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Dogma

(Spurious #2)

3.88  ·  Rating details ·  272 ratings  ·  25 reviews
A plague of rats, the end of philosophy, the cosmic chicken, and bars that don’t serve Plymouth Gin—is this the Apocalypse or is it just America?
 
“The apocalypse is imminent,” thinks W. He has devoted his life to philosophy, but he is about to be cast out from his beloved university. His friend Lars is no help at all—he’s too busy fighting an infestation of rats in his
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Paperback, 223 pages
Published February 21st 2012 by Melville House
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Paul Fulcher
Feb 26, 2017 rated it liked it
Shelves: 2017
Dogma is the second volume of Lars Iyer’s trilogy of novels that started with Spurious.

It has all of the fun, foibles and failings of the previous book, and my review for that can largely suffice for this.

This book is a little more expansive and if Lars and W. reminded me of Beavis and Butthead in the previous book, this one resembled Rob Brydon and Steve Coogan in The Trip:

W. does impressions of me to cheer them up ... but our hosts are unmoved.

Our hosts don't understand our bickering W. says.
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Anna
Aug 14, 2013 rated it really liked it
I found 'Dogma' funnier than Spurious, despite it being less concerned by Lars' mould-afflicted flat. I think the difference is that I have become far more bitter and cynical about academia, thus more receptive to the type of mockery advanced here. Once again, Lars and W. wander drunkenly about, fulminating on the precipitous downfall of academia, society, the world, and themselves. W. continually berates Lars and yet apparently sees within him some vain hope for the future. W.'s rants are very ...more
Victoria
Is there thought outside the university philosophy department? the answer seems to be no, so the reduction and even elimination of liberal arts departments portends a new dark age -- it seems -- or at least, the end of philosophy is thus at hand -- it seems. Toward the end of Dogma, volume two of a trilogy that began with Spurious and will...end...with Exodus, it began to seem possible that that would be A Good Thing.

In any case, I'm on board for Exodus, whatever it might contain, including a pa
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Lakis Fourouklas
Feb 13, 2012 rated it it was amazing
Dogma, unlike the author’s previous novel, Spurious, has received mixed reviews. The latter was welcomed as a masterpiece, but when it came to the former the critics were not that enthusiastic. Now that I have read the novel I can say that I really wonder why? Why did they not like it as much as Spurious? For me this a great novel, as it combines humor, irony, philosophical thought, amazing discussions-monologues and a peripatetic mood.
Even though Dogma is the second novel in a not so closely k
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Jason Pettus
Jan 11, 2012 rated it really liked it
(Reprinted from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography [cclapcenter.com]. I am the original author of this essay, as well as the owner of CCLaP; it is not being reprinted illegally.)

By all laws of the current literary market, the comedic novels Spurious and Dogma by philosopher Lars Iyer (comprising two-thirds of an as-yet unfinished trilogy) shouldn't really exist at all, and it's a testament to the suddenly hot Melville House that they've not only published them, but have been promo
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Neil
Dec 27, 2016 rated it liked it
Shelves: 2016
Part two of the trilogy that started with Spurious. I think it's less of a trilogy and more of a single book published in three volumes: this one starts off as if it is simply the next page of the previous one and continues from there.

More of the same, really. There is more plot here than in Spurious. W. and Lars go on a disastrous lecture tour and set up their Dogma philosophy in response. The tenets of Dogma are a bit variable but seem to always require a lot of gin. The apocalypse is still ve
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Caleb Wilson
Feb 22, 2012 rated it it was amazing
Dark comedy of philosophy, pretension, insults, and frenimosity. Very little actually happens, but the droning, gleefully gloomy voice of the narrator, Lars, and the strident bile of his friend W. (whose most hurtful words are all carefully recorded here by Lars himself) are weirdly engrossing. Hilariously, one of the few actions these two failed philosophers take besides going for walks around Plymouth and drinking is a lecture tour to the American south, where they visit Nashville, Memphis, an ...more
Melanie Wilson
Jan 15, 2012 rated it it was amazing
This book is absolutely ridiculous. I didn't want it to end. Can't wait for the third volume in the trilogy. I want to hang out with these characters. They make me feel better about myself and the state of the world. ...more
Heather
Jun 08, 2012 rated it liked it
Like Spurious, Dogma follows the meanderings of Lars and W., two English academics who share a tendency toward the apocalyptic and a fondness for gin. As in the last book, there is a lot of angst: about horrors both big (the end-times) and personal (the failure to read and write and work). And as in the last book, W. spends a whole lot of time disparaging Lars, whose stupidity, according to W., is endless. In this book, W. worries about losing his job—there are rumors that his university is rest ...more
Lee Razer
Feb 28, 2013 rated it it was ok
Further adventures of Lars and W., Britain's most misanthropic and despairing professors of philosophy. Perhaps it was a mistake on my part to read this right after reading Spurious, the first novel in this trilogy of eruditely absurdist slagging off. About halfway through I started to find this getting tiresome, and not at all as amusing as I found Spurious. Perhaps my general attitude shifted. Or perhaps the book really did tail off. At any rate, all my notes came from the first half of the no ...more
Will
Feb 07, 2013 rated it really liked it
LOVE IT! Lars and W. back together, this time in America, drinking their way into deeper depression even than in Spurious. Love the flow of these books, now that I'm two-thirds of the way through this Spurious Trilogy, or whatever it's called. But the books are filled with philosophy, misanthropy, a deep hope in the endtimes, and a lot of goodtimes in between. The rhythm of the each little paragraph is hypnotic, tons of reported speech by W. (to Lars, the narrator), like this one from their Amer ...more
ecehan panahi
May 05, 2017 rated it it was amazing
<3
Ian
Mar 13, 2012 rated it it was amazing
Finally, a book about a character who hates Jandek as much as I do.
Kobe Bryant
Apr 01, 2014 rated it really liked it
This is just like the last book only this time Lars has rats in his house instead of fungus
Jim
Jan 08, 2014 rated it really liked it
It’s not necessary to have read Spurious beforehand but it will help a little (if only to explain a bit about Lars’ living conditions). Really, though, you can just jump into this rollercoaster of a novel and enjoy the ride. Don’t worry that you don’t understand most of it and don’t feel you have to look up every archaic philosophical work or strange expression (I wasted ages trying to understand the concept of eternullity and was none the wiser). Most of what they say doesn’t make much sense an ...more
Joe
Dec 19, 2016 rated it really liked it

Two warnings; two ameliorations. Warnings: the following reading is iconoclastic, and I have yet to read either the precursor (Spurious) or the sequel (Exodus). Ameliorations: even should the author publicly decry this review as blasphemous, the reading still works effectively, and as with the trilogies of Davies and Nichols, this middle novel stands alone quite well.
Dogma opens with a lecture tour from Britain to southern United States. Iyer seems to take the South as emblematic of the schlock
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James
May 10, 2012 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2012
The sequel to Spurious: A Novel. The continuation of the pretentious, philosophical, drunken ramblings of Lars and W. I think I enjoyed this one more as the two characters do a bit more (e.g., visit America, face unemployment) that forces them to think more about their situation in a more controlled way. Not for everyone, but very amusing. ...more
Vincent
Mar 27, 2013 rated it it was amazing
Continuing very much along the path forged by Spurious, Dogma is not a surprise but somehow feels more complete, packed with insults, anxieties, and, of course, gin. On to Exodus!
Tom Buchanan
Dec 27, 2012 rated it did not like it
If you wrote a grad thesis on Franz Rosenzweig and think everyone should me more excited about it, you may like this book.
Christy
May 30, 2013 rated it liked it
Shelves: read-2013
Suffers a little from middle child syndrome.
Brad
Apr 25, 2012 rated it really liked it
My review may be found here. ...more
Michael Hedrick
Sep 02, 2012 rated it it was amazing
More Brit humour from Lars and W. Insults and laughs on every page!
Mark Findlater
Did have Josh T Person in it.
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Mar 28, 2013 rated it really liked it
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Lars Iyer is the author of the novel Wittgenstein Jr (2014). He has also written a trilogy of novels – Spurious, Dogma and Exodus. Iyer has also written two scholarly books on the work of Maurice Blanchot. He teaches philosophy at Newcastle University in the UK.

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Spurious (3 books)
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“You have to be gentle with the young, W. says. They're a gentle generation, like fauns, he says, and require a special tenderness. Their lives are going to be bad--very bad--and, at the very least, we should be tender with them, and not remind them of what is to come.” 1 likes
“Akademisyenliğin ritmini hiç anlamıyorsun," diyor W. İlmin mevsimlerini, ekim mevsimini, filize bakıp onunla ilgilenmeyi, hasadı, düşüncenin mahsulünü toplama dö­nemini hiç bilmiyormuşum.

Her yaz başı W.'nin düşlediği buymuş: Yaklaşan son­ bahar, düşünce mahsullerinin olgunlaşıp toplanmaya ha­zır hale geldiği, rüzgarla eğildiği sonbahar. Güneş yanığı kollarıyla suladığı, bin bir özenle bakıp büyüttüğü fikir­lerin hasadını toplamayı düşlemiş hep.

Düşünceyi eleme süreci varmış bir de. Düşüncenin harmanını savurmak. Sapı samandan ayırmak. "Ama sa­man hep karışacak," diyor W. En büyük düşünürler bile samandan kurtulamaz. Yine de buğday vardır. Yıl boyu verilen emeğin kanıtı ortadadır.
Ama ne anlarmış W. bunlardan? Mahsulü bereketsiz olmuş. Her zamanki gibi. Boş tarlada yalnız başına ağlı­yormuş şimdi.

"Ah, ne zaman keşfedeceğiz çalışmamızı, gerçekten çalış­mamızı mümkün kılacak ritmi? Ne zaman o sabit basınç her günü bir iş gününe çevirecek, her gün önceki günden aldığı güçle bir adım daha ileri gidecek?"
Momentum: düşünce tarafından fırlatılmak, serbest bırakılmak, düşüncenin sapanından çıkan bir taş gibi. İşte o zaman iş dünyevi değil, semavi olacak. Yıldızlar gibi, yörüngesinde dönen gezegenler gibi çalışacağız o za­man. Yaptığımız işler galaksilerin aheste dönüşleriyle, evrenin sabit bir şekilde sonsuza genişlemesiyle bir ola­cak. Eylemsizlikten, bir tanrının dinlenmesinden farkı kalmayacak.

"Belki de aradığımız şey bir tür Şabat'tır," diyor W. Gözlerimizi kapayacağımız bir zaman; ama sadece din­lenmek için değil, toparlanmak, iyileşmek için. Emeğimi­ze sadece içeriden değil, dışarıdan da bakabilmeliyiz. Kim demişti bunu? Daha büyük eserlerin, ilahi bir emeğin bize dokunmasına izin vermeliyiz. Ancak o zaman ger­çekten çalışmaya başlayabiliriz, kendi kanalımızın merkezine gizli bir akımla taşınmış gibi.

Kendimizi kanatıncaya kadar çalışmamız gerektiği­ni söylüyor W. Gözlerimiz kan çanağına dönene, burnu­muzdan kan fışkırana dek. Çünkü kendimize ait bir fikir bulunca olacağı bu: Burun deliklerimizden kan fışkıra­cak. Kan damlaları, fikirlerimizi yazdığımız sayfalara boşalacak.
Bütün yazılar içinde, kanla yazılanı seviyorum bir tek. Nietzsche demiş bunu. Kanla yazmak, ama bizim kanı­mızla değil. "Tanrı'nın kanıyla yazacağız," diyor W. gi­zemli bir sesle. Burun deliklerimizden fışkıran Tanrı'nın kanı olacak..”
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