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The Wild Palms: [If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem]

3.88  ·  Rating details ·  3,091 Ratings  ·  206 Reviews
In this feverishly beautiful novel—originally titled If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem by Faulkner, and now published in the authoritative Library of America text—William Faulkner interweaves two narratives, each wholly absorbing in its own right, each subtly illuminating the other. In New Orleans in 1937, a man and a woman embark on a headlong flight into the wilderness of illi ...more
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Published May 18th 2011 by Vintage (first published 1939)
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This Novel's Dialogue is Downright Embarrassing

I've read that other writers sometimes laughed at the dialogue in some of Faulkner's novels. I'm no Faulkner scholar; after having read or re-read nearly all of his novels now though, I'd say this book is THE primary suspect. While conversations were not Faulkner's strong suit, the conversations between the two lovers here is so clumsy it could be mistaken for overdramatic middle school improv. I am not exaggerating when I say that I've never read a
Dec 21, 2012 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Greatest Faulkner book I have read so far! Fan-bloody-tastic. I liked this even better than Absalom! Absalom! And it was much easier to follow.

The Wild Palms is a novel which actually consists of two different stories. Faulkner decided to interweave two different stories to build each respective story more towards its climax. Faulkner actually wanted to call this novel If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem but his editors insisted on calling it The Wild Palms, the title of ONE of the two stories in this n
Jun 21, 2012 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
La singolarità della struttura, unita al virtuosismo dello stile, rischia di mettere a dura prova il lettore meno paziente.
Tuttavia se si entra nel meccanismo e ci si lascia prendere dal ritmo solenne e dal realismo visionario di queste storie, ci si rende conto di trovarsi di fronte a un’opera insolita e di grande valore.
I due romanzi che la compongono, narrati a capitoli alterni, si snodano parallelamente percorrendo luoghi e tempi diversi.
All’apparenza non hanno nulla in comune,
Aug 21, 2009 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: louisiana
There he is, the Old Man, the river that is something of a deity in the American South. The muddy water that threatens and nurtures and has a will and a force that can not be predicted or tamed, even in our time.

In this book you have a prisoner struggling against the whims of the Mississippi. Convicts are enlisted to rescue stranded peasants. A tall convict is asked if he can row a boat, he says he can, probably because he doesn't know what he is promising. The point is made that this convict al
Oct 20, 2013 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: stati-uniti
Due racconti, separati e distinti, si dividono la singolare struttura alternata di questo romanzo. Avrei voluto trovare un motivo, un collegamento inequivocabile tra le due vicende; purtroppo non sono stato sufficientemente attento. È stata una lettura molto amara: non mi sentivo testimone, ma vittima dei pensieri e delle azioni dei protagonisti; della duplicità della narrazione, che trovavo sleale nei miei confronti; degli eventi, che non riuscivo a confinare tra le pagine. Per queste ragioni n ...more
Feb 07, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: owned-books, amerika
divlje palme su roman o (zlosretnoj) ljubavi.
izmeshana poglavlja, dobro poznati unutrashnji monolog karakteristichan za ovog pisca (kao i prusta i dzhojsa), savrsheno izvajane (pre)duge rechenice i slavni zavrshetak jedne priche od starta osudjene na propast. ' da, mislio je on, izmedju bola i nishtavila ja cu izabrati bol.' (hari vilborn)
fokner je pisac i po!
Eddie Watkins
May 13, 2008 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: american-fiction
Charley Patton's 2-part song "High Water Everywhere" is about the same flood portrayed in this book. This little factoid, realized after I finished the book, made me swoon.

I couldn't finish the book the first time I tried, as I was in college and still thought in the back of my head that my girlfriend and I could just drop out and "live on love". The impossibility of this strategy so hammered home in this book really frightened me at the time, but instead of finishing the book and learning my le
Jun 08, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Difícil avaliar esse livro, ainda mais do modo que li. Um, traduzido, sendo a linguagem tão essencial para Faulkner e a quem se propõe a ler e ainda mais a gostar dele. Dois, entremeei a leitura do Palmeiras com dezenas de outras obras.

Admiro a tenacidade dele enquanto escritor, a obsessão por contar histórias e pôr voz em todos os fodidos dos campos largados da América, sejam fodidos por destino (o prisioneiro, neste livro) ou por opção (Wilbourne), se é que há diferença. Em todos os fodidos po
Initial review:
Wow. Empathize this: a woman dashes away from her two children and husband for "freedom" and dysfunctional "love", even, or especially, when it means living hand to mouth. A "doctor" relinquishes his freedom for her and risks his life for that shadowy bond that may enable his escape from life and responsibility. And a convict is tossed about on the raging flooding Mississippi, yet constrained to act morally and ethically, simultaneously rising above, and being restrained by, his s
Mohsen Rajabi
Feb 27, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
آدمهای داستانهای فاکنر معمولا عادی نیستند... نویسنده معمولا شخصیتهایی خلق میکند که بسیار برجستهاند و به خوبی در جامعه متمایز میشوند. قهرمان اصلی نخلهای وحشی، شارلوت است، زنی که در هیچیک از قالبهای سنتی که برای زنان در نظر گرفتهاند نمیگنجد. هری نیز از طرفی دیگر مردی است که نمیتواند مشغولیتها و زندگیای عادی را که برای همهی مردان در نظر گرفته میشود، در پیش بگیرد. البته آشنایی با شارلوت نیز در رفتاری که هری از خود نشان میدهد مؤثر است، ولی در ابتدا نیز چیزی در او هست که در مردان عادی جامعه نیست.
در ای
This is a Faulkner must-read, but not without some problems. "Wild Palms" is as modernist a novel as anything by Virginia Woolf. The alternating stories - which seem to have no surface relationship whatsoever, is daring and artsy stuff. But does it work? The "Wild Palms" portion tells the story of two lovers, one who is married, who cast everything to the wind in order to live a bohemian life devoted to Love. I noticed one reviewer commented that theirs was a selfless love. Quite the contrary. O ...more
Sep 30, 2011 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Me ha costado mucho terminarla, de hecho la abandoné antes de llegar a la mitad, y, la verdad, no entiendo por qué la crítica considera esta novela la obra maestra de Faulkner. Supongo que no estoy preparada para apreciar las virtudes de este escritor. Desde el principio pensé que el hecho de que se alternaran dos historias tan diferentes entre sí cobraría sentido al final, cuando ambas convergiesen al coincidir los dos hombres, el médico y el fugado, en la misma cárcel; pero no solo no ocurre e ...more
Kay Wright
I'm an Faulkner addict, slogged my way through Abaslom, Absalom, and fell in love with Light in August. When our bookclub decided to each do a classic, I found this early piece that I had missed during my quest to read all Faulkner. (I got into the early Hollywood junk and gave up but that's another story.) If I Forget Thee Jerusalem, which was published as the Wild Palms over WF's objections, is two stories that never intertwine. I had read one of them, the convict who rescues the pregant woman ...more
Kenneth Iltz
I haven’t read William Faulkner for a long time. Often, I find his books difficult reading. This is not the case with Wild Palms. The book is comprised of two stories, a love story and a river story, entitled "Wild Palms" and "Old Man.”.
"Wild Palms" tells the story of Harry and Charlotte, who meet, fall in forbidden love, travel the country together for work, and, ultimately, experience tragedy when the abortion Harry performs on Charlotte kills her. "Old Man" is the story of a convict who, whi
Jun 17, 2012 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Lievi anticipazioni (non più comunque di quanto appaia nel risguardo)
Generalmente prima di iniziare un nuovo libro, lo sfoglio, lo soppeso, ne leggo il risguardo - per la precisione - lo rileggo. La prima lettura era già avvenuta all'acquisto ma questa nuova è fondamentale per le precedenze, mi deve colpire in quel momento particolare in modo da indicarmi il libro da iniziare. In questo caso, però, tale lettura è stata nociva. Mi ha distratto dal godimento spontaneo del testo. Il lettore viene a
Zoha tajik
رمانهای کلاسیک یک جوری اند که آدم را درون خودشان میکشند، میگذارند با شخصیتهاش خو بگیری و بشناسیشان. و نخلهای وحشی از این قاعده مستثنا نبود. میدانم که پس از این علاوه بر توم جاد خوشه های خشم و آنا کارنینا و و خیلی از شخصیتهای خیالی دلم برای شارلوت، ویلبورن و زندانی بند قد این رمان هم تنگ می شود. و دلم برای شارلوت بیشتر از همه شان!
למעשה יש כאן שני סיפורים שונים האמורים להעצים האחד את השני בדרכים נסתרות מעצם שילובם בכריכה אחת. הסיפור הטוב מבין השניים הוא "האיש הזקן". אל תצפו לעלילה. יש כאן בעצם תיאור מסע המתרחש בנוף אפוקליפטי/סוריאליסטי, מעין גרסא מודרנית לסיפר גן העדן וכמובן המבול, עם אינספור אזכורים לבראשית. הכל סימבולי מאוד, מיתי ומעגלי. גירוש חוזר ונשנה מגן העדן, עד לסגירת המעגל. יש כאן כתיבה יפה של פוקנר וכמה תיאורים מרשימים של השיטפון הגדול והתמודדות האדם הבודד (תמיד בודד) איתו.

סיפורם של הארי ושרלוט לעומת זאת הוא בעי
Silvia Sirea
Apr 22, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Un libro impetuoso e prepotente. Passionale e amaro. Due storie diverse raccontate simultaneamente che non hanno niente in comune - a parte qualche sottile riferimento che mi è sembrato di aver colto, ma potrei anche starmi sbagliando.
I capitoli si susseguono alternandosi a raccontare le vicende delle Palme selvagge e de Il Vecchio.

Il Vecchio è il nome con cui ci si riferisce al fiume Mississipi, croce e delizia di chi abita nelle sue terre. In questi capitoli viene narrata la storia di un'inond
Can someone please tell me what I just read?
There is so much detail in this book, told with an almost stream of consciousness style, that I feel like I was mesmerised and missed most of it. I was caught in the flood, but it wasn’t a physical flood – or was it?
It begins with a seemingly passionless passion and covers such a range of emotions that the walk through the snow describes perfectly that it becomes difficult to process everything in its intensity.
That I had just read Richard Brautigan’s
Brian Willis
May 25, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
As usual, Faulkner's writing intersperses consciousness streaming prose with moments of intense beauty and suffering. In this novel with alternating stories, one sees two very different protagonists make very different decisions about their life, both almost casual and instinctual but with very different results. The story told in "The Wild Palms" section of the book is vivid, intense, and at times very harrowing (how did Faulkner get away with the subject matter in 1938? Wow). "The Old Man" is ...more
Ehsan Sharei
Mar 29, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
جایی خواندم که فالکنر داستان نخلهای وحشی را به نوعی ناقص و ناتمام حس میکرده، و به همین دلیل داستان دیگری به نام پیرمرد را در میان فصلهای آن گنجانده است. این دو داستان که به ظاهر هیچ وجه تشابهی با هم ندارند به طرزی معجزه آسا در فصلهای پایانی کتاب یکدیگر را به خوانند یادآوری میکنند. کتاب همانند همه آثار دیگر فالکنر دارای لحظاتی خاص و ناب و نفسگیر است که آن را در میان آثار ادبی بزرگ جهان قرار میدهد. نثر ادبی کتاب و البته ترجمه فارسی کمی پایین تر از سطح آثار دیگر فالکنر نظیر خشم و هیاهو، آبشالوم آبش ...more
Vit Babenco
Apr 10, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The Wild Palms appeared to me the most beautiful novel ever written by William Faulkner. Two parallel tales of love and agony are permeated with the ultimate humanism.
“Given the choice between the experience of pain and nothing, I would choose pain.”
Love creates suffering and suffering makes us human.
Jun 09, 2015 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This must be my least favorite from Faulkner.
Kienan Aguado
Jun 27, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Not your typical "love story" which I enjoyed. Time moves quickly in this one... A bit hard to keep up at times. However, the writing is outstanding. Love the way Faulkner spoke.
Eddie Tafoya
Jun 15, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Faulkner's unappreciated masterpiece. Especially the "Old Man" sections.
Dillwynia Peter
Jul 30, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Also previously published as: If I forget thee, Jerusalem.

If I forget the, Jerusalem; let my right hand forget thy cunning; Take thy children and their heads against the stones; Let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth. I forget which psalm/ book this comes from, but it is used in Walton's Balshazzar's Feast and reflects the hopelessness of the Jews from their homeland.

Two novellas that are presented as ABAB fashion. Initially, implying to the reader that they will connect, they actually nev
Aug 19, 2017 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
I clearly don't have the intellectual capacity to unpack a Faulkner novel, even one as relatively story-driven as "The Wild Palms". Three things are always going through my head: 1.) What the hell is happening? 2.) Why am I reading this? and 3.) This paragraph goes on forever. But part of this is kind of thrilling, in a masochistic way, I suppose. And "The Wild Palms" is no exception. There are botched abortions, Polish miners, pottery studios, a boat, prisons, floods, snakes and cigarettes, so ...more
Mar 14, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Difficult and intriguing. There is art here.
Mar 24, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"Between grief and nothing I will take grief."
Ignė Sutemos
Tai tas pats, kaip sukti galvą dėl to, kad reikia išsimaudyti, nes vonioje netrukus išjungs vandenį
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William Cuthbert Faulkner was a Nobel Prize-winning American novelist and short story writer. One of the most influential writers of the twentieth century, his reputation is based mostly on his novels, novellas, and short stories. He was also a published poet and an occasional screenwriter.

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