with the Homo sapiens territory, at least for the ones who can hack it (it’s the rest who are zombies). The perks are pretty spectacular - picking when and where you’re born for a start. And none of the neurotic consequences of family life. Literally no ...more
However I did see a comedy British film with Zombies in it, does that count?
Anyways, this is a bartender travelling thingy as well.
It only took me half an hour to read.
Why did I read it?
Because my two grown adult children said the film came out in 2014 and I should watch it. They think I’ll enjoy it.
But I’ll give it a go
The two men talk of many things: writing "true confession" stories, love lives, cads who love em' and leave em'... It turns out the guy at the bar is intersex (born with both sex organs, raised as a woman but now a man). Introduce time travel and a paradox or three an ...more
Nostalgia hits again. :) Thinking about doing a lot more Heinlein reads fairly soon. :)
I had to reread this after just watching Predestination on which it was based. I was impressed with the movie but even more so with the story. I guess I picked up more nuances this time. It was all the more impressive because of how the character study really played out and what wasn't said but could be deduced. I think I can thank the movie more for that aspect, although one sto ...more
This Sci-Fi time travelling paradox was so bizarre that even at its modest page count really makes an impact.
It’s the type of story that I really enjoy!
The story starts with a young man walking into a bar and strikes up a conversation with the time-traveling bartender.
The reader soon learns how the two are connected and the significance of snake-swallowing-his-tail ring on the barke ...more
I have always been fascinated by the Time-travel genre, but this was simply mind-fuck of the highest order! O.O ...more
A man walks into a bar ... in this case that is NOT a joke. *lol*
The man is a writer and was born female. He has frequented the bar for the past few years but only now is talking to the bartender, telling his/her story of getting pregnant and ending up then and there.
The rest is a very surprising, mind-boggling time travel story full of paradoxes that makes perfect sense.
According to my research, Heinlein wrote this story in one afternoon. It's amazing if one considers all the ...more
Heinlein presents one of the most mind boggling paradoxes presented by, or rather resulted from, time travel. All time travel stories are complicated, they survive on a merry go round of events and a dramatic sequence of effect and consequence. But in “All You Zombies”, Heinlein goes a step farther and designs a story line of an infinite loop, where the interchange of cause and effect lands the reader into a ‘chicken and egg’ situation.
You ask who came first. Thematically the story says what do...more
If at Last You Do Succeed, Never Try Again.
A Stitch in Time Saves Nine Billion.
A Paradox May Be Paradoctored.
It Is Earlier When You Think.
Ancestors Are Just People.
Even Jove Nods.
A long time ago I've seen a movie called Predestination, but just recently I've found out that it was adopted from a short story called All You Zombies, so of course I had to read it. And just like the movie blew my mind, so did this story. The movie did add a lot of amazi ...more
I guess it's futile trying to express the true magnitude of Heinlein's imagination structuring this looped paradoxical tale.
**I'd watched the adaptation back in early 2014 when I had no big ideas about time travel, relativity (yeah, maybe a pretty dumb guy) and so was quite confusing but now it's totally different. It's awesome to find life so different in 3 years. ...more
Some time ago I have watched the movie “Predestination” by Michael Spierig, based on the story written by Heinlein.
The characters' structure is, apparently, simple.
In a bar, traumatized male A meets male B.
While talking, B reveals he was a female once, but her ovaries and uterus had been removed and the name has been changed.
B is also traumatized because she’d known a man ( let’s call him B´), and they had a child. …never to be seen again,… after ...more
It's about a man – no, wait! – a woman actually, – wrong again! – let's just say it's about a person. But not just any person, because it's the last one, who - no, aargh! - the first, or better the first, last and only one among nine billion, who — No, it's hopeless; I can't get it right. It's about the hen and the egg problem, OK?, and how one can fuck up to solve it. There you have it. I hope I've made myself ...more
A quick look-see at the movie's dets shows that it is in fac ...more
It all started with the Bar scene, a reluctant conversation between a man and the bartender, soon turns into an interesting one, then emotional and finally breaks into next level.
First twist of the story, I was like Okay! I am catching up , my expectations were very high (I ...more
"Mmm, years ago, Doesn't mean much today."
"I am as ruined as a woman can be; .... "
So, much depth in these three lines , completely change the story!
If you thought Inception was 'mindfuck' , I think this book/ short story gives it a tough competition.
The movie adaptation of this book 'Predestination' is one of those movies which actually do justice to the original! The movie is an extended version of this book and is way better!
But, the book is one of t ...more
Loved it - though sexist :)
(view spoiler)[Here's a timeline that will help - better viewed after reading the story (for the first time) - found on www.heinleinsociety.org:
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P.S. the movie Predestination was inspired from this short story - I recommend it too (may even clarify some things)
|What's the Name o...: SOLVED. Sci-fi read 20 yrs ago, time travel. Spoilers inside. [s]||3||41||Sep 09, 2018 05:32AM|
|Time Travel: Predestination (Cannes 2012 - bought by Sony)||12||79||Jan 07, 2017 05:00PM|
|Books2Movies Club: All You Zombies||12||32||Nov 08, 2015 10:12AM|
He set a high standard for science and engineering plausibility and helped to raise the genre's standards of literary quality. He was the first SF writer to break into mainstre ...more