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Saints Astray

(Santa Olivia #2)

3.62  ·  Rating details ·  2,907 ratings  ·  321 reviews
Fellow orphans, amateur vigilantes, and members of the Santitos, Loup Garron-the fugitive daughter of a genetically engineered "wolf man"-and Pilar Ecchevarria grew up in the military zone of Outpost 12, formerly known as Santa Olivia. But now they're free, and they want to help the rest of the Santitos escape. During a series of escapades, they discover that Miguel, Loup' ...more
ebook, 368 pages
Published November 22nd 2011 by Grand Central Publishing (first published January 1st 2011)
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Oct 01, 2011 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: readers of fanfics
Recommended to Mariel by: Voldemort
My life may end up being long, long and still not long enough or too short the way that I can waste hours playing Angry Birds and still feel it wasn't enough time to try to beat level 3.15. If I persist in reading Saints Astray it will be too long no matter the outcome. I lose no matter what. Sooooo boring. My senses are too dull to come up with more descriptions of how boring. I have butter knives sharper than this! Okay, I lied but see (butter melts in my mouth!)? What I came up with wasn't go ...more
Tim Hicks
The further I got into this the less I liked it. Volume 1 had some interesting concepts and characters and conflicts. This one makes Danielle Steel seem like Jorge Luis Borges. Perhaps someone who reads Harlequins can tell us how close this is to one of theirs.

I suppose I should reflect the book by having 20% of this review be "ooh baby I can't wait to ..ahh!" I have problem with having such scenes in the book, but there are way too many, and they're sickly sweet.

Loup shows flickers of being
Duffy Pratt
"Astray" is the operative word here. Loup Garron is back, but for most of this book she lacks any direction. There's lots going on here, but it's not going anywhere. Having escaped from Gitmo, I mean Outpost, Loup and Pilar have some fun on the beach in Mexico, get recruited for bodyguard training and pack off to Scotland. Then do security for a fashion designer, for a mafia family in Sicily, for the bratty daughter of a Swiss banker in Geneva, and for a Pop band in Australia and Japan.

Nov 29, 2011 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sf
Did you know that Loup and Pilar love each other? Because OMG they tooootally do. Like, so much.
Jan 09, 2012 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Sweet, fun, action-y teenage wish-fulfillment fantasy with a social justice edge. Slow build, fun payoff, would be great beach reading.

This would be great young adult fiction, but for all the swearing and sex. Which is to say it is great young adult fiction, but I don't know that teachers and librarians should go about handing it out that way. I'd recommend it for both boys and girls old enough to appreciate a sensual love story and a principled struggle.

Carey enjoys spoiling the characters sh
The conclusion to the charming but limited Santa Olivia takes the duology one step higher because it addresses the main niggles I had with the first volume (limited worldbuilding and way too much boxing); will add a full FBC Rv soon and talk more but a very good book from all points of view this time

The whole world is the canvas and Loup kicks butt all ways

Full FBC Rv:

INTRODUCTION: "Fellow orphans, amateur vigilantes, and members of the Santitos, Loup Garron-the fugitive daughter of a geneticall
Jan 18, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
OMG! This was soooooooo good!
I think I would come back later on with more sensible thoughts because I simply can't put into words all my feelings for this book, but I am trying to write something anyway.

This book was really different from the first one and it wasn't at all as I was expecting it. It was strange at some points because while I was reading I was enjoying it immensely, but then you have to close the book (as much as we love to read and do nothing else, there is always the life that
The North Wall
I was really looking forward to this book. I loved Santa Olivia; it was so much fun seeing Carey let loose into a modern world, the characters were entertaining and lovable, the tiny, locked-in community of Outpost was interesting and beautifully drawn. So where the hell did this one go wrong?

This sequel is so bad, I almost did myself an ocular mischief thanks to the amount of eye rolling that occurred as I was reading it. Lou and Pilar skip through a series of wish-fulfilling events where they
Dec 19, 2011 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
That's it. I'm abandoning this, even though my love for Santa Olivia meant I soldiered past my usual 100-page trial period cutoff. GOD. This book just sucks. There is NO plot tension other than their ridiculously written cliche dyke drama. It reads like a bad beach novel. Every sentence Pilar says to Loup ends in "baby," and all they're doing even halfway through the book is security detail for spoiled celebrities. UGH. Oh, and then they "smolder" in various lavish hotel beds across the globe. ...more
Huh. That was...really kinda goofy. The big "obstacles" were too easily overcome, I think - there's no real sense of menace (or, oddly for how often they talk about/physically demonstrate it, a sense of love between Pilar and Loup). The emotions in the book came off kind of forced and cutesy.

It reads, as a few of the other reviewers have said, much like stilted YA (with much cussing and sex) or like fanfic, complete with descriptions of shopping trips and clothes (Have you ever noticed how often
What a disappointment! I really wanted to like this book but it was not nearly as interesting as the first one (Santa Olivia). I've read Jacqueline Carey quite a bit and so far this is her cheesiest, least convincing book. It is a light read, and it does feature queer women of color, but that's about all I can say for it. However the relationship between the women featured a lot of unnecessary-seeming reassurances that they weren't jealous of each other, and a lot of "I love you baby" type lines ...more
Oct 03, 2013 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Regretably, read like authorial wish fufillment.

The only vaguely positive thing I can say about the book was there were 2 female main characters and it attempted to be positive about same sex relationships.

The somewhat gritty dystopian feel of the original book was completely lost as the 2 leads, went on a shopping spree, went to a Mexican resort, "trained" in becoming secret agents, "guarded" a fashion designer, and culminated with guarding a "superstar pop band" who are becoming edgy. Yawn.

Apr 04, 2011 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
I find myself wanting to give Saints Astray two different ratings: one for how happy I am for its heroines, Loup Garron and Pilar Ecchevarria, and the other for how well Saints Astray works as a novel. I love the characters and am glad their lives have become easier since the events of Santa Olivia, but the result is a book that does not have enough tension or conflict.

Loup and Pilar have escaped Outpost and travel to Mexico, where they enjoy a brief idyll in the company of Loup’s relatives on h
I took a long time with this one, because honestly, I was a little bit bored with it. I really enjoyed Santa Olivia, but with this one, there hardly seemed to be any conflict at all. Pilar and Loup got along wonderfully, absolutely, completely over the conflict they had in the previous book, completely madly in love. I couldn't have been more bored with the romance in this one, and Jacqueline Carey usually tells a fantastic love story. I think back to Phedre and Joscelin, Imriel and Sidonie, Moi ...more
Jan 25, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Saints Astray is a fun follow-up to Santa Olivia, following Pilar and Loup as they find a way for themselves in the wider world outside their cordoned off district. Refreshingly, after the ups and downs of their relationship in Santa Olivia, the two are devoted to each other and while they do experience moments of doubt, these are quickly put to rest. Maybe the one thing that did bother me was how many people around Loup turned out to be ‘one in a hundred’s — people attracted to her despite the ...more
Kat Hagedorn

Bloody hell. I really only got how awful this was until halfway through, by which point I figured I might as well take it to its end. If only because it's super quick read and to see the characters go back to Outpost again. Yea, sorry if I ruined that for you, but... nah. I'm not. Don't pick this up.

The first book is really pretty good- it has such an interesting premise and Carey takes it in weird directions. This follow-up is the result of Carey's agent saying "all th
This is a very different book from Santa Olivia. And that's not entirely bad.

I enjoyed seeing Loup and Pilar running around having adventures and being in love. If that had been the entire book, I would have been completely okay with it. I'm a fan of light-hearted fluff, especially if it means queer girls get to be happy. I didn't even mind the late addition of a little bit of plot, which, while probably overly optimistic about how the U.S. political system actually works, did fit with the wish
Dec 13, 2011 rated it liked it
As indicated by my three stars the book was fine, neither spectacular nor boring. If I had read this book without having read Santa Olivia I would have had no connection with, nor commitment to the characters in the story.

On its own this book is a nice light read with a bit of action, a bit of romance, and a bit of state of the world commentary. All these things make the book an enjoyable light read.

Having read Santa Olivia and become so intimately connected to Loup Garron and the intense depth
Dec 16, 2011 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
This sequel was good but definitely not as good as it's predecessor. It lagged in some places and I got a bit tired of Loup and Pilar's relationship by the end as it mostly consisted of sex and little else. I wish that there had been a little more thought put into the story line as everything seemed to happen at the end of the story. There were days when I was in the middle of reading this book that I didn't pick it up at all because it just wasn't holding my interest. With that said, I still th ...more
Grainne Rhuad
Dec 12, 2011 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
If I could give this book less than zero I would.

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Ms. Carey, but this book just fell flat.

Following the first installment 'Santa Olivia' which was quite interesting and innovative, this book just didn't meet the mark.

I was left feeling as if she were trying to write to a younger audience and failing all the way. The kissy face pubescent romance was a sickening distraction and there was no intrigue to speak of.

Epic Fail.
Jul 17, 2012 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I loved the first book and that's why I wanted to read this book. I am SO disappointed in this book, though!

There are a lot of dialogues in the book and they all feel either forced or macho like. The plot isn't that eventful and I never had this "oh-I-want-to-get-back-to-my-book" feeling.

Read the first book (Santa Olivia), but stay away from this one!
Fifi LaFleur
I love Jacqueline Carey. I enjoyed this book. I like the characters a lot, I think Ms. Carey does a wonderful job capturing the intelligent yet naive characters of Pilar and Loup. I like the general plot and found it rather touching and positive, I just found it a bit meandering.
Jun 19, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Yeah, it wasn't as strong as the first book. And, yeah, the "I love you, baby" stuff gets kinda repetitive and old. But...come on! Such a delicious romp of happy wish fullfilment for our heroines! How can you not love it! That'd be like hating on fuzzy puppies! ...more
Definitely not as good of a book as the first one, but a very fun read. The plot was sort of all over the place, it didn't feel tight and neat and everything just sort of... lolled and happened. But then it all happened to a backdrop of Loup and Pilar being happy and falling deeper in love and getting through shit together which I loved.

ETA: Jesus, I can't believe I forgot. One thing that bugged me a LOT about this book was all the predators and how lightly they were treated. Charlie in particul
JG (Introverted Reader)
This was such a disappointing waste of time that I might have to write my first real review in a couple of years when I get home.
Jul 23, 2019 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
2.5 star rating
As much as i liked the preceding book in this series, this unfortunately didn't live up. This was unnecessarily long and obviously leading to boredom.
There are moments i liked and truly enjoyed but in general the story was a bore due to its length
Apr 29, 2020 marked it as deals  ·  review of another edition
29 April 2020: $1.99 on Kindle ...more
May 24, 2018 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
After being enthralled by the first novel in the Santa Olivia series, I found this one very slow going through to about the midway point. I was reluctant to pick it up and kept finding reasons to not read. But I persevered and enjoyed the path that the novel took once the main plotline really got going. I still thought Loup was an amazing character, but I really didn't like Pilar. Their relationship was just too much. Please be assured, it wasn't the fact that they were gay that caused me issues ...more
Jessica ❁ ➳ Silverbow ➳ ❁
2.5 stars

Can you like a story and be disgusted with it at the same time?

I think you can.

If you haven't read Santa Olivia, book 1 of this duology, then BEWARE: this review is rife with spoilers from the previous book. It basically contains a plot summary that I didn't include in the review (b/c spoilers), to better explain why I was so thoroughly disappointed in this concluding chapter.

In Santa Olivia, we meet Loup Garron (heh), the daughter of a 100% normal human and a Genetically Modified Organ
Jun 26, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A really enjoyable read and satisfying in many different ways. Could this story plot actually happen in real life? It's entirely plausible and that's a frightening thought. ...more
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Jacqueline Carey (born 1964 in Highland Park, Illinois) is an author and novelist, primarily of fantasy fiction.

She attended Lake Forest College, receiving B.A.'s in psychology and English literature. During college, she spent 6 months working in a bookstore as part of a wo

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